Actually…might have been here that you lost me.
You try to trace back to Adam as the father of all who trust in God. But God seems to be okay with saying Abraham is the father of all who trust in God.
Your reason for this being of such importance to you is because you want to show that the renowned men of old/giants of roughly 10 feet tall and over/nephilim are…what? Sons of men who never trusted God, who we call sons of God because they DID trust God…? So did they trust God or did they not trust God. I get too confused. I do see that your goal is to prove that it was just men and women and that there was no hybrid race and that it was just normal men and women who created these men of renown/giants such as Goliath.
But I kind of see an odd (and I see it vaguely but do see it) connection, or repeat to come, where satan actually has planned to repeat the…idea of children from him/nephilim but while also trying to fix what failed in his plan. Like making these hybrid “children” stronger than to be killed by one stone to the forehead, so that for 5 months men will seek to die but will be unable to. I can in no way believe that God decides to cause tormented men to be unable to die for 5 months to extend their torment so that even though they seek death, try to kill themselves, they can’t. That’s not God.
Anyway, these are my thoughts. I don’t say, “this is absolutely how it will happen you Idjit!“ I don’t even seek to convince anyone I’m right. How could I do that when I see it so vaguely? I just present my ideas based on what I’ve read. I don’t think it’s one of the most crucial aspects or things to our continued trust.
Thats not my only thought on it, it’s just the only one I care to share right now.
Firstly sbg, thank you for your confidence. I think many of us try and put the puzzle together by adding a bit of our own imagination/guesswork, me included. One of the things that has crossed my mind and I think it's plausible is that the antediluvians were into genetic engineering as they were into engineering the elements (weather and such)
I know it sounds far fetched at first glance, however here is something to consider. Man coming directly from the hand of God had qualities/abilities/intelligence long since faded/lost. This was used in a negative/destructive way. How? they played with the genetics of animals and produced the monsters we today know as Dinosaurs. None of these creatures went into the ark, which I think is noteworthy.
I would like to digress briefly by saying, in general terms, the evolutionary theory works from the assumption that man began as an amoeba and is heading towards Godhead, getting smarter and smarter .....citing the latest technology.
The creation model is the opposite. It says Man, created in the image of God (very smart) is on a downhill slide to self destruction.
It is too easy to assume that the early inhabitants of earth were dumbo's or primitive. What this assumption does is overlay the evolutionary principle onto the creation story.....which I think is in error.
If this is accurate I don't think it unreasonable to see that the antediluvians were capable of stuff unknown to us today or if not unknown are beginning to discover, things like the manipulation of weather and the thermonuclear destruction of our Planet.
I agree with you when you say; quote 'I can in no way believe that God decides to cause tormented men to be unable to die for 5 months to extend their torment so that even though they seek death, try to kill themselves, they can’t. That’s not God.'
God is into life and joy, not torture and death. That's the devils domain. Jesus made that clear......subsequently I find it difficult to accept God was the cause of the flood any more than I can accept God created the Dinosaur monsters......even though Moses (the writer) attributed this to God...the flood ie....and there was much attributed to God which I find questionable. (there is more to be said on this but not now)
The manipulation of genetics no doubt extended even to humans where giants were created....a bit like cattlemen breed prize bulls of massive size to gain the meat advantage. This doesn't need to be technology which involves test tubes and laboratories but simply selective breeding ie, breeding to get the desired qualities. In their case, giants. It's a slower process but they had time, living up to and over 900 years.
Out of curiosity, I would like to touch on your idea that the 'relations' the 'Sons of God' had with the daughters of men were not necessarily that of doing the 'wild thing'. What other option do you propose? .....immaculate conception?
....and like you said, these are my thoughts ......in an attempt to reconcile that which we have limited information on.