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Let me show you how to understand how to teach a verse wrong.

Here is how you do it.


You simply filter the bible through a carnal mind or through cult teaching = AS your theology.

Let me show you how that is done, specifically.

Lets say you are deceived Hyper-Calvinist.
This means your mind is under the direct influence and ultimate control of John Calvin's biblical interpretations., theologically speaking.

If You are a Catholic, then your mind is under the control of the "cult of Mary" doctrine., theologically speaking.

If you are a Mormon, a Jehovah's Witness, a Berean, a Charismatic.......etc, ect, then THEY have taken your mind into their interpretation of the bible, and spirituality, and it comes out of your mouth, and out of your posts, and Threads.

So when a denomination that is not a student of the apostle Paul, has your mind filled with THEIR stuff, then their stuff is your belief system.
That is how DECEPTION functions, theologically speaking.

Its like this reader....... you are a product of your Teacher....always, so, if your teacher is "doctrines of devils", and not the Grace of God, then you are in a Theological mess.

Hebrews 13:9

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Now let me give you an example of how to teach a verse wrong, vs, how to teach it right.

If you are a John Calvinist.....and they are LEGION..... you will believe that everything is pre-destined and predetermined, because John Calvin has your mind under his theological control, and therefore you have his theology as your ROOT Theology.
You are telling the truth when you say you are a "Calvinist'.
Trouble is.... you are supposed to be a CHRISTIAN, and they are not the same.
Thats a fact.

So, Mr and Mrs John Calvinist.....you will read this....in the Psalms....>""""A good man's steps are ordered by the Lord"""".
And then John Calvin's theology that controls how you interpret the bible, will tell you.... "every thing a good person does, is not their free will choice, but it is God causing them to do it all".

See that? That is John Calvin twisting the verse and the bible into his heretically insane idea that God causes everything you do, and you have no free will.
Zero.
Does not exist.

Now, let me show you how a student of Paul, a real bible believer, not under the influence of the ultra heretic John Calvin, will "rightly divide" that verse, using other verses, as this is how you do it. = You "compare scripture with scripture", "studying to show yourself approved", using "discernment", by the Spirit of God", which will show you the LIGHT of Revelation that is found in the verse.

Look...

"A good man's steps are ordered by the Lord".

How?

"and thine EAR shall hear a word behind you, saying THIS is the way, walk in it, when you turn to the right and to the left".

Paraphrase, "the Word of God, by God's Holy Spirit, will keep you on the righteous path, and not let you get off of it"

And again..

"the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the perfect, shall direct their way"..

Paraphrase...."Knowing the truth, and understanding what is Right, what is Holy, and What God expects, will show you what NOT To do"

And again..

"Tho shall guide me with thy counsel".

That is the Holy Spirit, and the word of God when its rightly divided. = Leading you.


and 2 more...

"I will make darkness........light before you"

That is the word of God and the Holy Spirit doing that.

"In all your ways acknowledge God, and He shall direct your path".

That is submission to the truth that is the word of God, and its a fully committed life that is God owned and God operated, because you are giving yourself to God by choice, daily, constantly...always.

Now, did you notice that what LEADS you along the way of Truth, along the path of Righteousness, ... as your walk of faith and discipleship, ....is the word of God and the Spirit of God.
Notice that you are being LEAD......... not being FORCED.
You are being GUIDED, Lead, reminded... not forced.

You are never made to do it. You are guided into it.
You are shown, led, guided............but never forced.
You always have freewill to do what is right, as well as what is wrong.

Now....do you see how a cult teacher, vs, Paul , teaches what "ordered steps" actually means for a true believer?
 
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Let me show you how to understand how to teach a verse wrong.

Here is how you do it.


You simply filter the bible through a carnal mind or through cult teaching = AS your theology.

Let me show you how that is done, specifically.

Lets say you are deceived Hyper-Calvinist.
This means your mind is under the direct influence and ultimate control of John Calvin's biblical interpretations., theologically speaking.

If You are a Catholic, then your mind is under the control of the "cult of Mary" doctrine., theologically speaking.

If you are a Mormon, a Jehovah's Witness, a Berean, a Charismatic.......etc, ect, then THEY have taken your mind into their interpretation of the bible, and spirituality, and it comes out of your mouth, and out of your posts, and Threads.

So when a denomination that is not a student of the apostle Paul, has your mind filled with THEIR stuff, then their stuff is your belief system.
That is how DECEPTION function, theologically speaking.

Its like this reader....... you are a product of your Teacher....always, so, if your teacher is "doctrines of devils", and not the Grace of God, them you are in a Theological mess.

Hebrews 13:9

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Now let me give you an example of how to teach a verse wrong, vs, how to teach it right.

If you are a John Calvinist.....and they are LEGION..... you will believe that everything is pre-destined and predetermined, because John Calvin has your mind under his theological control, and therefore you have his theology as your ROOT Theology.
You are telling the truth when you say you are a "Calvinist'.
Trouble is.... you are supposed to be a CHRISTIAN, and they are not the same.
Thats a fact.

So, Mr and Mrs John Calvinist.....you will read this....in the Psalms....>""""A good man's steps are ordered by the Lord"""".
And then John Calvin's theology that controls how you interpret the bible, will tell you.... "every thing a good person does, is not their free will choice, but it is God causing them to do it all".

See that? That is John Calvin twisting the verse and the bible into his heretically insane idea that God causes everything you do, and you have no free will.
Zero.
Does not exist.

Now, let me show you how a student of Paul, a real bible believer, not under the influence of the ultra heretic John Calvin, will "rightly divide" that verse, using other verses, as this is how you do it. = You "compare scripture with scripture", "studying to show yourself approved", using "discernment", by the Spirit of God", which will show you the LIGHT of Revelation that is found in the verse.

Look...

"A good man's steps are ordered by the Lord".

How?

"and thine EAR shall hear a word behind you, saying THIS is the way, walk in it, when you turn to the right and to the left".

Paraphrase, "the Word of God, by God's Holy Spirit, will keep you on the righteous path, and not let you get off of it"

And again..

"the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the perfect, shall direct their way"..

Paraphrase...."Knowing the truth, and understanding what is Right, what is Holy, and What God expects, will show you what NOT To do"

And again..

"Tho shall guide me with thy counsel".

That is the Holy Spirit, and the word of God when its rightly divided.


and 2 more...

"I will make darkness........light before you"

That is the word of God and the Holy Spirit doing that.

"In all your ways acknowledge God, and He shall direct they path".

That is submission to the truth that is the word of God, and its a fully committed life that is God owned and God operated, because you have giving yourself to God.

Now, did you notice that what LEADS you along the way of Truth, along the path of Righteousness, ... as your walk of faith and discipleship, ....is the word of God and the Spirit of God.
Notice that you are being LEAD......... not being FORCED.
You are being GUIDED, Lead, reminded... not forced.

You are never made to do it. You are guided into it.
You are shown, led, guided............but never forced.
You always have freewill to do what is right, as well as what is wrong.

Now....do you see how a cult teacher, vs, Paul , teaches what "ordered steps" actually means for a true believer?

Behold, the problem with those who still live with a carnal mind is they want to be able to sin and not be condemned to hell because they have found they have no power over sin, so they don't believe by their EXPERIENCE that there is any. Some denominations do not even teach on the Holy Spirit. That can either be Calvinist or Arminialist. Both believe 1 John 1:8 is about them and for them. At least an Arminialist keeps repenting. A Calvinist may if they are not hyper.
 

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Behold, the problem with those who still live with a carnal mind is they want to be able to sin and not be condemned to hell

Living in a carnal mind, or not, has nothing to do with why a person goes to hell.
Here is why they go to hell.

John 3:36

There is no other reason.
Its just THAT.

So, you are again teaching that "works" of some kind...... is how you go to heaven.
Its not.
Its not by works of righteousness, but according to Gods' MERCY, that you go to heaven.
So God's Mercy is Christ on the Cross.
The END.
THAT it. there is no other WAY THERE.... John 14:6

1stCenturyLady, .....= You alway make God's mercy, your self effort, as that is Legalism.
"well behold, as long as i live right, ....>I can make it to heaven.
A.) Absolutely not.

Here is why you go to heaven..

Jesus said....."You must be BORN AGAIN"

See that?
Thats it.


Your Legalism always tries to avoid this Grace of God.... and put all the responsibility for going to Heave on the person.
You should not do that, as God doesn't do that.
God put Jesus on the CROSS as the only reason you will go to heaven.
John 14:6
God puts all the responsibility for why you go to heaven on The Cross of Christ, AS the only reason, = and our God accepted Faith in that Cross of Christ, as our eternal Justification.
 

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Living in a carnal mind, or not, has nothing to do with why a person goes to hell.
Here is why they go to hell.

John 3:36

There is no other reason.
Its just THAT.

So, you are again teaching that "works" of some kind...... is how you go to heaven.
Its not.
Its not by works of righteousness, but according to Gods' MERCY, that you go to heaven.
So God's Mercy is Christ on the Cross.
The END.
THAT it. there is no other WAY THERE.... John 14:6

1stCenturyLady, .....= You alway make God's mercy, your self effort, as that is Legalism.
"well behold, as long as i live right, ....>I can make it to heaven.
A.) Absolutely not.

Here is why you go to heaven..

Jesus said....."You must be BORN AGAIN"

See that?
Thats it.


Your Legalism always tries to avoid this Grace of God.... and put all the responsibility for going to Heave on the person.
You should not do that, as God doesn't do that.
God put Jesus on the CROSS as the only reason you will go to heaven.
John 14:6
God puts all the responsibility for why you go to heaven on The Cross of Christ, AS the only reason, = and our God accepted Faith in that Cross of Christ, as our eternal Justification.

You didn't understand. If we still have a carnal mind then we haven't been born again, and aren't even taught about the Holy Spirit, let alone His power to free us from sin, the number one reason humans will go to the lake of fire and be consumed. So not being born again and still having a carnal mind are the same.

No one who has been born again still has a carnal mind. Therefore, no one with a carnal mind has been born again.
 
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You didn't understand. If we still have a carnal mind then we haven't been born again,



Open your bible., and then maybe your understanding will follow, 1stCenturyLady
Read , beginning with Chapter one, in Galatians.
Notice that they are born again, but some are "fallen from Grace',.."Bewitched". "in the Flesh", = the carnal mind.
They are DECEIVED, some of them.... yet born again.

Then turn over to the Corinthians and read it all. 1 and 2nd.
These are born again, also, most.
Notice that Paul says they are CARNAL. and do not have the mind of Christ.
Notice that Paul tells them that they dont even understand that they are the "temple of the Holy Spirit".
Notice the Corinthian Church boy who is having sexual relations with his Dad's new wife.
Paul had to tell this Corinthian CHURCH< to get him OUT, (the boy) as they had no spiritual understanding to even do it.
Notice that later Paul let this fornicating boy back into the Church.
= "carnal minded "babe in Christ"., yet BORN AGAIN.....they were.
They are the worst born again Christians in the entire New Testament.
They are Charismatic, and are chasing "gifts" and "spiritual power", and have NONE.
Carnal Babies want gifts.
 

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Open your bible., and then maybe your understanding will follow, 1stCenturyLady
Read , beginning with Chapter one, in Galatians.
Notice that they are born again, but some are "fallen from Grace',.."Bewitched". "in the Flesh", = the carnal mind.
They are DECEIVED, some of them.... yet born again.

Then turn over to the Corinthians and read it all. 1 and 2nd.
These are born again, also, most.
Notice that Paul says they are CARNAL. and do not have the mind of Christ.
Notice that Paul tells them that they dont even understand that they are the "temple of the Holy Spirit".
Notice the Corinthian Church boy who is having sexual relations with his Dad's new wife.
Paul had to tell this Corinthian CHURCH< to get him OUT, (the boy) as they had no spiritual understanding to even do it.
Notice that later Paul let this fornicating boy back into the Church.
= "carnal minded "babe in Christ"., yet BORN AGAIN.....they were.
They are the worst born again Christians in the entire New Testament.
They are Charismatic, and are chasing "gifts" and "spiritual power", and have NONE.
Carnal Babies want gifts.

Paul knew that many of the people were not growing. Those who have been born again KEEP THEMSELVES and STAY PURE. You must believe in another false doctrine known as OSAS. So look at the title of this OP. Are you guilty too?

Carnal babies know nothing about gifts, because they have never been taught the New Covenant nor the Holy Spirit. The best gift is power over sin. The gifts of the Spirit are given to those who stay pure. It is impossible to stay pure without the Holy Spirit. Others without gifts, probably teach carnality, not holiness, thus the reason is obvious why they mock the gifts of the Spirit and praise themselves for living without them.
 
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Paul knew that many of the people were not growing. Those who have been born again KEEP THEMSELVES and STAY PURE. You must believe in another false doctrine known as OSAS. So look at the title of this OP. Are you guilty too?

I never mention OSAS.
You are the Legalist who is obsessed with OSAS and trying to work your way into heaven.
You never give the Cross of Christ the honor it deserves for dealing with all your sin.
Is that because you are trying to confess them all away?
You can give that up, as its useless.
Trust in Christ, instead., as He's the "sin bearer".

You might now write a few words about the Cross of Christ .. now that i pointed this out to you., and then you'll be right back to kicking the same dead horse of "you must DO THIS", that is actually anti-Cross theology.

As for me, im not working to get to heaven.
Not one day, not one second.
Why?
Because Christ did it already, for me, and God gave this that Christ has completed for me...

"The Gift of Salvation"
"The Gift of Righteousness"
 

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I never mention OSAS.
You are the Legalist who is obsessed with OSAS and trying to work your way into heaven.
You never give the Cross of Christ the honor it deserves for dealing with all your sin.
Is that because you are trying to confess them all away?
You can give that up, as its useless.
Trust in Christ, instead., as He's the "sin bearer".

You might now write a few words about the Cross of Christ .. now that i pointed this out to you., and then you'll be right back to kicking the same dead horse of "you must DO THIS", that is actually anti-Cross theology.

As for me, im not working to get to heaven.
Not one day, not one second.
Why?
Because Christ did it already, for me, and God gave this that Christ has completed for me...

"The Gift of Salvation"
"The Gift of Righteousness"
If you put working your way to heaven with keeping ourselves pure, then you are a false teacher. You don't know the scriptural meaning of "works." It is important to make your election SURE so that you will never stumble. Then your entrance to heaven is assured. If you believe the cross allows you to sin your way into heaven that is just sad.

STOP TEACHING THE HERESY THAT THE CROSS MAKES IT ALRIGHT TO SIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Romans 6: 1-2 "What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? 2 Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in it?"

Romans 6:15-16 "What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! 16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?"

2 Peter 1:10-11 "Therefore, brethren, be even more diligent to make your call and election sure, for if you do these things you will never stumble; 11 for so an entrance will be supplied to you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
 
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If you put working your way to heaven with keeping ourselves pure, then you are a false teacher.

Its the Blood of Jesus that keeps you "pure"., and there is your salvation found.

You teach that you keep yourself pure, and that denies the Cross and the blood of Jesus.

You're anti Grace self righteousness Gospel that you teach, post, thread, and believe, proves you are a deceiver, 1stCentury Lady, who teaches self righteous WORKS , in place of God's Grace as "the GIFT of Salvation" and "the GIFT of Righteousness".
You are this one... Luke 11:35
You are this... Galatians 1:8

Now listen.

When a person does not believe that Jesus Keeps them saved, then their faith is not in Christ.
That is you.
Your faith is broken, its gone., and you have no business on a forum trying to pretend you are teacher, when your faith is in your own SELF to "Try to be pure".
See that?
That is SELF Righteousness, and that is Anti-Cross.
See yourself yet?
That's your Gospel, and its cursed.

= Galatians 1:8
 
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You teach that you keep yourself pure, and that denies the Cross and the blood of Jesus.
Anyone who follows Behold read these scriptures and open your eyes and spirit. Don't be fooled by false teachings of the blood and cross of Jesus covers your sins, and to obey God is "works" and not necessary. Beware of doctrines of demons to send you to hell. To anyone who is spiritual and not carnal the true teachings are obvious, and the doctrines of demons are too. But if you are carnal with itching ears, you'll want a teacher such as Behold to tell you what you'd like to be true. But BEWARE!

It is God who is the Author and Finisher of our faith, but He has given us free will. Unless you are willfully ignorant of the words of SCRIPTURE, God tells us we have the power to present ourselves to either God and His righteousness, or to sin and the devil. Our choice. You do not teach the true meaning of the cross and the blood of Jesus. You turn the grace of God into lasciviousness! A false doctrine of demons!)

Romans 6:15-16 15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! 16 Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness? (Obedience is NOT WORKS. You are forever learning, but never coming to the knowledge of the truth 2 Timothy 3:7). Proverbs 1:7

1 John 3:3 and 1 John 5:18 also shows that WE are responsible for keeping ourselves pure. But you don't believe these SCRIPTURES.

1 John 3:3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
1 John 5:18 We know that whoever is born of God does not sin; but he who has been born of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him.

1 Thessalonians 5:19 warns US - Do not quench the Spirit - meaning that is within our own will. But you don't believe this warning.

Doing the above is NOT WORKS. Only a false teacher says otherwise, and is never curious what "works" really means. (Hint: Circumcision, feast days, sabbaths, meats - all letters of the law without the Spirit. Walking in the Spirit, on the other hand, is obedience to His leading through our conscience.)
 
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Anyone who follows Behold read these scriptures and open your eyes and spirit.

Noone ""follows""" me here.... tho Many read me and God bless them ,..... and i always tell them to follow Paul., as He tells us to do.
We follow HIS example and we study HIS doctrine.
If not, what has happened to you 1stCenturyLady , will happen to them.
They will become deceived, and rant their deceptions, same as you.

Also.. Your verses you posted didn't open your eyes, yet....., 1stCenturyLady.
So, why dont you let go of your self righteousness that is driving you to try to contradict the Grace of God, in your posts.
You "Feel" that you are led of the Spirit of God, to come to my Threads and try to teach against the Grace of God.
But anyone who reads your deception, notices that you do not give God or Christ credit for Salvation.
And when you pretend that you do, you will then make certain that you teach some form of SELF EFFORT to maintain what God has give through Christ as a FREE GIFT.

What you do is name God and Christ as the author of Salvation, and then you run to your SELF EFFORT to try to be saved and stay saved.
And you would inflict this cross denying heresy on anyone who will listen to your wild eyed circular rants.
Ive pointed this out to you, for 20+ months and you are just as devoted to anti-cross self saving theological deception, as you were when you were falsely accusing me of being a "Gnostic", and not even able to quote a verse that i wrote that suggests it.
You are very dishonest.
You need deliverance.
And Based on your posts, you are deeply deceived, and will remain so, as your pride will not allow you to even try to understand why your faith is not in Christ to keep you saved.

Your faith is broken, and your teaching is anti-cross pretending to be led of the HolySpirit.
 
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1 John 3:3 And everyone who has this hope in Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.
This verse is not explaining that you can keep yourself pure, to try to stay saved, as you teach it.

This verse is definitely telling believers to "walk in the light as Jesus is in the light", and in that way, we "purifies himself". 'even as he is pure".
Where is this found?
Its found "in Christ".
And that is why the NT teaches that.....>"As Christ IS, so are the born again IN THIS WORLD".
There is your Purification......its right there.
And this is not the same as trying to be sinless, to try to stay saved as heretics teach....., as Jesus has become sin for the born again, and God has redeemed all sin from the born again, through the Cross of Christ.

And here is the worst part of your heresy.. its that you twist verses to try to prove that its not the Blood of Jesus that God has provided as our sanctification and our righteousness.......... but you would have weak believers, trying to keep themselves saved, and THAT can't be done.
You cant save yourself and you can't keep yourself saved. If you could, then NO CROSS IS NECESSARY and Jesus could have stayed in Heaven as the Bread and the Word.

Your deceived teaching is a vivid insult to the Cross, and the Blood of Jesus, and the Grace of God.
Thats a fact.
 

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Noone ""follows""" me here.... tho Many read me and God bless them ,..... and i always tell them to follow Paul., as He tells us to do.
We follow HIS example and we study HIS doctrine.
If not, what has happened to you 1stCenturyLady , will happen to them.
They will become deceived, and rant their deceptions, same as you.

Also.. Your verses you posted didn't open your eyes, yet....., 1stCenturyLady.
So, why dont you let go of your self righteousness that is driving you to try to contradict the Grace of God, in your posts.
You "Feel" that you are led of the Spirit of God, to come to my Threads and try to teach against the Grace of God.
But anyone who reads your deception, notices that you do not give God or Christ credit for Salvation.
And when you pretend that you do, you will then make certain that you teach some form of SELF EFFORT to maintain what God has give through Christ as a FREE GIFT.

What you do is name God and Christ as the author of Salvation, and then you run to your SELF EFFORT to try to be saved and stay saved.
And you would inflict this cross denying heresy on anyone who will listen to your wild eyed circular rants.
Ive pointed this out to you, for 20+ months and you are just as devoted to anti-cross self saving theological deception, as you were when you were falsely accusing me of being a "Gnostic", and not even able to quote a verse that i wrote that suggests it.
You are very dishonest.
You need deliverance.
And Based on your posts, you are deeply deceived, and will remain so, as your pride will not allow you to even try to understand why your faith is not in Christ to keep you saved.

Your faith is broken, and your teaching is anti-cross pretending to be led of the HolySpirit.

You say I don't believe in the cross and blood of Jesus. But I do very much. I teach Romans 6:6-16.

What do you teach about them and how they affect our sin? Does the blood cause the sins we keep committing to not be sin? That is what you seem to teach. And that is heresy. Use scripture if you have any that you are accurate on what they mean. Let's see.
 
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This verse is not explaining that you can keep yourself pure, to try to stay saved, as you teach it.

This verse is definitely telling believers to "walk in the light as Jesus is in the light", and in that way, we "purifies himself". 'even as he is pure".
Where is this found?
Its found "in Christ".
And that is why the NT teaches that.....>"As Christ IS, so are the born again IN THIS WORLD".
There is your Purification......its right there.
And this is not the same as trying to be sinless, to try to stay saved as heretics teach....., as Jesus has become sin for the born again, and God has redeemed all sin from the born again, through the Cross of Christ.

And here is the worst part of your heresy.. its that you twist verses to try to prove that its not the Blood of Jesus that God has provided as our sanctification and our righteousness.......... but you would have weak believers, trying to keep themselves saved, and THAT can't be done.
You cant save yourself and you can't keep yourself saved. If you could, then NO CROSS IS NECESSARY and Jesus could have stayed in Heaven as the Bread and the Word.

Your deceived teaching is a vivid insult to the Cross, and the Blood of Jesus, and the Grace of God.
Thats a fact.

I already said Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith, so, of course, it is through Him, but it is WE who yield ourselves to the Spirit rather than quenching Him. Understand????
 
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You say I don't believe in the cross and blood of Jesus.

You lied again.
= Again.

I didnt say you dont believe in it, i said you are a deeply deceived person, who teaches AGAINST the Blood of Jesus and the Grace of God.
And you'll do it again,
You will run to your little commentaries and try to figure out what to say next., and what will that be?
It'll be you posting bible verses that you will twist, as your teachers twisted them.... to try to falsely teach that a person can lose their salvation.
Why will you do that? Because you are led to do it, by that feeling you have, that fleshly compulsion you can't resist.... that drives you to come and do it again on this forum.

So, as i told you 20 months ago... your faith is broken.
You do not believe that Jesus The Lord, keeps you saved by His Cross and by His Blood and Death.
You believe and teach that the person has to "purify" and so forth, so that they keep themselves saved.
And you will teach the lie that a person who isn't "perfect", but commits some works of the flesh, isn't really saved.

So, you do not give Christ credit for the Blood Atonement.
If you did, you would not teach that self effort is required to be saved or stay saved.
 

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I already said Jesus is the Author and Finisher of our faith,

And then you spit on your own verse by teaching that the self effort to "purifiy" is required or salvation can be lost.

See, typical of a dark light,...Luke 11:35..... all your false teaching and all your verse twisting, leads to "self effort to try to stay saved" and "salvation can be lost".
Those are your only 2 Theologies., as that is all any LEGALIST can think about or worry about or try to PROVE.
That's all you have, even tho on occasion you'll post your "divine nature" that you love to post, taken from Peter's epistles.
Did you want to post that one today?
Its about time, isn't it?
Check your watch....

Now, come and tell us that you dont believe you can lose your salvation, if you feel that urge to lie again.

Go right ahead, as you are the person that HATES this OSAS concept that obsesses you.. remember?
Want me to quote you?
 
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You say I don't believe in the cross and blood of Jesus. But I do very much. I teach Romans 6:6-16.

What do you teach about them and how they affect our sin?


The reason that Paul told you in Romans 4:8 that God does not charge SIN to the BORN AGAIN...

is because..

"Jesus is the ONE TIME Eternal SACRIFICE for all sin".

How?

"God made Jesus to be SIN FOR US".

That's how.

Jesus is our "sin bearer", and the born again are eternally become = the "Righteousness of GOD, in Christ".

That is the Divine Exchange that happens to a sinner when they Give God their FAITH in Christ.

= "faith is COUNTED BY GOD, as Righteousness".

This is why 2 Corinthians 5:19, explains that sin is gone, because Christ has dealt with it all, 2000 yrs ago on THE CROSS., which is HOW God has reconciled the world to Himself, John 3:16 & John 3:17= per each person, once they give God their FAITH.

And THAT is the "message of reconciliation" that is the Gospel of the Grace of God that you have never yet understood, nor do you care to understand it.
 
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Let me show you how to understand how to teach a verse wrong.

Here is how you do it.


You simply filter the bible through a carnal mind or through cult teaching = AS your theology.

Let me show you how that is done, specifically.

Lets say you are deceived Hyper-Calvinist.
This means your mind is under the direct influence and ultimate control of John Calvin's biblical interpretations., theologically speaking.

If You are a Catholic, then your mind is under the control of the "cult of Mary" doctrine., theologically speaking.

If you are a Mormon, a Jehovah's Witness, a Berean, a Charismatic.......etc, ect, then THEY have taken your mind into their interpretation of the bible, and spirituality, and it comes out of your mouth, and out of your posts, and Threads.

So when a denomination that is not a student of the apostle Paul, has your mind filled with THEIR stuff, then their stuff is your belief system.
That is how DECEPTION functions, theologically speaking.

Its like this reader....... you are a product of your Teacher....always, so, if your teacher is "doctrines of devils", and not the Grace of God, then you are in a Theological mess.

Hebrews 13:9

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Now let me give you an example of how to teach a verse wrong, vs, how to teach it right.

If you are a John Calvinist.....and they are LEGION..... you will believe that everything is pre-destined and predetermined, because John Calvin has your mind under his theological control, and therefore you have his theology as your ROOT Theology.
You are telling the truth when you say you are a "Calvinist'.
Trouble is.... you are supposed to be a CHRISTIAN, and they are not the same.
Thats a fact.

So, Mr and Mrs John Calvinist.....you will read this....in the Psalms....>""""A good man's steps are ordered by the Lord"""".
And then John Calvin's theology that controls how you interpret the bible, will tell you.... "every thing a good person does, is not their free will choice, but it is God causing them to do it all".

See that? That is John Calvin twisting the verse and the bible into his heretically insane idea that God causes everything you do, and you have no free will.
Zero.
Does not exist.

Now, let me show you how a student of Paul, a real bible believer, not under the influence of the ultra heretic John Calvin, will "rightly divide" that verse, using other verses, as this is how you do it. = You "compare scripture with scripture", "studying to show yourself approved", using "discernment", by the Spirit of God", which will show you the LIGHT of Revelation that is found in the verse.

Look...

"A good man's steps are ordered by the Lord".

How?

"and thine EAR shall hear a word behind you, saying THIS is the way, walk in it, when you turn to the right and to the left".

Paraphrase, "the Word of God, by God's Holy Spirit, will keep you on the righteous path, and not let you get off of it"

And again..

"the RIGHTEOUSNESS of the perfect, shall direct their way"..

Paraphrase...."Knowing the truth, and understanding what is Right, what is Holy, and What God expects, will show you what NOT To do"

And again..

"Tho shall guide me with thy counsel".

That is the Holy Spirit, and the word of God when its rightly divided. = Leading you.


and 2 more...

"I will make darkness........light before you"

That is the word of God and the Holy Spirit doing that.

"In all your ways acknowledge God, and He shall direct your path".

That is submission to the truth that is the word of God, and its a fully committed life that is God owned and God operated, because you are giving yourself to God by choice, daily, constantly...always.

Now, did you notice that what LEADS you along the way of Truth, along the path of Righteousness, ... as your walk of faith and discipleship, ....is the word of God and the Spirit of God.
Notice that you are being LEAD......... not being FORCED.
You are being GUIDED, Lead, reminded... not forced.

You are never made to do it. You are guided into it.
You are shown, led, guided............but never forced.
You always have freewill to do what is right, as well as what is wrong.

Now....do you see how a cult teacher, vs, Paul , teaches what "ordered steps" actually means for a true believer?
Simply teach scriptural untruths is the easiest way. When using Scripture to teach, one can never be wrong. They can only be wrong in their interpretation of what is said.
 

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Simply teach scriptural untruths is the easiest way. When using Scripture to teach, one can never be wrong. They can only be wrong in their interpretation of what is said.

The "wrong interpretation of what the bible said", created the "Cult of Mary".. The Mormon Cult... The Jehovah's Witness cult.... Calvinism, and etc, etc, etc.
 

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PS , never follow those either . Learn the bible and follow that JESUS , loving , aka OBEYING all things HE and later the apostles would teach .
PS , paul in several places makes mention of the old scriptures as being NEEDFUL TO LEARN
so as we do not lust after the evil things they lusted after . Lamb simply LOVE ER WORD OF THE LORD . ER WORD OF GOD .
 
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