Is allowing mass immigration anti-christian?

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Agreed, the main supporters of illegal immigration are godless Democrats and atheists because they think that by blindly "doing good" the universe will like them and they'll be better than Christians.
For example I heard a news report that in one US state (California?) the Dems are going round handing out drugs to homeless bums and junkies!
Also of course they promote GLBT perversion, but the Bible sums them up nicely-
"To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled" (Titus 1:15)

Think we are on the same page.

Do good, is doing that which IS good.
People can be self destructive without the help of the government and the burden compulsion of the public to pay for it.
 
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I'm also not a fan of immigration. But for some people it is a refuge of safety from their country.
This is true . Yet dont you find it rather odd that most of the immigrants fleeing their country
flee it for the very reasons we see the world order liberal agenda doing HERE NOW .
Its gone mad i tell ya . What do YOU think destroyed those countries they are now fleeing .
THE same liberal policies , GOD hating minds , getting set up HERE in this country . TIME to learn CHRIST .
TRUTH is the nations have all tanked and fled FROM GOD . But we have a heavenly kingdom
and we look for it to come whereby GOD is not ashamed to be called our GOD . This ol world will only get worse
But we await the COMING of the KING . one day it shall be a new heavens and new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness .
Let all that draws breath praise the glorious LORD .
 
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Taken,

Barring your miss-mash of horrific syntactical sentence structuring, that was hard to put into order, you are not a TRUE Christian with your propositions mentioned in your post #49, sad indeed.

You have violated so many teachings of Jesus the Christ relative to the poor and starving of His creation with your Devil Speak, that it is truly hard to accept this fact. Therefore, to save you from further embarrassment in front of the membership, I will only give you a few directly inspired by Jesus passages shown below where you are blatantly wrong in your assumptions;

"In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’” (Acts 20:35)


"What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.” (James 2:14-17)

"Only, they asked us to remember the poor, the very thing I was eager to do." (Galatians 2:20)



Taken, It is truly sad to watch you be so unchristian like in a Christian forum, therefore once again, you are guilty of this godly passage: "For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it."

I will pray to Jesus tonight for you to have your Satanic ways removed from your mouth relative to taking care of the poor, you can thank me later.


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Obviously you follow a christ who forced people to be Like him....and his model of charity was to force the people to give him their goods, wealth....
So he could dole it out to whom he qualified as needy.

Don’t know who or what you pray to...but I neither requested or desire you to intrude as a middle-man FOR me. I have a direct prayer line.

Charity is Not about A third party TAKING by coercion and compulsion from one to dole out to an other.
Charity IS about one happily GIVING to an other.

Your accusations and lack of comprehension only reflects on you.
 
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Obviously you follow a christ who forced people to be Like him....and his model of charity was to force the people to give him their goods, wealth....
So he could dole it out to whom he qualified as needy.

Don’t know who or what you pray to...but I neither requested or desire you to intrude as a middle-man FOR me. I have a direct prayer line.

Charity is Not about A third party TAKING by coercion and compulsion from one to dole out to an other.
Charity IS about one happily GIVING to an other.

Your accusations and lack of comprehension only reflects on you.
Its the same mindset judas iscariot had . HE TOO made mention of the poor
just like the redist of wealth liberal elites doo . But mark my words neither judas nor the liberal elites care for the poor .
THEY say this , cause they gonna sit over the world and they gonna heap up that money to themselves .
This social gospel they preach , ITS A LIE FROM HELL taken . A LIE FROM HELL . DONT EVER FOLLOW IT .
We give to the poor on our own . THIS GOVT is GOD hating monster who only desires
to have a system by which rich elites and ungodly cooperations shall rule . THEY DONT care for the poor . THEY LIE
Watch what happens once this so called system is in place . THE POOR will soon see they never cared one bit for them .
THEY USED THEM and others for one purpose . TO GET THE KINGDOM THEY DESIRE . IT WONT BE FOR US
it wont be for the poor or the people . IT WILL BE FOR THEM . THESE people are being DECIEVED .
BIG TIME TOO . BIG TIME .
 

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Obviously you follow a christ who forced people to be Like him....and his model of charity was to force the people to give him their goods, wealth....
So he could dole it out to whom he qualified as needy.

Don’t know who or what you pray to...but I neither requested or desire you to intrude as a middle-man FOR me. I have a direct prayer line.

Charity is Not about A third party TAKING by coercion and compulsion from one to dole out to an other.
Charity IS about one happily GIVING to an other.

Your accusations and lack of comprehension only reflects on you.
They probably follow this pope francis or men like him who preach this ungodly social gospel
this ungodly green agenda . WHICH is nothing more than a lie by which these elites
shall fear monger and sway the people into believing . BUT this is nothing more than those who LOVE money and power
simply preaching and using JESUS and taking his teachings out of text to support THEIR OWN BELOVED PIPE DREAM .
We dont need the govts , WE HAVE THE LORD . TRUST IN GOD cause this digital system is fast falling into place
AND SOON enough the very system , the very ideals , the very things they sold the peoples to beleive
WILL SHOW ITS TRUE COLORS . ONCE THAT SYSTEM IS IN PLACE . IF ANYONE and i mean ANYONE
does not conform , does not align too , does not worship its image , THEY WONT BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL .
|DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR . IT SHOULD . so now you know what and where this social gospel
this all inclusive gospel this redist of wealth , this climate change Was and IS LEADING THEM RIGHT TOO . THE BEAST .
THEY BUILD ITS EMPIRE and sadly many sheep are co helpers to it .
 

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Taken,

Barring your miss-mash of horrific syntactical sentence structuring, that was hard to put into order, you are not a TRUE Christian with your propositions mentioned in your post #49, sad indeed.

U in rong plase dis nt grammmer skool n u NT techr %
NT ressponsiblu 4 ur lack of noing order %
U boo hoo, Ned tissu?
 
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They probably follow this pope francis or men like him who preach this ungodly social gospel
this ungodly green agenda . WHICH is nothing more than a lie by which these elites
shall fear monger and sway the people into believing . BUT this is nothing more than those who LOVE money and power
simply preaching and using JESUS and taking his teachings out of text to support THEIR OWN BELOVED PIPE DREAM .
We dont need the govts , WE HAVE THE LORD . TRUST IN GOD cause this digital system is fast falling into place
AND SOON enough the very system , the very ideals , the very things they sold the peoples to beleive
WILL SHOW ITS TRUE COLORS . ONCE THAT SYSTEM IS IN PLACE . IF ANYONE and i mean ANYONE
does not conform , does not align too , does not worship its image , THEY WONT BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL .
|DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR . IT SHOULD . so now you know what and where this social gospel
this all inclusive gospel this redist of wealth , this climate change Was and IS LEADING THEM RIGHT TOO . THE BEAST .
THEY BUILD ITS EMPIRE and sadly many sheep are co helpers to it .

It called using Jesus’ name for their glory.

Matt 7:
[22] Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
 
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This is true . Yet dont you find it rather odd that most of the immigrants fleeing their country
flee it for the very reasons we see the world order liberal agenda doing HERE NOW .
Its gone mad i tell ya . What do YOU think destroyed those countries they are now fleeing .
THE same liberal policies , GOD hating minds , getting set up HERE in this country . TIME to learn CHRIST .
TRUTH is the nations have all tanked and fled FROM GOD . But we have a heavenly kingdom
and we look for it to come whereby GOD is not ashamed to be called our GOD . This ol world will only get worse
But we await the COMING of the KING . one day it shall be a new heavens and new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness .
Let all that draws breath praise the glorious LORD .
Yet don't you find it rather odd that most of the immigrants coming to this country for the very reasons we see the liberal agenda making this the most desirable place to live? Why else would they risk everything? Because of jerks like Greg Abbott and Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump and Kevin McCarthy and ..? Liberals are compassionate and want others to share in our blessings.
 

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They probably follow this pope francis or men like him who preach this ungodly social gospel
this ungodly green agenda . WHICH is nothing more than a lie by which these elites
shall fear monger and sway the people into believing . BUT this is nothing more than those who LOVE money and power
simply preaching and using JESUS and taking his teachings out of text to support THEIR OWN BELOVED PIPE DREAM .
We dont need the govts , WE HAVE THE LORD . TRUST IN GOD cause this digital system is fast falling into place
AND SOON enough the very system , the very ideals , the very things they sold the peoples to beleive
WILL SHOW ITS TRUE COLORS . ONCE THAT SYSTEM IS IN PLACE . IF ANYONE and i mean ANYONE
does not conform , does not align too , does not worship its image , THEY WONT BE ABLE TO BUY OR SELL .
|DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR . IT SHOULD . so now you know what and where this social gospel
this all inclusive gospel this redist of wealth , this climate change Was and IS LEADING THEM RIGHT TOO . THE BEAST .
THEY BUILD ITS EMPIRE and sadly many sheep are co helpers to it .
:jest::jest::jest:
 

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Dropship,

1. YOUR UNSUPPORTED QUOTE: "Agreed, the main supporters of illegal immigration are godless Democrats and atheists because they think that by blindly "doing good" the universe will like them and they'll be better than Christians."
Support your claim above with actual EVIDENCE, instead of "hearsay!"

2. YOUR UNSUPPORTED QUOTE: "For example I heard a news report that in one US state (California?) the Dems are going round handing out drugs to homeless bums and junkies!
Support your claim above with actual EVIDENCE, instead of "hearsay!"

3. YOUR UNSUPPORTED QUOTE: "Also of course they promote GLBT perversion ....."
Support your claim above with actual EVIDENCE, instead of "hearsay!"

Here ya go mate..:)-

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And as for the promotion of illegal immigrants and GLBT's, just look around, you can bet your bottom dollar it ain't Christians who are promoting it..:)
 
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Yes he [God] is tuff and strong, perfectly strong. But he is also loving and forgiving I think.

Yes but ONLY if sinners repent and ASK his forgiveness, but a lot of them don't, they just carry on trudging blindly down here..:)

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I've volunteered at a evangelistic crisis pregnancy center for a year. We had immigrants from all over the world coming in for our services. Many were open to hearing the gospel and gave gifts to the volunteers return. Many have received Jesus. They weren't all these drug pushing lazy fiends at all.


I respect that we have laws for immigration. Countries have a right to secure borders. But I don't agree with casting all immigrants as these hopeless lazy scum or saying anyone who wants to help them are "liberal wusses" or anything like that.
 

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Yes but ONLY if sinners repent and ASK his forgiveness, but a lot of them don't, they just carry on trudging blindly down here..:)

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Actually there are a few biblical examples where they didn't repent but went to heaven anyways or were forgiven. One prime example is the thief on the cross. Another example is the woman that was a bad sinner that washed Jesus feet with her tears. And yet another example is the parable of the Tax Collector and Pharisee. The tax collector knew he was a sinner and asked for mercy and he went away justified. The Pharisee on the other hand liked pointing out that the Tax Collector was a sinner, he left less justified or not at all.

You sound like you follow a works based salvation. But that is not entirely biblical. And while it is wise not to sin, we should not be judgmental of others that do. That can ruin our salvation. And that is what Jesus teaches in the bible.
 
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...or saying anyone who wants to help them are "liberal wusses" or anything like that.
If a person wants to immigrate, the only help you can give him or her is to tell them to apply for entry and joining the line of others already waiting in line to legally immigrate. Anything else is helping no one since they learn that breaking the law has no consequences.

The bigger help would be to tell the governments of those countries from where they are coming to get their act together. Which could mean taking military action against countries which do nothing about their drug cartels or hordes of illegals (with a huge percentage of criminals in the mix).

Mexico has had a history of conflict with the USA for over 200 years. Yet none of the border states, and no one in the federal government, got serious about building a serious solid wall 200 years ago, or even 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago. And then Trump goes and builds a fence!

As a result the Mexican drug cartels now control the US border. Think about it. And the fentanyl (and other hard drugs) that are killing thousands are coming right through on a daily basis, because no one has the guts to simply shut down the border and build that wall.

Governor Abbott of Texas should have been deporting all those illegals on a daily basis back to their home countries. Instead he wanted theater by shipping a few northwards and dumping some on Kamala's property, but they will still be a burden on the USA. Biden wanted to sue the governor of Arizona for putting up barriers along the border. Why did that governor not counter-sue Biden for gross violation of the laws of the land? And why isn't Biden being impeached just for this one crime of over 5 million migrant invaders?
 
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If a person wants to immigrate, the only help you can give him or her is to tell them to apply for entry and joining the line of others already waiting in line to legally immigrate. Anything else is helping no one since they learn that breaking the law has no consequences.

The bigger help would be to tell the governments of those countries from where they are coming to get their act together. Which could mean taking military action against countries which do nothing about their drug cartels or hordes of illegals (with a huge percentage of criminals in the mix).

Mexico has had a history of conflict with the USA for over 200 tears. Yet none of the border states, and no one in the federal government, got serious about building a serious solid wall 200 years ago, or even 100 years ago, or even 50 years ago. And then Trump goes and builds a fence!

As a result the Mexican drug cartels now control the US border. Think about it. And the fentanyl (and other hard drugs) that are killing thousands are coming right through on a daily basis, because no one has the guts to simply shut down the border and build that wall.

Governor Abbott of Texas should have been deporting all those illegals on a daily basis back to their home countries. Instead he wanted theater by shipping a few northwards and dumping some on Kamala's property, but they will still be a burden on the USA. Biden wanted to sue the governor of Arizona for putting up barriers along the border. Why did that governor not counter-sue Biden for gross violation of the laws of the land? And why isn't Biden being impeached just for this one crime of over 5 million migrant invaders?
Not all laws are Godly. We live in Rome, with the Romans. And they killed Jesus. The USA is no different. Look how they are pushing homosexuality on us and all their Roman ways. We live in Sodom and Egypt. Wake up. They put women above men, gays above straights, and treat us like slaves. Definately Sodom and Egypt.
 
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Not all laws are Godly.
I did not say all laws are godly. But it is God who recognizes and approves of national borders. See Acts 17. Now here is something which is getting little or no attention:

MLK Day: Illegal Immigration Crushes Opportunities for Black American Men, Civil Rights Commission Finds​


So should illegal Hispanics be encouraged to rob law-abiding black citizens of their jobs and opportunities? This shows that the Democrats deep down hate blacks and simply use them to garner votes. If all black citizens would stop voting for Democrats 100% the Democrats would never have any political standing.
 
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This is true . Yet dont you find it rather odd that most of the immigrants fleeing their country
flee it for the very reasons we see the world order liberal agenda doing HERE NOW .
Its gone mad i tell ya . What do YOU think destroyed those countries they are now fleeing .
THE same liberal policies , GOD hating minds , getting set up HERE in this country . TIME to learn CHRIST .
TRUTH is the nations have all tanked and fled FROM GOD . But we have a heavenly kingdom
and we look for it to come whereby GOD is not ashamed to be called our GOD . This ol world will only get worse
But we await the COMING of the KING . one day it shall be a new heavens and new earth wherein dwelleth righteousness .
Let all that draws breath praise the glorious LORD .
I have seen many such immigrants idiots come running from their home land, only to bring with them the very seeds that created the reason for them having to run away from their own home land.

But nowadays we are coming under fire to embrace such morons and our Nation will become a Hell to try and live in as well. because such people demand their ways over us, but I stand up to such calling such trash out ? but then the bastardised Law claims I have no rights to an opinion and comes against me, for the values that made our Nation not like theirs. But our Nations are becoming a abomination and the Hellfire will come because wrong does not make anything right.

Look at it this way your home has a door ! what is that door for ? to keep people out ! and anyone who is under your roof that thinks they can take advantage of you may be shown the door ! but such are like Rats and they will work to drive you out ? one way or another !

The Main stream media only works to promote one side of the issues with such Rats ? Why do the MSM promote a one sided issue ? Because they are Rats as well.

I have seen many people just stick their head in the sand on issues that they find too much to deal with, so they live in denial ! You bring such an issue up and they freeze ? why because they are claim I am making them feel depressed :rolleyes: :kiaora:
Making old mates poor little fantasyland uncomfortable are we ? Oh no ! such has never have had to deal with stark reality day in day out regarding foundations and can not seeking ahead because they never had too !

Am I depressed on the subject, No not at all, because I have to deal with it and be open to the future because I am in business, one can not just walk away or hide from anything, because if you do ! your finished !
But Mr Dodo brains lives in a bubble that is not subjected to reality, they make it up as they go along, like Biden ! Sowing the seed that will not take root ! for clearly he has no idea of the well spring. He has a magic wand ! Fantasyland !

I say our Nations have Rats that are eating away at the foundations upon what created it, not to mention they are making the people Sick and depraved in fact ! that their is no were to go but crashing down and it will crash badly ! It's a mess now and it will only get much worse ! Joh Biden and Co have only worked to destroy the very foundations and no one could be so stupid !

So when I see trash come into my Nation openly disregarding us and our Government openly disregarding us as well, not to mention our opinions are not allowed to be expressed, for they will make another dimwit Law that stands over freedom of speech !

Is this person going to be a positive to the Nation or dead wood or worse.

Our Government are that pathetic that they do not discriminate ! So for ever African who comes 1 to 10 % maybe from a Christian background ! I had one black Christian African point out another black African who was one of the Islamic ones who he was running away from back in Africa.
So why do we let all the radical Islamic trash in ? Because we have people in our Government that are working to cause trouble and they do this 24/7 bring up everything they can to divide the Nation, so it will fail ! Stirring up the possum on race grounds, not to mention being a spastic propping up people to claim they are Black, when they are in fact whiter than me ! and then again on gender the same spastic mob of out right lies is at it again !

I know and worked with Islamic people who I respect better than some of the Trashy Australian dogs we have to deal with.

But we have had some real bad radical Islamic idiots, that the PM should of been kicked out of office because they had a lack of duty of care ! because such had a list of offenses that is no excuse at all to be here and then he takes hostages ! but the MSM cove up the facts ! Public you have no rights to know the truth ! That is how the Government treats you ! like mushrooms.

Not to mention how our SAS are being undermined treatment by the Government and criminal top level dogs who are spastics, inbreeds, who don't know if they are Male of female in fact and ranting and raving about total nonsense and totally undermining the Defence Force, not to mention the same cancer is peddled in the Police Service. Policing is run by dimwits from the top down nowadays and it's the Governments fault, clearly criminal intent is at hand in bastardising all such.

Same for Fire Service, Criminal intent for years working to create the stupid fires that got out of hand, they were warned to take due regard but the Greens agendas dominated over common sense ! They murdered all them people in fact but got off the hook because of our Satanic MSM does not report on the facts and truth !
 
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