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A sickening cutting from one of todays national papers-

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I find it naive and stupid how so-called Christians believe the trite claims of what is Satan's infiltration OF THE CHURCH. I don't know how long that church has been in operation but I would like to know if anyone attended for however many years have found that to be the case, and people are not welcome and unsafe. Until it has been proven that they are a flag is not going to solve the problem.
 

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Love your neighbor as your self.
YES INDEED . SPOT ON RIGHT JIM . YE shall no in way HATE your neighbor
you shall rebuke , CORRECT HIM and not allow SIN UPON HIM . SO STOP HUGGING gays to hell and start correcing
any wicked behavoir . IF YOU LOVE ONE YOU WOULD CORRECT ONE . BUT if you hate one you are guiltly of murder JIM .
OF MURDER and you KNOW a murder has no ETERNAL LIFE IN HIM . SO STOP supporting their sin
by silencing those who are willing to actually correct SIN for their own sake .
 

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YES INDEED . SPOT ON RIGHT JIM . YE shall no in way HATE your neighbor
you shall rebuke , CORRECT HIM and not allow SIN UPON HIM . SO STOP HUGGING gays to hell and start correcing
any wicked behavoir . IF YOU LOVE ONE YOU WOULD CORRECT ONE . BUT if you hate one you are guiltly of murder JIM .
OF MURDER and you KNOW a murder has no ETERNAL LIFE IN HIM . SO STOP supporting their sin
by silencing those who are willing to actually correct SIN for their own sake .
I'm sure you're familiar with the parable of the good Samaritan. Two religious Judeans passed by the man who had been assaulted. The despised Samaritan gave aid to the stricken man, including taking him to safe lodging and paying for any care he may need.

1) Did the Samaritan ask the man about his sexual preferences? No.
2) Was the stricken man a "neighbor" to the two who passed him by? Yes.

So what was wrong? Jesus said that there were two main things people should do in life. 1) Love God and 2) love your neighbor. I have no doubt that you agree with the first, so why do you disagree with the second?

I am not "hugging gays to hell" (as you so crudely put it). I am loving my neighbor as myself, as Jesus commanded. And I am hereby following your instruction: I shall CORRECT my neighbor: YOU. Finally, I agree with your last sentence: if you hate one you are guilty of murder.
 

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I'm sure you're familiar with the parable of the good Samaritan. Two religious Judeans passed by the man who had been assaulted. The despised Samaritan gave aid to the stricken man, including taking him to safe lodging and paying for any care he may need.

1) Did the Samaritan ask the man about his sexual preferences? No.
2) Was the stricken man a "neighbor" to the two who passed him by? Yes.

So what was wrong? Jesus said that there were two main things people should do in life. 1) Love God and 2) love your neighbor. I have no doubt that you agree with the first, so why do you disagree with the second?

I am not "hugging gays to hell" (as you so crudely put it). I am loving my neighbor as myself, as Jesus commanded. And I am hereby following your instruction: I shall CORRECT my neighbor: YOU. Finally, I agree with your last sentence: if you hate one you are guilty of murder.
No one said we cant do good to folks . I would feed any person i saw starving and hungry .
But in the church those in sin must be put out till they do repent . AND THAT IS the way the early church did it . SO we must too .
Instead of bringing rainbow flags into churches , and trying to marry them or approve of their marriage
we need to be correcting this lie . Cause it aint saving them or anyone else .
 
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No one said we cant do good to folks . I would feed any person i saw starving and hungry .
But in the church those in sin must be put out till they do repent . AND THAT IS the way the early church did it . SO we must too .
Instead of bringing rainbow flags into churches , and trying to marry them or approve of their marriage
we need to be correcting this lie . Cause it aint saving them or anyone else .
Perhaps it would be a good idea for a church to do this: proclaim that anyone who sins must leave. If anyone is a homosexual, has committed adultery, cheated on their taxes, prayed to idols (RCC saint figurines), harmed anyone intentionally, gossiped, slandered others, boasted, disobeyed their parents, lied, cheated, or stolen, they must leave the church immediately. How many people would remain? Any?

You are clearly anti-LGBTQ. Why aren't you calling everyone out on other sins?
 

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Perhaps it would be a good idea for a church to do this: proclaim that anyone who sins must leave. If anyone is a homosexual, has committed adultery, cheated on their taxes, prayed to idols (RCC saint figurines), harmed anyone intentionally, gossiped, slandered others, boasted, disobeyed their parents, lied, cheated, or stolen, they must leave the church immediately. How many people would remain? Any?

You are clearly anti-LGBTQ. Why aren't you calling everyone out on other sins?
“If anyone is a homosexual, has committed adultery, cheated on their taxes, prayed to idols (RCC saint figurines), harmed anyone intentionally, gossiped, slandered others, boasted, disobeyed their parents, lied, cheated, or stolen”. Does your Church teach that it’s okay to do these things? I think homosexuals should be welcome at Church but we shouldn’t tell them that it’s okay to continue to practice homosexuality.
 

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Perhaps it would be a good idea for a church to do this: proclaim that anyone who sins must leave. If anyone is a homosexual, has committed adultery, cheated on their taxes, prayed to idols (RCC saint figurines), harmed anyone intentionally, gossiped, slandered others, boasted, disobeyed their parents, lied, cheated, or stolen, they must leave the church immediately. How many people would remain? Any?

You are clearly anti-LGBTQ. Why aren't you calling everyone out on other sins?
If one repents not of their sins but rather sits in justification of said sins , THEN YEAH get them out of the church .
Stop trying to grasp at bits of straw in a hurricane to try and justify wrong evil behavoir .
Rather correct them and not allow sin upon them . LEst ye think your way is wiser than the apostels or CHRIST himself .
CORRECT folks . The first main thing that would have helped ANYONE , however , IS IF the CHURCH leaders
themselves would teach ALL biblical pure and holy doctrine . That alone would have convicted some in error .
And others would probably leave on their own if they refused to repent . NO one is gonna sit
in a place that exposes sin , IF THEY LOVE SIN . they will always find another voice to sit under which AGREES to their sin .
THE MAIN THING should have been leaders simply focusing on all sound doctrine of Christ and the apostels .
Had they done that , churches would have been kept healthy and thriving under GOD and not doctrines of leaven of men gone wrong .
Churches should have been a place for the peoples to grow wise and mature , not rather this place
which through false doctrines and piss poor leadership of men either too afraid or flat out wolves in sheeps clothing
has led leaven right in and filled it fulled up with leaven . TILL NOW
not only do most so called christains not even know what has been lost in Christanity
they too are the lost sitting under the lost and places get only worse and into more darkness they go .
TIME TO BIBLE UP and stop following these hyper radical false love false unity men , and learn CHRIST for ourselves .
THEN folks will see clearly how to pull the speck out of the others eye .
But so long as they continue in bondage , blinded to the truth by the wicked wiles of men gone wrong .
THE LOG remains and thus all they can do is say DONT JUDGE to those who would correct and the leaven only grows more so
till places get filled to the full , which what they think is LIGHT and LOVE but is hate and darkness .
 

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Perhaps it would be a good idea for a church to do this: proclaim that anyone who sins must leave. If anyone is a homosexual, has committed adultery, cheated on their taxes, prayed to idols (RCC saint figurines), harmed anyone intentionally, gossiped, slandered others, boasted, disobeyed their parents, lied, cheated, or stolen, they must leave the church immediately. How many people would remain? Any?

You are clearly anti-LGBTQ. Why aren't you calling everyone out on other sins?
I call every sin out . and all sin must be dealt with and quicklytoo . lest the leaven fills the place full .
 

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Ps , and take a peek at what the title of this thread is about . Had it said abortion then i would have focused on that
OR had it said the love of money , or etc , or etc , THEN i would have focused on that .
Whatever sin is being glorified and accepted , WHEN I SEE IT , IT GETS EXPOSED .
 

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If one repents not of their sins but rather sits in justification of said sins , THEN YEAH get them out of the church .
Stop trying to grasp at bits of straw in a hurricane to try and justify wrong evil behavoir .
Rather correct them and not allow sin upon them . LEst ye think your way is wiser than the apostels or CHRIST himself .
CORRECT folks . The first main thing that would have helped ANYONE , however , IS IF the CHURCH leaders
themselves would teach ALL biblical pure and holy doctrine . That alone would have convicted some in error .
And others would probably leave on their own if they refused to repent . NO one is gonna sit
in a place that exposes sin , IF THEY LOVE SIN . they will always find another voice to sit under which AGREES to their sin .
THE MAIN THING should have been leaders simply focusing on all sound doctrine of Christ and the apostels .
Had they done that , churches would have been kept healthy and thriving under GOD and not doctrines of leaven of men gone wrong .
Churches should have been a place for the peoples to grow wise and mature , not rather this place
which through false doctrines and piss poor leadership of men either too afraid or flat out wolves in sheeps clothing
has led leaven right in and filled it fulled up with leaven . TILL NOW
not only do most so called christains not even know what has been lost in Christanity
they too are the lost sitting under the lost and places get only worse and into more darkness they go .
TIME TO BIBLE UP and stop following these hyper radical false love false unity men , and learn CHRIST for ourselves .
THEN folks will see clearly how to pull the speck out of the others eye .
But so long as they continue in bondage , blinded to the truth by the wicked wiles of men gone wrong .
THE LOG remains and thus all they can do is say DONT JUDGE to those who would correct and the leaven only grows more so
till places get filled to the full , which what they think is LIGHT and LOVE but is hate and darkness .
I am not trying to justify evil behavior. Sin is sin, regardless of the form it comes in. But again (and again and again) we are instructed to love our neighbor as ourself. Why do you think is loving your neighbor? a) You filthy faggot, I hope you die for your sin, and the sooner the better" or b) "I know that you are God's creation and that He loves you. John 3:16 says that He loves the world, including you."

And then you go off on some tangent judging church leaders and most so-called Christians. Amazing! Anyone else that you want to judge in your self-righteousness? You should be very, very, careful condemning those whom Christ has saved and have become children of God!!!

The log is in YOUR eye!
 

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I am not trying to justify evil behavior. Sin is sin, regardless of the form it comes in. But again (and again and again) we are instructed to love our neighbor as ourself. Why do you think is loving your neighbor? a) You filthy faggot, I hope you die for your sin, and the sooner the better" or b) "I know that you are God's creation and that He loves you. John 3:16 says that He loves the world, including you."

And then you go off on some tangent judging church leaders and most so-called Christians. Amazing! Anyone else that you want to judge in your self-righteousness? You should be very, very, careful condemning those whom Christ has saved and have become children of God!!!

The log is in YOUR eye!
Well it sure aint A . we all walked in darkness at one time . The answer is
preach all sound doctrine . Correct the error . warn the person in a sin . Most gays i know who sit in churches
already claim they BELIEVE . Thus do as paul said , IF any that is a brother or a sister be in SIN ,
CORRECT such a one . Dont even eat with said person till they repent . This sitting still and saying nothing
about their sin , IS THE REASON so many churches have now ended up supporting such sin .
LEAVEN lumps the place . Name calling is not what i do , exposing sin , however MUST BE DONE .
 

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I call every sin out . and all sin must be dealt with and quicklytoo . lest the leaven fills the place full .
yes, Amigo takes the place of the Holy Spirit. It's not the Holy Spirit that convicts, it's Amigo.


Jim was saying upthread that we all are sinners, and none of us (including you) should be in church. Jesus forgives, we can show His love, but leave the convicting to the Spirit. Amigo, you come across as a very hateful person. You are always quick to condemn.
 
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yes, Amigo takes the place of the Holy Spirit. It's not the Holy Spirit that convicts, it's Amigo.


Jim was saying upthread that we all are sinners, and none of us (including you) should be in church. Jesus forgives, we can show His love, but leave the convicting to the Spirit. Amigo, you come across as a very hateful person. You are always quick to condemn.
Surely sinners should be welcome in Church but no one should tell them to keep sinning.
 

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Perhaps it would be a good idea for a church to do this: proclaim that anyone who sins must leave. If anyone is a homosexual, has committed adultery, cheated on their taxes, prayed to idols (RCC saint figurines), harmed anyone intentionally, gossiped, slandered others, boasted, disobeyed their parents, lied, cheated, or stolen, they must leave the church immediately. How many people would remain? Any?

You are clearly anti-LGBTQ. Why aren't you calling everyone out on other sins?

It's a pity, when those who profess to be Christians .....don't follow the rulebook.

Romans 14:22, NIV: So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves.

Stop condoning sin and try to actually understand what the Bible says ....This single verse condems the Pastors, these readers who condemn what they don't know and the congregation that continues to attend in the darkness ....
 
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It is not our task to condem ....I've got several friends that are openly gay, as couples .....Each knows what I believe and where I stand. I invite them to come to productions and events in the church. Not one approves of the activists that plague their personal beliefs ....They understand I can't condem them and certainly won't discourage them from discussing the lifestyle as well. Which we've had numerous open discussions.
 

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The rainbow flag is the [final] sign of God's promise of not destroying the earth again with water, but also of His pouring out His holy fire (His spirit) upon all flesh. This is the prophesy of crossing the spiritual Jordan, as it was foretold long ago:

And Elijah the Tishbite, of the inhabitants of Gilead, said to Ahab, “As the Lord God of Israel lives, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, except at my word.”
2 Then the word of the Lord came to him, saying, 3 “Get away from here and turn eastward, and hide by the Brook Cherith, which flows into the Jordan. 4 And it will be that you shall drink from the brook, and I have commanded the ravens to feed you there.”​
 
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