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BreadOfLife

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Where there is a “GROUP”, there ARE individuals.

You may think YOUR Pope, YOUR Catholic Doctrine and YOUR Catholic Rituals, ..APPLY the same to ALL who call themselves “CATHOLICS”....

THEY Don’t.

Inasmuch as YOU think YOU’RE the self-appoint Catholic police patrol of this forum.

YOU are Not.

Thousands of people CLAIM to BE CATHOLIC.
Thousands of Catholic People, (like you) all have their own OPINIONS what it means to THEM, what they DO, what they DO NOT DO, what they Believe, regarding THEIR participation in a CATHOLIC “group”.

You are not the sole CATHOLIC, who speaks with people on this forum.
Seriously...there are many Catholics outside of the forum that people ON this forum converse with.

You CALLING everyone Wrong and a Liar, because OTHER Catholics have had discussions with people outside of the forum, and what OTHER Catholics have SAID becomes a topic of discussion ON this forum....and you go off on a wild accusatory rant, is old and boring.

No one appointed you top dog Catholic know it all, nor much care about you thinking you are.

If someone hates you, and wants you to know that tid bit....people are quite capable of telling you themselves.
WRONG again.

The Pope, Catholic doctrine, ritualsALL of it – applies to EVERY SINGLE Catholic.
Those who reject Catholic doctrine or the Papacy are NOT faithful Catholics – but dissidents. In other words – they’re just Protestants like YOU. You don’t get to make your OWN doctrines and remain a Catholic – anymore than you could as a Calvinist or Baptist.

As for the "thousands" who CLAIM to be Catholic - you can CLAIM to be from Mars, but it doesn't make it true.
You should be smart enough to understand this . . .
 

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It is obvious you do not comprehend the difference between or WHY there is a difference....between Trespasses and Sin.
Men Trespass AGAINST men. Men Can Forgive Trespasses.
Men SIN AGAINST God. Only God Forgives Sin.


Sorry bub....God Rates higher than men.
Men Against God, is a SIN.
Men Against men, is NOT a SIN!
Men NOT Believing IN God, is a SIN.
Men NOT Believing IN man, is NOT a SIN!
REALLY?

Stealing from your neighbor is NOT a sin??
Committing adultery with your neighbor’s wife is NOT a sin??
Murdering your neighbor is NOT a sin??
LYING to your neighbor is NOT a sin??
Soooooo, God wasted His time issuing the Ten Commandments??

This is the most idiotic thing I’ve read on this forum to date – and I’ve read a LOR of really stupid things here, mostly from YOU..

James admonishes his readers to confess your SINS to one another” (James 5:16).
WHAT do you think he’s taking about??
 

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I am not going to call you a liar as per your practise, but will give you the benefit of the doubt, preferring to think you are simply ignorant of Christian history and Bible doctrine.
No – I think it’s more about your NOT being able to substantiate your false prophetess’s invented doctrines.
 

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What were they conspiring?

All I can say is, regardless what ones religious belief is concerning God Almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth..
We are all coming under persocution by a world run by very evil people.
They don't care what our denomination is.
They are on a mission to Kill God.
And if they can persuade people through fear or might, they will.
They want God eradicated from every heart and every mind and every soul.

Keep the Faith.
Pray for all of our brothers and sisters in the Lord.
Thank you for sharing.
Hugs

You know us MAGA people are regarded as "terrorists" because we don't want marxism running our country either.
God Bless
Maybe you should move from Maine! The world isn't as dark and bleak as you imagine it to be.
 

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The Catholic war against Bible reading...

In 1199, Pope Innocent III, writing in a letter to the bishop of Metz, banned the reading the Bible in private meetings (which he labeled as occultis conventiculis, or "hidden assemblies").

The Council of Trent (1545-1564) placed the Bible on its list of prohibited books, and forbade any person to read the Bible without a license from a Roman Catholic bishop or inquisitor. The Council added these words: "That if any one shall dare to read or keep in his possession that book, without such a license, he shall not receive absolution till he has given it up to his ordinary."

But... The Psalms begins...

1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper. - Psalms 1

Which is why I am not Catholic!
 
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For starters, the prohibition in Deut. 18:11 is against seeking ORACLES from the dead.

And your Scripture for YOU PRAYING TO saints in HEAVEN...
IS WHAT?


In other words, Einstein – it is about trying to glean information FROM the dead.

And your Scripture for YOU PRAYING TO saints in HEAVEN...
IS WHAT?

Asking those in Heaven to pray for us is BIBLICAL because they are part of the Body of Christ.

And your Scripture for YOU PRAYING TO saints in HEAVEN...
IS WHAT?

Departure from this world does NOT automatically kick them OUT of the Body.

LOL...WHAAAAT?
Seriously, you do not know...
BODY’s are out of the dust of the Earth, DIE, return to the dust of Earth.
SAVED SOULS’ and QUICKENED SPIRITS, come from God, and return to God in HEAVEN...

Of course a Saved soul and Quickened spirit, DEPARTS OUT OF A DEAD BODY! :laughing:


In Rev. 5:8, we see the Elders in Heaven TAKING out prayers to God, They are INCTERCEDING on our behalf.

A Departed Spirit in Heaven, who is charged with the TASK of taking Prayers to God SHOULD have notified you....that THOSE ARE PRAYERS of the UNSAVED BELIEVERS, who intercessory IS JESUS....not you...not Saints in Heaven.

And IF you think they are taking YOUR prayers to God....THEN YOU HAVE NOT LEARNED....the SAVED AND BORN AGAIN....no longer REQUIRE a intercessory....THEY Have Gods Spirit IN them and can communicate DIRECTLY with God!

AGAIN....Where does ANY Scripture teach you to PRAY TO any Saints?

Asking a member of the Body of Christ in Heaven is no different than asking a member of the Body here on earth to pray for you.

Really? You communicate with men WITHOUT their body NOW?
Fascinating!


NOW – are you going to show me the Scriptural evidence for YOU idiotic claim?
"Scripture teaches AGAINST PRAYING TO “created” spirits, PRAYING TO dead men...FOR ANY REASON!"


I’m STILL waiting . . .

I showed you. You don’t accept....no matter to me.

So YOUR TURN, where is YOUR SCRIPTURE that teaches you to PRAY “TO” Saints.......on Earth or in Heaven?
 

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WRONG again.

The Pope, Catholic doctrine, ritualsALL of it – applies to EVERY SINGLE Catholic.
Those who reject Catholic doctrine or the Papacy are NOT faithful Catholics – but dissidents.

So a Catholic who does not PARTICIPATE in Catholic rituals, whether or not it applies to them....is by your standard...a dissident?



In other words – they’re just Protestants like YOU. You don’t get to make your OWN doctrines and remain a Catholic – anymore than you could as a Calvinist or Baptist.

Or in other words, they are Catholic just like you. Claim they are Catholic, Snarky, Know it all, always think they are right and everyone who disagrees with them is wrong, and homosexual, and pretend they are celibate when they are not, secret Drunks, and play God forgiving men of SINS,
 

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REALLY?

Stealing from your neighbor is NOT a sin??
Committing adultery with your neighbor’s wife is NOT a sin??
Murdering your neighbor is NOT a sin??
LYING to your neighbor is NOT a sin??

Trespasses of one person against another person.


Soooooo, God wasted His time issuing the Ten Commandments??

Perhaps with you it was wasted time.

The TEN COMMANDMENTS is a precursor of PRECEPTS “between and among men”, in preparation of a RELATIONSHIP with God.

YOU haven’t figured that out, and still REQUIRE an ADVOCATE “BETWEEN” you and God.

This is the most idiotic thing I’ve read on this forum to date

You should have learned from the KNOWLEDGE in Scripture, your Carnal Mind can not comprehend Spiritual things....and your WORD reflects that your Carnal Mind does you no favors.


James admonishes his readers to confess your SINS to one another” (James 5:16).
WHAT do you think he’s taking about??

Trespasses.
 

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So a Catholic who does not PARTICIPATE in Catholic rituals, whether or not it applies to them....is by your standard...a dissident?





Or in other words, they are Catholic just like you. Claim they are Catholic, Snarky, Know it all, always think they are right and everyone who disagrees with them is wrong, and homosexual, and pretend they are celibate when they are not, secret Drunks, and play God forgiving men of SINS,
Bread of life is actually what the true RCC is all about . He studies diligently all things they do teach .
Which outta tell ya why i dont sit under that place . Most catholics are like most protestants
they basically just go with the motions and throw some religion in maybe at church .
He is a solider of ROME and any pope would probably be proud , so very proud of him .
But then you see why i dont sit under Rome . Most of your catholics are as lukewarm
in their religoin as are lots of protestants in theirs . Its why they also are so fast to call for this unity so called .
THEY actually believe even mormons follow the same JESUS . If folks even dared
to study their own leaders and where their doctrine came from and then knew about other faiths
THEY WOULD know full well , WELL WE CANT JOIN IN UNITY with all that mess . That light and dark cannot coexist .
 

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The USA is supposed to be a beacon of light.
Light is also considered Truth in the Bible.

I suppose on one hand what we are witnessing going on in the world is the truth.
We are poor, we are wretched, we are hateful, mean, greedy, and most of all or worst of all LIARS.
Everywhere lies, lies, lies.

This is not God's truth. This is not love, mercy, peace, humility, goodness, kindness, rich in faith. TRUTH.

The beacon has gone dark. And truth is falling in the streets.

WAKE UP!
REPENT!
 
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The USA is supposed to be a beacon of light.
Light is also considered Truth in the Bible.

I suppose on one hand what we are witnessing going on in the world is the truth.
We are poor, we are wretched, we are hateful, mean, greedy, and most of all or worst of all LIARS.
Everywhere lies, lies, lies.

This is not God's truth. This is not love, mercy, peace, humility, goodness, kindness, rich in faith. TRUTH.

The beacon has gone dark. And truth is falling in the streets.

WAKE UP!
REPENT!
Once upon a time earthly JERSUALEM too was to be a beacon of light
but as her leaders and peoples transgressed more and more
she became worse than even the surrounding nations .
Do you realize that even in the most proclaimed atheist and buddist countries
they have more morality than even the so called western nations who CLAIM HIS NAME .
We do realize the worst place to be was where the jews had become . HOLLERING HIS NAME
but their hearts were far from HIM . IN THE MIDDLE GROUND is the worst .
You dont see china or russia claiming to be christain , and yet even they have not honored some sins NEAR as much
as have the western nations and her churches .
HOUSTON , WE GOTTIE A PROBLEM . JUDGMENT IS AT THE DOOR .
Dont think it cant happen . IT has before . GOD has judged HIS OWN peoples who did exactly what the western so called
christain nations and churches ARE DOING RIGHT NOW .
AND HE JUDGED THEM , BY A NATION WHO DID NOT FOLLOW HIM either . BABYLON was not GOD CENTERED .
But were used to JUDGE HIS PEOPLES due to their LUKEWARM STATUS .
I COUNSEL THEE TO BUY OF ME GOLD TRIED IN THE FIRE , WE Might wanna learn that a bit .
I have told us before and may my body be dead and stinking in the soil before i cease .
THE ONLY WAY JUDGMENT IS NOT COMING , IS FOR THE CHURCHES TO REPENT OF THIS ALL INCLUSIVE RAINBOW
many PATH LIE . And since that is the delusion , LOOK OUT cause its leading all to a false hope
a hope which wont save them or the earth , but rather will bring blood against the lambs and wrath AGAINST THEMSELVES BY GOD .
The great hour of our betrayal is at the door . I SAY ITS BETTER TO have known CHRIST and suffering great persecution
at the hands of men in this life , than to buy a lie , live a king and yet FACE THE WRATH OF GOD ON HIS DAY .
JUST SAYING .
 
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THE ONLY WAY JUDGMENT IS NOT COMING , IS FOR THE CHURCHES TO REPENT
Period.

It's not about rainbows. It's about our hearts and minds. It's about putting God first.

I watch Washington Journal in the mornings on C-Span. They always have a topic for people to call and give their opinions on.
Today's was concerning China.
God is going to use China to wake us up. We won't turn to him until we are broken.

Psa 78:1
[[Maschil of Asaph.]] Give ear, O my people, to my law: incline your ears to the words of my mouth.
Psa 78:2
I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
Psa 78:3
Which we have heard and known, and our fathers have told us.
Psa 78:4
We will not hide them from their children, shewing to the generation to come the praises of the LORD, and his strength, and his wonderful works that he hath done.
Psa 78:5
For he established a testimony in Jacob, and appointed a law in Israel, which he commanded our fathers, that they should make them known to their children:
Psa 78:6
That the generation to come might know them, even the children which should be born; who should arise and declare them to their children:
Psa 78:7
That they might set their hope in God, and not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments:
Psa 78:8
And might not be as their fathers, a stubborn and rebellious generation; a generation that set not their heart aright, and whose spirit was not stedfast with God.
Psa 78:9
The children of Ephraim, being armed, and carrying bows, turned back in the day of battle.
Psa 78:10
They kept not the covenant of God, and refused to walk in his law;
Psa 78:11
And forgat his works, and his wonders that he had shewed them.

STOP HATING
STOP LYING
STOP STEALING/ MONEY LAUNDERING
STOP SLEEPING AROUND WITH OTHER NATIONS/COMMUNISM, MARXISM
STOP the PROPAGANDA
STOP CREATING WARS TO TAKE OTHER PEOPLE'S RESOURCES.

JUST STOP IT!

And because we won't, God is going to send China to kick our .....

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Bread of life is actually what the true RCC is all about . He studies diligently all things they do teach .
Which outta tell ya why i dont sit under that place . Most catholics are like most protestants
they basically just go with the motions and throw some religion in maybe at church .
He is a solider of ROME and any pope would probably be proud , so very proud of him .
But then you see why i dont sit under Rome . Most of your catholics are as lukewarm
in their religoin as are lots of protestants in theirs . Its why they also are so fast to call for this unity so called .
THEY actually believe even mormons follow the same JESUS . If folks even dared
to study their own leaders and where their doctrine came from and then knew about other faiths
THEY WOULD know full well , WELL WE CANT JOIN IN UNITY with all that mess . That light and dark cannot coexist .
When are you going to stop condemning everyone but yourself? You condemn Catholics and Protestants, but you omit Orthodox and Jews (as well as others who worship God). You are so self-righteous that you can't see who you really are? Satan does an excellent job judging and condemning believers; he doesn't need your help!
 

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Looking at the world from a spiritual point of view...
It is extremely dark friend.. extremely.

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Genesis 1:31, "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day."

John 3:16-17, "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."

You see the world one way but God sees it exactly the opposite way!
 

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The USA is supposed to be a beacon of light.
Light is also considered Truth in the Bible.

I suppose on one hand what we are witnessing going on in the world is the truth.
We are poor, we are wretched, we are hateful, mean, greedy, and most of all or worst of all LIARS.
Everywhere lies, lies, lies.

This is not God's truth. This is not love, mercy, peace, humility, goodness, kindness, rich in faith. TRUTH.

The beacon has gone dark. And truth is falling in the streets.

WAKE UP!
REPENT!
"We are poor, we are wretched, we are hateful, mean, greedy, and most of all or worst of all LIARS.
Everywhere lies, lies, lies." Speak for yourself!
 

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Period.

It's not about rainbows. It's about our hearts and minds. It's about putting God first.

I watch Washington Journal in the mornings on C-Span. They always have a topic for people to call and give their opinions on.
Today's was concerning China.
God is going to use China to wake us up. We won't turn to him until we are broken.

Psa 78:1
[[Maschil of Asaph.]] Give ear, O my people, to my law: incline your ears to the words of my mouth.
Psa 78:2
I will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:
Psa 78:3
Which we have heard and known, and our fathers have told us.
Psa 78:4
We will not hide them from their children, shewing to the generation to come the praises of the LORD, and his strength, and his wonderful works that he hath done.
Psa 78:5
For he established a testimony in Jacob, and appointed a law in Israel, which he commanded our fathers, that they should make them known to their children:
Psa 78:6
That the generation to come might know them, even the children which should be born; who should arise and declare them to their children:
Psa 78:7
That they might set their hope in God, and not forget the works of God, but keep his commandments:
Psa 78:8
And might not be as their fathers, a stubborn and rebellious generation; a generation that set not their heart aright, and whose spirit was not stedfast with God.
Psa 78:9
The children of Ephraim, being armed, and carrying bows, turned back in the day of battle.
Psa 78:10
They kept not the covenant of God, and refused to walk in his law;
Psa 78:11
And forgat his works, and his wonders that he had shewed them.

STOP HATING
STOP LYING
STOP STEALING/ MONEY LAUNDERING
STOP SLEEPING AROUND WITH OTHER NATIONS/COMMUNISM, MARXISM
STOP the PROPAGANDA
STOP CREATING WARS TO TAKE OTHER PEOPLE'S RESOURCES.

JUST STOP IT!

And because we won't, God is going to send China to kick our .....

Hugs
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So a Catholic who does not PARTICIPATE in Catholic rituals, whether or not it applies to them....is by your standard...a dissident?
That’s not what I said – but I realize that YOU can only converse dishonestly . . .
Or in other words, they are Catholic just like you. Claim they are Catholic, Snarky, Know it all, always think they are right and everyone who disagrees with them is wrong, and homosexual, and pretend they are celibate when they are not, secret Drunks, and play God forgiving men of SINS,
Like I said – you can CLAIM to be from Mars – but that doesn’t make it so.

And just because YOU can’t grasp being celibate for the service of God – like Paul – doesn’t mean that those who ARE celibate are all drunken perverts.

Sounds like you’re
projecting . . .
 

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Trespasses of one person against another person.

Perhaps with you it was wasted time.

The TEN COMMANDMENTS is a precursor of PRECEPTS “between and among men”, in preparation of a RELATIONSHIP with God.

YOU haven’t figured that out, and still REQUIRE an ADVOCATE “BETWEEN” you and God.
Every time I think you’ve made the MOST idiotic statement you could make – you OUTDO yourself.

Your claim above in RED is a supremely asinine statement. The Ten Commandments are NOT a “precursor” to

The first few Commandments apply directly to God – and the rest apply to your fellow manPERIOD. They’re not “precursors” to our relationships with each other and with God- and are as pertinent today as they were when Moses received them from God.


You should have learned from the KNOWLEDGE in Scripture, your Carnal Mind can not comprehend Spiritual things....and your WORD reflects that your Carnal Mind does you no favors.
Trespasses.
James, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit calls is “SIN” – period.

The Greek word used here is ηαμαρτια (ham-ar-tee'-ah), which is the SAME word used for “Sin” as in 1 John 1:8-10, Rom, 6:23, Rom. 3:23, James 1:15, 1 Pet & 2:24.

You LOSE this argument.