Truthseeker I understand what you siad but only thing I have problem is Christian who obey the bible and whorship in the God. I think should been said Christian who obey and whorship God. When you obey the bible, you are just making Christina a religion and the bible does say don't have a religion. Which obeying the bible won't spearate Christina from another religion.
Wayne, are you suggesting you disobey the Bible or any part of the Bible? Yes or No?
And you said Bible doesn't say to have a religion, but that is misleading and a false teaching. James talked about religion, the PURE RELIGION:
James 1:27 Pure and undefiled religion in the sight of our God and Father is this: to visit orphans and widows in their distress, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.
The Bible is clear about it..there is a religion, a PURE and undefiled religion, and James taught about it.
God bless.,
Do you have any scriptures to support your opinion?
Can you show scripture that requires a new covenant participant to pay tithes and if so can you also give the dynamics of this tithe and how it is to be carried out today, ie; who is required to tithe, how is the amount of the tithe figured, who is to receive the tithe and how is the tithe to be distributed?
Tithing is a New Covenant teaching and is still valid, and that's easy for anyone to see if they truly loved the truth. It's only people who hate the idea of giving to God their first 10% of ALL INCOME, that try to look for ways to escape it, because they trust in MONEY more than God to provide for themselves.
1Cor 9: 1-14 is the clearest passage in the NT regarding tithing. Paul refers to those who worked in the temple were paid from the monies that went into the temple. Then he says, "in the same way those who preach the gospel should live from the Gospel." It seems that he says that the way the Levites were paid was the model for the NT era preacher. The church at Corinth was totally Gentile - 1 Cor 12:2 - and here Paul tells these guys that they should tithe in 1 Cor 9.
People were tithing in Paul's day BUT TO JESUS. Hebrews 7:8 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.
THIS IS CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT TITHING WAS PRACTISED TO JESUS - in Paul's day the Jews who had not accepted Jesus tithed to the levites still - however Jesus received as tithes - back then and still now - and in 1 COr 9 Paul says that we pass them onto the ministers.
Hebrews 7:1,2,8-10
For this Melchizedek, king of Salem, priest of the Most High God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings and blessed him,2 to whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all, first being translated “king of righteousness,” and then also king of Salem, meaning “king of peace,”8 Here mortal men receive tithes, but there he receives them, of whom it is witnessed that he lives.9 Even Levi, who receives tithes, paid tithes through Abraham, so to speak,10 for he was still in the loins of his father when Melchizedek met him.
The Bible is very clear for anyone who earnstly seeks the truth, that tithing is a New Covenant principle, and God knows, we need it more than EVER in history now as humans have gone astray and become worshippers of money. Tithing shows us and God that we completely trust in God as our number 1 to provide for us. Yet sadly, many Christians in the world are NOT tithing because they fear being left short money to pay their bills. But thank God many Christians are tithing and they show that their FIRST 10% of ALL INCOME goes to God and that they trust to survive on the other 90% and have complete faith in God. They worship God as their number one and not money!
Ask yourself honestly, why do you refuse to tithe? Do you reason that you cannot afford it? Do you fear being left short? Do you place money before God? Do you trust in MONEY before God to provide for you and your family? Answer honestly, remember God is listening.
God bless.