23 major reasons to reject the Premil doctrine!

[WPM]

Then you are not speaking of the same reign of Christ, that Scripture is prophesying.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.

His eternal reign and everlasting kingdom begun at His resurrection, will never end. His physical reign on earth will expire, before the earth itself passes away.

LOL. You are talking in riddles. If His reign is everlasting then it cannot end. Where in Rev 20 does it show Jesus reigning on earth?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Then you are not speaking of the same reign of Christ, that Scripture is prophesying.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.

His eternal reign and everlasting kingdom begun at His resurrection, will never end. His physical reign on earth will expire, before the earth itself passes away.

No, His physical reign on earth won't ever even begin because it's not going to happen.

But, let's talk about this from your Premil perspective. How could you think that He would not still be reigning if He was still on earth at that point? It only says that Satan will be loosed when the thousand years ends and does not say that Christ will stop reigning at that point. That is your assumption. But, I don't think it makes much sense to think He would be on the earth, but not reigning for even a short time.

 

[Always Believing]

LOL. You are talking in riddles.

I.e. you don't want to acknowledge it's simple proof.

If His reign is everlasting then it cannot end.

Correct. Not if, but is.

The expiration of His physical reign on earth is a thousand years.

 

[Always Believing]

Rev 20 takes us back to the first resurrection of Christ, which you reject.

Then His eternal reign and kingdom expires.

Premil does not believe that "first" means first and "last" means last. The English words “first” and “last”

Perfect example of science falsely so called. Sophistry is an old art of profane philosophy.

That all depends on what the meaning of is, is. -Bill Clinton

 

[Always Believing]

Yes (LOL),

Be sure not to swallow a frog.

And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

 

[Always Believing]

No, His physical reign on earth won't ever even begin because it's not going to happen.

So you say and wish, for some reason.

But, let's talk about this from your Premil perspective.

I don't have a perspective. I just quote Scripture and say it means what it says.

How could you think that He would not still be reigning if He was still on earth at that point? It only says that Satan will be loosed when the thousand years ends and does not say that Christ will stop reigning at that point. That is your assumption. But, I don't think it makes much sense to think He would be on the earth, but not reigning for even a short time.

I don't argue with carnal philosophy of those that don't believe plain words of Scripture.

In the resurrection therefore, when they shall rise, whose wife shall she be of them? for the seven had her to wife.

The physical kingdom of Christ on earth will expire after a thousand years. His eternal reign never expires.

 

[WPM]

Then His eternal reign and kingdom expires.


Perfect example of science falsely so called. Sophistry is an old art of profane philosophy.

That all depends on what the meaning of is, is. -Bill Clinton

You may think Christ eternal reign and kingdom expires, Amils do not.

 

[WPM]

I.e. you don't want to acknowledge it's simple proof.


Correct. Not if, but is.

The expiration of His physical reign on earth is a thousand years.

You or no Premil can show us Jesus on earth through your imaginary future millennium. That is because it is a Premil invention. .

 

[Always Believing]

You may think Christ eternal reign and kingdom expires, Amils do not.

I don't doubt that. You just ignorantly prophecy it.

The fun just keeps getting funner.

 

[Always Believing]

You or no Premil can show us Jesus on earth through your imaginary future millennium. That is because it is a Premil invention. .

Well, I would say prophesying an imaginary kingdom on earth expiring, is lots better than prophesying Christ's eternal kingdom on earth expiring.

 

[Keraz]

You or no Premil can show us Jesus on earth through your imaginary future millennium. That is because it is a Premil invention. .

The Millennium reign of King Jesus on earth, is plainly described in Revelation 20. It will be His reward from God the Father. Psalms 2:8
Any denial of this truth is false teaching.

 

[WPM]

The Millennium reign of King Jesus on earth, is plainly described in Revelation 20. It will be His reward from God the Father. Psalms 2:8
Any denial of this truth is false teaching.

How about quoting the evidence instead of always presenting your own private opinions.

 

[Keraz]

The fun just keeps getting funner.

It is actually very sad that Christian people find it necessary to change the meaning of plain Words in the Bible.
Revelation 20 says six times that there will be a thousand years on earth, after Jesus Returns and before the final Judgment of mankind.

Unfortunately, those who have chosen to believe teachings such as the AMill theory, are locked into it and are virtually unable to comprehend the Bible truths. Isaiah 29:9-12

Only after the forthcoming Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, will all finally understand. Isaiah 35:4-5, Isaiah 32:3-4, +

 

[WPM]

Well, I would say prophesying an imaginary kingdom on earth expiring, is lots better than prophesying Christ's eternal kingdom on earth expiring.

The burden of proof is with you. The first principle of evidence is: he who alleges must prove. The ball is in your court. You cannot quote it because it is an illusion. Your masters have misled you. If you had evidence you would give it.

 

[Always Believing]

It is actually very sad that Christian people find it necessary to change the meaning of plain Words in the Bible.
Revelation 20 says six times that there will be a thousand years on earth, after Jesus Returns and before the final Judgment of mankind.

Unfortunately, those who have chosen to believe teachings such as the AMill theory, are locked into it and are virtually unable to comprehend the Bible truths. Isaiah 29:9-12

Only after the forthcoming Day of the Lord's fiery wrath, will all finally understand. Isaiah 35:4-5, Isaiah 32:3-4, +

I personally think it goes much deeper than a simple dispute over literal and symbolic.

The time of Christ Jesus physically on the cross is intertwined with His time reigning physically over the earth. To symbolize one is to symbolize the other, which leads to symbolizing His coming in the flesh to earth altogether.

 

[WPM]

I personally think it goes much deeper than a simple dispute over literal and symbolic.

The time of Christ Jesus physically on the cross is intertwined with His time reigning physically over the earth. To symbolize one is to symbolize the other, which leads to symbolizing His coming in the flesh to earth altogether.

LOL. It is you that must reject or symbolize literal truth.

The first is not the first. The last is not the last. The end is not the end. The last day is not the last day. Premil is a joke. They spiritualize multiple Scripture with the false teaching. They have zero corroboration fro their private interpretation of Rev 20. The climactic detail of 2 vPeter 3 is dismissed because it exposes Premil. I will prove my case:

1. Do you literally believe Christ is coming suddenly and unexpectedly "as a thief in the night" as the Bible says (1 Thessalonians 5:2 and 2 Peter 3:10)?
2. Do you literally believe the wicked will experience "sudden destruction" from His appearance as the Bible says (1 Thessalonians 5:3)?
3. Do you literally believe the wicked "shall not escape" as the Bible says (1 Thessalonians 5:3)?
4. Do you literally believe that "the heavens shall pass away with a great noise" when He returns as a thief as the Bible says (2 Peter 3:10)?
5. Do you literally believe that "the elements shall melt with fervent heat" when He returns as a thief as the Bible says (2 Peter 3:10 & 12)?
6. Do you literally believe that "the earth also ... shall be burned up" when He returns as a thief as the Bible says (2 Peter 3:10)?
7. Do you literally believe that "the works that are therein [the earth] shall be burned up" when He returns as a thief as the Bible says (2 Peter 3:10)?
8. Do you literally believe that the righteous are actually looking "for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness” when He returns as a thief as the Bible says (2 Peter 3:13)?

 

[Always Believing]

Your masters have misled you.

There's a thread out about amillennialism and the occult. It talks about mastery over their acolytes.

Funny you should talk about such 'masters'. It would never occur to me to do so. It looks like you are all too familiar with talking about masters.

WPM: World Proselytized Masters? World Prophesied Millennialism?

The world may never know.

 

[WPM]

There's a thread out about amillennialism and the occult. It talks about mastery over their acolytes.

Funny you should talk about such 'masters'. It would never occur to me to do so. It looks like you are all too familiar with talking about masters.

WPM: World Proselytized Masters? World Prophesied Millennialism?

The world may never know.

Oh. So, you are now unto Phase 2 of the Premil response to the truth: ad hominem. Phase 3 normally follows swiftly after: which is running with your tail between your legs. It is so predictable engaging with Premils.

They get frustrated because they cannot answer simple questions, accept plain literal biblical truth, or justify what their teachers have indoctrinated them with. They are then left holding the baby. How else can they continue?

 

[Always Believing]

LOL. It is you that must reject or symbolize literal truth.

Telos is always literal. Christ's physical kingdom literally ends after the thousand years are expired.

Saying His kingdom on earth is His eternal reign, says His everlasting kingdom literally ends.

And so, let's have the conclusion of the matter. Did Jesus Christ literally finish His work on the cross and physically die. Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh to do so?

I'm only curious to see if you answer. I confess yes to both.

 

[Always Believing]

Oh. So, you are now unto Phase 2 of the Premil response to the truth: ad hominem. Phase 3 normally follows swiftly after: which is running with your tail between your legs. It is so predictable engaging with Premils.

They get frustrated because they cannot answer simple questions, accept plain literal biblical truth, or justify what their teachers have indoctrinated them with. They are then left holding the baby. How else can they continue?

No, phase three is more simple:

Did Jesus Christ literally finish His work on the cross and physically die. Did Jesus Christ come in the flesh to do so? I say yes to both.

I just want to establish a basic groundwork to argue from here.