How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

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Eternally Grateful

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Another I thought of is where Paul mentioned we have all had our conversation in the flesh. Then he goes on elsewhere to talk of a better conversation heavenward. I have to get off here, but I’m only pointing out (to me) there seems to much about a higher calling, called heavenward, in Christ.
Interesting,

I tried to look this up. I could not find it. Can you show me this so I can see what you are seeing?

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Heavenly calling


Hebrews 3 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,

This is the only reference I see to heavenly calling.. And in this passage. The author states it is all the bretheryn who have been partakers of this calling.. Not just some.
 
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Another I thought of is where Paul mentioned we have all had our conversation in the flesh. Then he goes on elsewhere to talk of a better conversation heavenward. I have to get off here, but I’m only pointing out (to me) there seems to much about a higher calling, called heavenward, in Christ.
Philippians 3:15-21 KJV
15) Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
16) Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.
17) Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
18) (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19) Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
20) For our conversation (Greek "citizenship") is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21) Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

So that "lower walk" is a fleshy walk, and the "higher walk" is the spiritual walk. But not that there is a Christian walk that is "fleshy", and an higher Christian walk that is "spiritual".

The Christian who walking in a fleshy walk needs to be transformed by the renewing of the mind, not by being "taken up" into that spiritual walk.

We are all called to walk in the Spirit, and in faith we do that. Some here are claiming that we are not able to, unless God gives us something extra, but what God says is, "If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit."

We aren't lacking the power to do so, the Spirit lives in us. It's a question of faith.

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We go on to maturity. Not like you live on one floor, then go to another floor to live. Those who are regenerated are "in Christ", and Christ is in them.

Much love!
Amen when we live for Christ we walk in the spirit and when we live for self we walk in the flesh. It’s just that simple . Obedience or disobedience. Flesh vs Spirit.
 
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Hebrews 3 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus,

This is the only reference I see to heavenly calling.. And in this passage. The author states it is all the bretheryn who have been partakers of this calling.. Not just some.
Which is setting our minds on the things above not in the things of this world.
 

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Amen when we live for Christ we walk in the spirit and when we live for self we walk in the flesh. It’s just that simple . Obedience or disobedience. Flesh vs Spirit.
And the more consistently walk in the Spirit, the more this demonstrates our maturing, the renewing of the mind.

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Philippians 3:15-21 KJV
15) Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.
16) Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.
17) Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample.
18) (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:
19) Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.)
20) For our conversation (Greek "citizenship") is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21) Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

So that "lower walk" is a fleshy walk, and the "higher walk" is the spiritual walk. But not that there is a Christian walk that is "fleshy", and an higher Christian walk that is "spiritual".

The Christian who walking in a fleshy walk needs to be transformed by the renewing of the mind, not by being "taken up" into that spiritual walk.

We are all called to walk in the Spirit, and in faith we do that. Some here are claiming that we are not able to, unless God gives us something extra, but what God says is, "If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit."

We aren't lacking the power to do so, the Spirit lives in us. It's a question of faith.

Much love!

@Eternally Grateful
Amen it’s being conflated by some the higher vs lower walk/ life.
 

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Which is setting our minds on the things above not in the things of this world.
yes, the things above are the things Jesus did. he loved everyone, put there needs above his 100% of the time.

This is walking in the spirit.. and we call can do it. Because we all, if we are born again, Have received the love of God

we love because he first loved us.
 

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Save SOME by compassion
others with FEAR hating even the garment spotted by the flesh .
Be encouraged my friend .
When did YOU ever offer compassion? All you ever do is condemn your brothers and sisters in Christ, as well as those outside of Christ.
 
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When did YOU ever offer compassion? All you ever do is condemn your brothers and sisters in Christ, as well as those outside of Christ.
Pope francis , kenneth copeland , aint bros and sisters . THEY are decievers .
HAVE I even called you false . NOW THINK ABOUT THAT JIM .
Have i ever said OH JIM IS FALSE , HE OF THE DEVIL .
Have I . Now repeat after me , POPE FRANCIS , HOWEVER , IS FALSE .
I am just trying to help you and others .
Had you been in that one church who ALLOWED that false prophetess to teach .
YOU would have came after me for warning against her .
YET GOD HIMSELF WARNED AGAINST HER and AGAINST THOSE ALLOWING HER TO TEACH AND TO SEDUCE HIS PEOPLE .
I , IS JUST TRYING TO WARN HIS PEOPLE not to follow false ones . NOW GO AND PONDER ON THAT FOR A BIT JIM /
 

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He never condemns me and many others.

Hmmmmmmm
I aint even ever condemend JIM . Jim dont like it cause i warn out against pope francis and those who lead in and teach
the all inclusive social gosple . WHICH I PROMISE IS NO GOSPLE .
Jim bought the lie . And all i do is desire to help the man .
But i do remind us all of something . IF a man knows one is false
and yet wont warn against it , but rather allows it to teach and to seduce ...........
HOW DO WE THINK GOD SEES THAT .
WELL let us all go read revelation again .
GOD was angry at one church . And it wasnt cause they were teaching false doctrine
though HE does get angry at that . IT was cause they were simply ALLOWING a false one to seduce to and teach the people .
I have been banned from many sites for warning against those who taught falsehoods and their falsehoods .
It wont stop me my friend . It wont . I have long ago put my self to the side
and decided no matter how evil folks treat me , I WILL DO what is best for them no matter the cost .
 
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yes, the things above are the things Jesus did. he loved everyone, put there needs above his 100% of the time.

This is walking in the spirit.. and we call can do it. Because we all, if we are born again, Have received the love of God

we love because he first loved us.
He sure did . And he sure warned . JESUS LOVED HIS OWN . JESUS loved
yet i sure seen many warnings . And anytime JESUS was even invited to dinner
I always SEEN HIS LOVE . HE always CORRECTED ERROR . now let us go and do likewise .
 

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What makes you believe this?
I aint here to badger or speak ill of the man . You go and follow him .
PUT him on FOLLOW . You watch and learn .
I aint here to accuse him of being false . BUT I am here to keep reminding him of the danger he is in .
HE keeps on coming after me . And for what . cause i do warn agaisnt falsehoods
cause i expose pope francis or others .
Folks act like anyone who just says THEY is a christain MUST BE ONE .
THERE were false prophets among the peoples , and i am telling us they are false ones amongst us NOW .
Peter warned about this . Paul warned . jude did . JESUS HIMSELF DID .
Many will come in AMONGST US , but they are not OF US . They bring in damnable heresays EVEN DENYING
the LORD that brought them .
Some people act as though this is not possible .
Some people act as though this just cannot be true .
But i am telling us its not great mystery that even ministirs of satan can come in among us
and appear as ministirs of righteousness . COURSE PAUL SAID IT FIRST .
AND its ONLY GOT MUCH WORSE SINCE EVEN HIS DAYS .
Hold not thy breath waiting for me to stop warning out . IT aint gonna happen .
I LOVE THE PEOPLE . And even if i am hated and seen as a monster for my love , I AM gonna do what is best for
the people cause i LOVE THEM . I EXPOSE WOLVES and thier doctrine
And my message is , COME TO CHRIST AND LEARN THAT BIBLE WELL cause we have many decievers who
have come in amongst us . No man can stop me from loving the people and doing what is best .
And i aint alone . THERE are other lambs who have long been doing the same thing .
I aint NUTTING great . I do not desire the praise of men PEROID . I just love the peoples no matter
what folks think about me . AND i am , by the grace of GOD , gonna continue to do as i am led to do .
 

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I aint here to badger or speak ill of the man . You go and follow him .
PUT him on FOLLOW . You watch and learn .
I aint here to accuse him of being false . BUT I am here to keep reminding him of the danger he is in .
HE keeps on coming after me . And for what . cause i do warn agaisnt falsehoods
cause i expose pope francis or others .
Folks act like anyone who just says THEY is a christain MUST BE ONE .
THERE were false prophets among the peoples , and i am telling us they are false ones amongst us NOW .
Peter warned about this . Paul warned . jude did . JESUS HIMSELF DID .
Many will come in AMONGST US , but they are not OF US . They bring in damnable heresays EVEN DENYING
the LORD that brought them .
Some people act as though this is not possible .
Some people act as though this just cannot be true .
But i am telling us its not great mystery that even ministirs of satan can come in among us
and appear as ministirs of righteousness . COURSE PAUL SAID IT FIRST .
AND its ONLY GOT MUCH WORSE SINCE EVEN HIS DAYS .
Hold not thy breath waiting for me to stop warning out . IT aint gonna happen .
I LOVE THE PEOPLE . And even if i am hated and seen as a monster for my love , I AM gonna do what is best for
the people cause i LOVE THEM . I EXPOSE WOLVES and thier doctrine
And my message is , COME TO CHRIST AND LEARN THAT BIBLE WELL cause we have many decievers who
have come in amongst us . No man can stop me from loving the people and doing what is best .
And i aint alone . THERE are other lambs who have long been doing the same thing .
I aint NUTTING great . I do not desire the praise of men PEROID . I just love the peoples no matter
what folks think about me . AND i am , by the grace of GOD , gonna continue to do as i am led to do .
I get it, your assumed role is lamb warner
 
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