How are we to reckon ourselves as being dead to sin?

[Waiting on him]

Cause while we are seated with Christ in heavenly places
we still await His glorious coming which shall change our bodies .
While we have indeed come unto Mount zion , the heavenly jerusalem .
STILL we wait for the coming city as well . For flesh and blood cannot inherit
the Kingdom . One day we will have new changed glorified bodies .
Till then we are connected to it by the SPIRIT , but one day we walk IN IT . WELL if we dont preach
some other social gospel . Cause that gospel cannot save . But the glorious gospel of Christ sure can .

This is just sad.

 

[Episkopos]

Some conflate our position with our practice

Which clearly shows how you have run away with a religious imagination...bringing discredit to God's words. The unlearned read the bible and claim every high thing for themselves. But these are poor, wretched, naked, an blind,...as Jesus says.

 

[ChristisGod]

The crows are out to feed this morning.

When I post scriptures you call it false teaching. You hate the truth. But when you posts scripture...and then add in your silly notions based on indoctrination...I call that out.

You can’t call anything out as false prophets have no authority. They are their own authority which is why you never answer a direct question about the Bible or comment on a single scripture I post because you are incapable of refuting the truth from the scriptures I post.

hope this helps !!

 

[Episkopos]

Rather odd , epi makes fun of me for calling ourselves lambs
but he seems to have no problem calling us crows .
Remember that epi . your comment about a nursery . yet here you go again
calling the lambs crows . Guess we both use the names of animals .

Brute beasts...who speak without fear...who speak without knowledge, wisdom or any understanding. Who hide a seared conscience behind bible slogans. And you are their champion in all these things. Compromised by the flesh. Posturing to look more 'right" by vast stretches of the imagination.

 

[ChristisGod]

Which clearly shows how you have run away with a religious imagination...bringing discredit to God's words. The unlearned read the bible and claim every high thing for themselves. But these are poor, wretched, naked, an blind,...as Jesus says.

oh the irony lol. who is the self proclaimed prophet with the higher walk he touts here on a daily basis ?

do you have a mirror yet ?

 

[amigo de christo]

Some conflate our position with our practice

its why paul once wrote , BEHOLD i shew you a mystery . For now , by the SPIRIT the Kingdom is within us
but one day when this mortal shall have shed its mortal robe , corruption shall have put on incorruption .
We shall not all sleep , but we shall all be changed . Flesh and blood cannot inherit the KINGOM .
One day we gonna have new glorified bodies . TILL THEN the LORD is with us , but one day WE SHALL FOREVER BE WITH HIM
in a new home , a new earth , new heavens wherein dwells righteousness .
Till then we must travel through this old world , but are not OF IT , we are on a pilgrimage .
Let all that has breath praise the glorious Lord . at the end of our faith we shall forever be HOME
with HE who has saved us and kept us . PRAISE THE LORD and let none follow this other false all inclusive social gospel
WHICH I PROMISE IS NO GOSPEL . The GOSPEL POINTS TO JESUS CHRIST , not to man and his own way , BUT TO FAITH IN CHRIST

 

[amigo de christo]

Brute beasts...who speak without fear...who speak without knowledge, wisdom or any understanding. Who hide a seared conscience behind bible slogans. And you are their champion in all these things. Compromised by the flesh. Posturing to look more 'right" by vast stretches of the imagination.

I aint the one trying to LOOK more Right . cause i aint the one pointing us to our own ways to attain anything .
I POINT US TO CHRIST . LET HIM GET THE GLORY epi , LET HIM GET THE GLORY .

 

[Episkopos]

You can’t call anything out as false prophets have no authority. They are their own authority which is why you never answer a direct question about the Bible or comment on a single scripture I post because you are incapable of refuting the truth from the scriptures I post.

hope this helps !!

You post the way the Pharisees questioned Jesus. You are only looking to condemn...insult...degrade and generally hate whatever speaks of the truth in a way that is an encouragement to the inner man. You have the spirit of Cain and Korah.

 

[ChristisGod]

Brute beasts...who speak without fear...who speak without knowledge, wisdom or any understanding. Who hide a seared conscience behind bible slogans. And you are their champion in all these things. Compromised by the flesh. Posturing to look more 'right" by vast stretches of the imagination.

more ad hominems just the opposite of the bible.


1 John 2
Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness. 10 Whoever loves his brother abides in the light, and in him there is no cause for stumbling. 11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks in the darkness, and does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded his eyes.

1 John 2
If you know that he is righteous, you may be sure that everyone who practices righteousness has been born of him.

1 John 3
Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness. 5 You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. 6 No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. 7 Little children, let no one deceive you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. 8 Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. 9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

1 John 4
If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. 21 And this commandment we have from him: whoever loves God must also love his brother.

1 John 5
Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God and obey his commandments. 3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments. And his commandments are not burdensome. 4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith

 

[ChristisGod]

I aint the one trying to LOOK more Right . cause i aint the one pointing us to our own ways to attain anything .
I POINT US TO CHRIST . LET HIM GET THE GLORY epi , LET HIM GET THE GLORY .

its the old ways of the pharisees with their self righteousness

 

[Episkopos]

I aint the one trying to LOOK more Right . cause i aint the one pointing us to our own ways to attain anything .
I POINT US TO CHRIST . LET HIM GET THE GLORY epi , LET HIM GET THE GLORY .

You need to GO to Christ. Go to the cross. You are here because you are crying inside for help. Don't just look for affirmation in the bible. Let the truth convict you...let the Spirit inside.

 

[amigo de christo]

This is just sad.

Then read hebrews . Paul said YE have come unto mount ZION , the heavenly jerusalem .
Then later says HERE we have no CONTINUING CITY , but we await ONE TO COME .
SEE , most folks cannot even recognize scriptures . What you call sad
IS actually TRUTH . Ponder on that for a bit . I often bring what paul and others wrote
but the thing is , some dont recognize it .

 

[ChristisGod]

You post the way the Pharisees questioned Jesus. You are only looking to condemn...insult...degrade and generally hate whatever speaks of the truth in a way that is an encouragement to the inner man. You have the spirit of Cain and Korah.

No that is your ego/pride talking as I'm friends with numerous posters here that don't agree with or see eye to eye on everything . Many are members and posters on my forum who are my friends. And unlike you I'm accountable with our pastors and elders in our church and the many mens discipleship groups I meet with weekly. So much for your false accusations. You are the lone ranger with no accountability, not me.

 

[Episkopos]

its the old ways of the pharisees with their self righteousness

Your cry for help is evident...your inner man is brutalized by that ugly spirit sitting on your outer man. Repent. Go to the cross. Have faith in God in the inner man. Say to that ugly spirit...NO...Resist the devil and he will flee.

You can do it. But you will need faith...the kind of faith that you have not yet exercised. Don't rely on religious beliefs. Don't rely on your own understanding. Reach out to God. Go to the cross. Don't go one more day with a religious imagination that stops you from life in God.

 

[ChristisGod]

You need to GO to Christ. Go to the cross. You are here because you are crying inside for help. Don't just look for affirmation in the bible. Let the truth convict you...let the Spirit inside.

You need to be born again.

 

[amigo de christo]

You need to GO to Christ. Go to the cross. You are here because you are crying inside for help. Don't just look for affirmation in the bible. Let the truth convict you...let the Spirit inside.

Why herein is a mystery . We have EPI telling me to GO to CHRIST
and yet what was it you said about other religoins again .............
YOU need to tell them TO COME TO FAITH IN CHRIST .
It sure seems you are pointing to another christ . one who denied the biblical one .
You know the one who said all who believe shall be saved but those who dont will be damned .
You need to preach BELIEVE YE IN CHRIST to those who dont . ONLY you and francis WONT DO that ,
cause that is RELIGIOUS DOGMA to you two . See the problem yet epi .
You tell one who preaches CHRIST and HIM crucified to GO TO your version of christ
and yet atheists , buddist , hindus and etc SEEM TO GET A PASS . Your own words epi .
You know and i know , i caught you trying to pass that mindset off the other day .
Its when all this began . You point to mans religoin to save
AS FOR ME I AM GONNA POINT TO FAITH IN CHRIST to SAVE .

 

[ChristisGod]

Your cry for help is evident...your inner man is brutalized by that ugly spirit sitting on your outer man. Repent. Go to the cross. Have faith in God in the inner man. Say to that ugly spirit...NO...Resist the devil and he will flee.

You can do it. But you will need faith...the kind of faith that you have not yet exercised. Don't rely on religious beliefs. Don't rely on your own understanding. Reach out to God. Go to the cross. Don't go one more day with a religious imagination that stops you from life in God.

more ad homs. your true self is shining through for all to see. you are alive to sin, not dead to sin- you need the new birth.

 

[Lizbeth]

You do realize an age ended and a new age began?

Yes indeed.

Speaking of new age, we need to also realize that there unfortunately is a new age version of Christianity out there that is leading to people saying they are Christ. Let me show this in scripture in case any here are believing in that, or are on the path to believing it. If it were possible even the very elect would be deceived.

When Jesus was asked what will be the sign of His coming and the end of the age, the very FIRST thing He warned His disciples to watch out for was this:


Mat 24:3-5

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.


Mar 13:3-6

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,

Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.


Luk 21:7-8

And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?

And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them.

Watch out for those false prophets and false Christs....it's a clever new age Christianity that is a clever and seductive counterfeit to the truth, and even accompanied by miracles as well.

 

[Waiting on him]

its why paul once wrote , BEHOLD i shew you a mystery . For now , by the SPIRIT the Kingdom is within us
but one day when this mortal shall have shed its mortal robe , corruption shall have put on incorruption .
We shall not all sleep , but we shall all be changed . Flesh and blood cannot inherit the KINGOM .
One day we gonna have new glorified bodies . TILL THEN the LORD is with us , but one day WE SHALL FOREVER BE WITH HIM
in a new home , a new earth , new heavens wherein dwells righteousness .
Till then we must travel through this old world , but are not OF IT , we are on a pilgrimage .
Let all that has breath praise the glorious Lord . at the end of our faith we shall forever be HOME
with HE who has saved us and kept us . PRAISE THE LORD and let none follow this other false all inclusive social gospel
WHICH I PROMISE IS NO GOSPEL . The GOSPEL POINTS TO JESUS CHRIST , not to man and his own way , BUT TO FAITH IN CHRIST

2 Corinthians 5:17 KJV
[17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
So I don’t get it are you saying one day you’ll be in Christ? A new creature?

How many times are the old things made new?

 

[Lizbeth]

Also if you want to play word twister johan is your guy.

Johan is not the one I've seen wresting scriptures around here.