2 Months and 1/2 Are Left Until the Two Witnesses of Revelation Appear

[Mr E]

After extensive research, I am happy to report that I have found the other witness. @gaviria.christian I can put you in touch with him.

I'm actually thinking of starting an online witness match-making site-- kind of like eharmony as a 'for-prophet' enterprise. What do you think? I'm offering this first match free, but from here forward I will expect payment in silver or gold, as I know you are low on cash and completely out of checks.

Meet Bill--

You can find him on another forum called TalkJesus.

The Lord's peace be always with you

I know there are many opinions of who or what the Witnesses are, and i think, understanding the fulness of Jesus can help us.

Jesus is more than just the flesh and blood. He is the "Word " imbedded into the 2 stone tablets given to Moses. Jesus was the " Rock " ( and life giving water ) that followed the Israelites in the desert. Jesus is the thoughts that inspire people to do great things in His name. And of course Jesus is God.

Jesus was also born, grew up, family, friends. Loved and was loved.
.......
So when we look at 'What' the Witnesses are. They are the Two Stones that held the Word of God. They Are the Lampstands, yet Jesus is the Fire they hold, "For All the World to See". They are the Servants of the Most High.

And like Jesus, they too, are born, have parents, family, friends, love and are loved.

They are hidden, or revealed, much in the same way thier Lord was. As we see in the scriptures, some knew of Jesus. Yet most did not. God reveals as He chooses.

For me, God allows me to share freely here.

Are they over 50? I am 64 now, how old the other is, i do not know.

Why we are hidden. Even here, who believes. Lol. I do not know who the other Witness is. But i know he is active. I felt his presence in all the Tornado's last week.

We are both human. And although i am not Elijah (the person) i do have the same type of spirit in me that he has.

I have been married for 33 years come May. I have 5 children and 5 grandchildren. My wife knows who i am.

I live in the USA, i can not say about the other Witness at this time. In many ways he is still hidden from me. And i am not looking.

If i tell you it was an easy road, then i would be lying. I had to learn to rely soley on God. To recognize His peace in my heart. To walk the path He prepared for me.

I hope this helps you.

Yes, i am One of the Two Witnesses.

 

[Wrangler]

Don't try to make it about me.

Your condemnations of the OP author has made this thread about you. Why don't you just humbly apologize for being arrogant and cruel to a Christ follower who has beliefs you don't share? WWJD?

 

[Mr E]

Your condemnations of the OP author has made this thread about you. Why don't you just humbly apologize for being arrogant and cruel to a Christ follower who has beliefs you don't share? WWJD?

Wrangler-- I don't dance a jig when you agree with me or appreciate things I post, nor do I get the vapors when you don't.

<move along little doggie> Happy Trails to you.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

After extensive research, I am happy to report that I have found the other witness. @gaviria.christian I can put you in touch with him.

I'm actually thinking of starting an online witness match-making site-- kind of like eharmony as a 'for-prophet' enterprise. What do you think? I'm offering this first match free, but from here forward I will expect payment in silver or gold, as I know you are low on cash and completely out of checks.

Meet Bill--

You can find him on another forum called TalkJesus.

The Lord's peace be always with you

I know there are many opinions of who or what the Witnesses are, and i think, understanding the fulness of Jesus can help us.

Jesus is more than just the flesh and blood. He is the "Word " imbedded into the 2 stone tablets given to Moses. Jesus was the " Rock " ( and life giving water ) that followed the Israelites in the desert. Jesus is the thoughts that inspire people to do great things in His name. And of course Jesus is God.

Jesus was also born, grew up, family, friends. Loved and was loved.
.......
So when we look at 'What' the Witnesses are. They are the Two Stones that held the Word of God. They Are the Lampstands, yet Jesus is the Fire they hold, "For All the World to See". They are the Servants of the Most High.

And like Jesus, they too, are born, have parents, family, friends, love and are loved.

They are hidden, or revealed, much in the same way thier Lord was. As we see in the scriptures, some knew of Jesus. Yet most did not. God reveals as He chooses.

For me, God allows me to share freely here.

Are they over 50? I am 64 now, how old the other is, i do not know.

Why we are hidden. Even here, who believes. Lol. I do not know who the other Witness is. But i know he is active. I felt his presence in all the Tornado's last week.

We are both human. And although i am not Elijah (the person) i do have the same type of spirit in me that he has.

I have been married for 33 years come May. I have 5 children and 5 grandchildren. My wife knows who i am.

I live in the USA, i can not say about the other Witness at this time. In many ways he is still hidden from me. And i am not looking.

If i tell you it was an easy road, then i would be lying. I had to learn to rely soley on God. To recognize His peace in my heart. To walk the path He prepared for me.

I hope this helps you.

Yes, i am One of the Two Witnesses.

You are spending lots of time trying to mock and slander gaviria.christian.

He never claimed to be one of the witnesses. Why do you imply he did and then lump me and other's into your false claims. He did not claim to be a prophet, just someone who spent lots of time trying to figure out how old the earth is and then trying to figure out the puzzle that everyone else is as well.
These are two of his quotes:
"Yet these are all just warning signs of what is about to come against the world, as we now approach the time of the two witnesses of Revelation. They will bring a global drought..."
"Last year in 2022 I stood in the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, in the morning of Nisan 15, knowing that exactly 1 year was left until the appearance of the two witnesses in Nisan 15 of 2023.
They will be telling you the same things I am telling you.

Frankly you are no better then him for making up something that is not true.
Just stop.

 

[ScottA]

After extensive research, I am happy to report that I have found the other witness. @gaviria.christian I can put you in touch with him.

I'm actually thinking of starting an online witness match-making site-- kind of like eharmony as a 'for-prophet' enterprise. What do you think? I'm offering this first match free, but from here forward I will expect payment in silver or gold, as I know you are low on cash and completely out of checks.

Meet Bill--

You can find him on another forum called TalkJesus.

The Lord's peace be always with you

I know there are many opinions of who or what the Witnesses are, and i think, understanding the fulness of Jesus can help us.

Jesus is more than just the flesh and blood. He is the "Word " imbedded into the 2 stone tablets given to Moses. Jesus was the " Rock " ( and life giving water ) that followed the Israelites in the desert. Jesus is the thoughts that inspire people to do great things in His name. And of course Jesus is God.

Jesus was also born, grew up, family, friends. Loved and was loved.
.......
So when we look at 'What' the Witnesses are. They are the Two Stones that held the Word of God. They Are the Lampstands, yet Jesus is the Fire they hold, "For All the World to See". They are the Servants of the Most High.

And like Jesus, they too, are born, have parents, family, friends, love and are loved.

They are hidden, or revealed, much in the same way thier Lord was. As we see in the scriptures, some knew of Jesus. Yet most did not. God reveals as He chooses.

For me, God allows me to share freely here.

Are they over 50? I am 64 now, how old the other is, i do not know.

Why we are hidden. Even here, who believes. Lol. I do not know who the other Witness is. But i know he is active. I felt his presence in all the Tornado's last week.

We are both human. And although i am not Elijah (the person) i do have the same type of spirit in me that he has.

I have been married for 33 years come May. I have 5 children and 5 grandchildren. My wife knows who i am.

I live in the USA, i can not say about the other Witness at this time. In many ways he is still hidden from me. And i am not looking.

If i tell you it was an easy road, then i would be lying. I had to learn to rely soley on God. To recognize His peace in my heart. To walk the path He prepared for me.

I hope this helps you.

Yes, i am One of the Two Witnesses.

He doesn't fit the "Bill." But maybe someone would like to name a star after him. Just a thought.

 

[Mr E]

You are spending lots of time trying to mock and slander gaviria.christian.

He never claimed to be one of the witnesses. Why do you imply he did and then lump me and other's into your false claims. He did not claim to be a prophet, just someone who spent lots of time trying to figure out how old the earth is and then trying to figure out the puzzle that everyone else is as well.
These are two of his quotes:
"Yet these are all just warning signs of what is about to come against the world, as we now approach the time of the two witnesses of Revelation. They will bring a global drought..."
"Last year in 2022 I stood in the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, in the morning of Nisan 15, knowing that exactly 1 year was left until the appearance of the two witnesses in Nisan 15 of 2023.
They will be telling you the same things I am telling you.

Frankly you are no better then him for making up something that is not true.
Just stop.

He literally went out and bought himself an outfit of sackcloth to wear.

And we all know you can't just return those.

Look. I know the cheerleaders are sad when their team loses. Maybe join the chess club. Something non-contact might suit you better.

 

[Mr E]

You are spending lots of time trying to mock and slander gaviria.christian.

He never claimed to be one of the witnesses. Why do you imply he did and then lump me and other's into your false claims. He did not claim to be a prophet, just someone who spent lots of time trying to figure out how old the earth is and then trying to figure out the puzzle that everyone else is as well.
These are two of his quotes:
"Yet these are all just warning signs of what is about to come against the world, as we now approach the time of the two witnesses of Revelation. They will bring a global drought..."
"Last year in 2022 I stood in the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem, in the morning of Nisan 15, knowing that exactly 1 year was left until the appearance of the two witnesses in Nisan 15 of 2023.
They will be telling you the same things I am telling you.

Frankly you are no better then him for making up something that is not true.
Just stop.

These are his words. It's much worse than a mere claim to be one of God's anointed. (Christ) It's actually more serious than that. He claims that God revealed this information to him. So of course @gaviria.christian wasn't wrong. God was.

Do you not grasp the gravity of his claim?

The time has come for me to set myself apart, which has come at a great cost to me. I have closed my business, which will result in millions of dollars in losses in annual revenue. But the reward I seek is far greater in value. I believe strongly in what I have studied and determined from the scriptures, which is why I am willing to sacrifice my business. This is not a rash decision, but it is based on extensive research I have done for over a decade, and truly we are approaching the year 6,000 in almost 3 and 1/2 years from now.

I hope my actions may serve as an example to the world and inspire others to also sacrifice and prepare and obey God. Although God has indeed given me much, I have also sacrificed much, and there is no one beside me to accompany in my journey to perfect obedience to the commands of God. I am alone in my journey, but I walk with confidence that God will reward me greatly for my sacrifice and my obedience and belief. I am ready, but my house is not ready. My contractors have failed me and have broken their contracts with me and have not delivered to me a finished house, which beforehand they had agreed to finish by this time. They will incur great financial losses, because their contracts have penalties written in them if they do not deliver to me a finished house by this time. And once I get rid of all money in a few days, what was paid was paid, and what was not paid was not paid. And what was finished was finished, and what was not finished was not finished. Some might become angry because of this, but they do not understand we are approaching the time of the two witnesses nor do they understand the necessity of obedience and the necessity of getting rid of money, and they foolishly thought it would be business as usual once Nisan 15 comes this year. They don’t even know what Nisan is nor they do know the appointed times of the Torah. They are completely ignorant and clueless.

But this is not what matters most, my obedience is what matters most. So I will nonetheless proceed forward with my plans with God quickly and hope for the best and just gratefully accept my house as is, because the appointed time has now arrived, as God has revealed to me.

Next week in Nisan 15 it will be the 1st day of the 1,260 days appointed for the two witnesses of Revelation. God willing, in this next shabbath, I will be entering into a covenant with God. It is a covenant of blood, which was shed almost 2,000 years ago. I will drink the wine representing the blood of Yeshua, and eat the bread representing his body. While first entering into perfect obedience to the commands of God in the Torah, and getting rid of all fiat currency. Then I will dry fast, without food and without water, for approximately 5 days. And I will go out and give food to the poor, and wash the feet of the homeless. And just like the disciples of Yeshua, I will then also wait for the anointing. Without the anointing I cannot do anything. But once the airflow of God enters my body, I will then receive instructions from the airflow as he speaks to me, and he will imbue me with power to perform miracles and to prophesy. And most importantly he will cut away the root of sin in my inner mind, and from then forward it will become impossible to sin again once I have been freed by the airflow. The role that God has chosen for me has not been revealed to me yet, although based on dreams and the knowledge and understanding that God has given me, I already suspect what that role will be. May God continue to favor my path, in the name of Yeshua.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

He literally went out and bought himself an outfit of sackcloth to wear.

And we all know you can't just return those.

Look. I know the cheerleaders are sad when their team loses. Maybe join the chess club. Something non-contact might suit you better.

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Sackcloth symbolizes submission, mourning, grief, humility. He'll be sympathizing for all the dead.

I really doubt fire will be coming out of his mouth. But this guy is equipped with weapons. Watch out he might come looking for you with a blow torch and when the police show up, he'll just say, It wasn't me, the two witnesses don't like mockers!

 

[Ronald D Milam]

I am familiar with this gap theory, a fabrication. Here"s mine:
490 years were derermined/ ordained by God, not 2490 years! He did not change His mind and insert a 2000 year gap. This prophecy was about the Messiah, the Jews and Jerusalem...

The problem is NOTHING FITS "your understanding" God lives in ALL TIME AT ONCE. He doesn't care what we think tbh. His Prophesies have to fit, only prophecy people not called unto prophecy would not understand, that those 6 goals have not yet come to fruition. God Himself stated Israel, in 70 AD was DEAD go read Ezekiel 37 and the Valley of Dry Bones Prophecy where Israel was DEAD BONES from 70 AD until 1948. God puts forth the Prophecy, not us men brother, we just have to follow His directives.

There is no "theory" its just factual prophecy. We get three Marker Points, the Wall, Jesus' Death AND the Anti-Christ & Israel's AGREEMENT (which will cover 7 years but probably is not a "7 year" plan per se) which starts the 70th week. You see, God knows that mankind has only 7 years left when Israel signs this Agreement (Israel joins the E.U.) Thus the 70th week is God showing us the last 7 years.

"To finish the transgression,

Israel has not finished their transgression, they have yet to repent for their sins as a Nation.

To make an end of sins,"
(For the believer, Jesus did.)

Now go back and read the first verse Prophesy again, these little tid-bits are VERY IMPORTANT.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

This Prophesy is specifically about Israel & Jerusalem, not "The Believer" in general. Israel has not yet repented, they will repent at the 1335, when the Two-witnesses show up. During the 70th week. So, Israel has to end this rejection of God/Jesus.

"To make reconciliation for iniquity,"
(He did - we have been reconciled and He offers that to the world)

Again, this is not about Jesus, REREAD ABOVE, 70 weeks are determined upon THE PEOPLE & CITY. It is not about WE...........it is only about Israel and Jerusalem. THY PEOPLE............&..............Jerusalem.

(He did - we have been reconciled and He offers that to the world)
"To bring in everlasting righteousness,"

This can't be a serious reply can it? This world is ruled by Satan, look around you, murder, mayhem, chaos, homosexual marriage, transgender indoctrination on elementary school children, hate, greed, lies, high minded arrogance, un-Godly men who think they are their own gods etc. etc. etc. This Prophetic Fulfillment must usher in "EVERLASYING RIGHTEOUSNESS by its fulfillment.

Jesus can not repent for Israel !! Only Israel can repent for Israel.

"To seal up vision and prophecy",
(His death and resurrection fulfilled prophecy and when He ascended into Heaven, He received the scroll which was sealed upon His ascension. So in heaven it is considered a done deal.)

No, prophecy has been ongoing for 2000 yeas since, everything that happens in these END TIMES are Prophecy being fulfilled, this Prophesy has not been SEALED UP, or closed up.

"And to anoint the Most Holy.'
(Jesus)

That only happens when Jesus rules from Jerusalem as the King of kings, you anoint the King with oil.

“Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks;"
(Jesus shows up after the 69 weeks, not during, but in the beginning of the 70th week.)

“And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;"
(After means in the 70th week)
"And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary."
(This is just an allusion to 70 AD, a parenthethical citation not within the 70 weeks timeline)
"The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined."
(Also alluding to the destruction /desolation of Jerusalem).
>>> (Now back to the Messiah, whom the whole context is about)
27 "Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;"
(Jesus brought the New Covenant in the 70th week)
"But in the middle of the week (70th)
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering."
(Jesus ended sacrifice and offering. He was the final sacrifice.)
"And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,"
(His torture and crucifixion was an abomination. He pronounced the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem. GOD destroyed Jerusalem. But we can also look at this symbolically as the Jews becoming spiritually desolate)
"Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”
(Another parenthetical citation referring to the spiritually desolate, (the Jews), who in the end times will receive the consummation - the Holy Spirit as stated in Rom.11.)

No, you simply misunderstand prophecy brother, after 62 weeks plus 7 weeks means after 62 weeks plus 7 not after 69 then add in a 1/2 week, why wasn't the wall 52 1/2 weeks ? LOL.

Dan. 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks(62 weeks EXPLAINED BELOW) : the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times(49 yrs)

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off(NOT after 62 1/2 weeks, that's nonsensical thinking brother, you are simply MAKING IT UP, and that is wrong), but not for himself:

THE PORTION BELOW should go with verse 27, the portion above should go with verse 25.

and the people(Romans in 70 AD) of the prince(End Time A.C.) that shall come(at the very end) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;(in 70 AD) and the end thereof shall be with a flood(Army floods in), and unto the end of the war desolations are determined(Israel will be desolate/the Diaspora).

27 And he(prince of the END TIME) shall confirm the covenant(Agreement) with many(with Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region) for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice(Jesus Worship) and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate(Anti-Christ), even until the consummation(70th week ends), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate(until Judgment Ends).

Jesus is KILLED after 7 weeks and 62 weeks or after 69 weeks which = 483 years, leaving 7 years on Israel term of Judgment. The last 7 years MUST bring Israel unto repentance. Jesus dies after exactly 69 weeks, he was 30-33 so that s four weeks, people who try to say Jesus dies in the middle of the 70th week should really just quit trying to teach prophecy, just being honest, it is a nonsensical position.

God Bless

 

[Wrangler]

Wrangler-- I don't dance a jig when you agree with me or appreciate things I post, nor do I get the vapors when you don't.

It’s not about me. However, you certainly have taken this prediction of the future personally.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

The problem is NOTHING FITS "your understanding" God lives in ALL TIME AT ONCE. He doesn't care what we think tbh. His Prophesies have to fit, only prophecy people not called unto prophecy would not understand, that those 6 goals have not yet come to fruition. God Himself stated Israel, in 70 AD was DEAD go read Ezekiel 37 and the Valley of Dry Bones Prophecy where Israel was DEAD BONES from 70 AD until 1948. God puts forth the Prophecy, not us men brother, we just have to follow His directives.

There is no "theory" its just factual prophecy. We get three Marker Points, the Wall, Jesus' Death AND the Anti-Christ & Israel's AGREEMENT (which will cover 7 years but probably is not a "7 year" plan per se) which starts the 70th week. You see, God knows that mankind has only 7 years left when Israel signs this Agreement (Israel joins the E.U.) Thus the 70th week is God showing us the last 7 years.


Israel has not finished their transgression, they have yet to repent for their sins as a Nation.


Now go back and read the first verse Prophesy again, these little tid-bits are VERY IMPORTANT.

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

This Prophesy is specifically about Israel & Jerusalem, not "The Believer" in general. Israel has not yet repented, they will repent at the 1335, when the Two-witnesses show up. During the 70th week. So, Israel has to end this rejection of God/Jesus.


Again, this is not about Jesus, REREAD ABOVE, 70 weeks are determined upon THE PEOPLE & CITY. It is not about WE...........it is only about Israel and Jerusalem. THY PEOPLE............&..............Jerusalem.


This can't be a serious reply can it? This world is ruled by Satan, look around you, murder, mayhem, chaos, homosexual marriage, transgender indoctrination on elementary school children, hate, greed, lies, high minded arrogance, un-Godly men who think they are their own gods etc. etc. etc. This Prophetic Fulfillment must usher in "EVERLASYING RIGHTEOUSNESS by its fulfillment.

Jesus can not repent for Israel !! Only Israel can repent for Israel.


No, prophecy has been ongoing for 2000 yeas since, everything that happens in these END TIMES are Prophecy being fulfilled, this Prophesy has not been SEALED UP, or closed up.


That only happens when Jesus rules from Jerusalem as the King of kings, you anoint the King with oil.


No, you simply misunderstand prophecy brother, after 62 weeks plus 7 weeks means after 62 weeks plus 7 not after 69 then add in a 1/2 week, why wasn't the wall 52 1/2 weeks ? LOL.

Dan. 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks(62 weeks EXPLAINED BELOW) : the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times(49 yrs)

26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off(NOT after 62 1/2 weeks, that's nonsensical thinking brother, you are simply MAKING IT UP, and that is wrong), but not for himself:

THE PORTION BELOW should go with verse 27, the portion above should go with verse 25.

and the people(Romans in 70 AD) of the prince(End Time A.C.) that shall come(at the very end) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary;(in 70 AD) and the end thereof shall be with a flood(Army floods in), and unto the end of the war desolations are determined(Israel will be desolate/the Diaspora).

27 And he(prince of the END TIME) shall confirm the covenant(Agreement) with many(with Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region) for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice(Jesus Worship) and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate(Anti-Christ), even until the consummation(70th week ends), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate(until Judgment Ends).

Jesus is KILLED after 7 weeks and 62 weeks or after 69 weeks which = 483 years, leaving 7 years on Israel term of Judgment. The last 7 years MUST bring Israel unto repentance. Jesus dies after exactly 69 weeks, he was 30-33 so that s four weeks, people who try to say Jesus dies in the middle of the 70th week should really just quit trying to teach prophecy, just being honest, it is a nonsensical position.

God Bless

Excuse me, but there are several scholarly views if Daniel's 70 Weeks. It is one of the most difficult prophecies and controversial. The Dispensational view, the Gap theory, is just one. Some of my favorite teachers believe it. I'll go with what God determined, the historical view imho, a precise time frame, not man's alteration. This prophecy was about Jesus First Coming, His sheep and an allusion to Jerusalem's destruction, not the end of the world. God gave us plenty in Revelation and other texts. Daniel 12 is for sure.
So we'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[ButterflyJones]

Has anyone heard about the CERN company? It's said Geneva is Satan's earthly home. And CERN,located there, is the creator of the Hadron collider whose logo contains 3 interlocking 6's.

 

[Illuminator]

The earth will vaporize when the sun goes nova in about 5 billion years,
And Jesus will return at the end of human history.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Wow!

Sad how God words divide those who follow Christ.

A lesson of math AND reading comprehension. 1 is BOTH less than 2 AND less than 3. To say AFTER 69 may also be AFTER 69 1/2. To say Jesus rose AFTER 3 days is not the same as ON the 3rd day. Having said all that, I'm not sure what such mathematical precision has to do with the price of tea in China.

You don't understand this prophecy brother, you read a person, who also did not understand this prophecy from long ago and made up this wild untruth, because he either heard Satan whisper a lie, or made it up himself. This bunk has been around many, many, many years before you were on this earth.

The Wall was finished after 49 Years (Marker #1). Jesus was made the Sacrifice or cut-off (died) after 62 weeks of heptads. Thus we had the 7 weeks and 62 weeks and Jesus was cut off(Marker #2) or died after 483 years. So, when is the Covenant made by the Anti-Christ? at the BEGINNING of the 70th week, the Covenant is not Jesus, you guys are so lost its very worrying tbh. The word Covenant in Hebrew simply means Agreement. The End Time A.C. makes a Covenant/Agreement with Israel(Marker #3).

So, how does it fit the TIMELINE? Easy, it is God's timeline in juxtaposition unto Israel, not unto the world, go read it again, the Decree is a DETERMINATION unto the people (Israel) and the city (Jerusalem), thus this judgment is only pertaining unto Israel/Jerusalem/the peoples. So, can we follow God's timeline? Yes.

Israel was placed in punishment into Babylon because they did not keep the Sabbath every 7 years on the land, and thus sinned against God, they owed God 70 Sabbath Years out of 490 years where they never kept the Sabbath year. But once in Babylon they still did not repent, they loved Babylon and wanted to stay there. So, as Daniel was reading the book of Jeremiah in the 67th year of Israel's captivity, Gabriel came unto him and stated that the 70 years would now be 490 years or 70 x 7 as the Law of Moses mandates for further disobedience. So, Israel had a sentence of judgment placed against them, now below is not only the 70 years of Judgment against Israel, but the 4 (5) Beast Kingdoms who rule over Israel. This shows why you guys can not get this prophecy, you think like men, but God thinks in a different manner.

Israel was a nation From Abraham, to Moses, from Joshua to David, then they got toted off for 70 years. God gives Israel back their Nation with a judgment decree against them of 70 sevens of heptads (490 yrs)

So, from the time Israel are freed until the Walls/Jerusalem is rebuilt was 49 years. Then from that time until Jesus was cut-off (died) was 62 weeks or 434 years. 434 + 49 = 483 years in total. Then God rent the temple into, he rejected those who rejected Him/Jesus, he foretold this in Ezekiel 37s Valley of Dry Bones Prophesy. God stated in Ezekiel 37 that he would turn His back on Israel until the very end of time, then at that point in time He would raise up those Dead Dry Bones and put life back into those bones.

Thus, from 33 AD or so, after Jesus' death, until 1948 God saw Israel as Dead Men's Bones. There was no Israel according to God, yet you guys are like, THERE IS NO GAP, THERE IS NO GAP. Correct, God gave Israel a 490 year Decree of Judgment, 483 came to pass, then Israel was no more, and the last 7 years of Judgment only kicks off when Israel enjoins itself into an Agreement that sees them give away their Sovereignty(land) by agreeing to become a part of the E.U. that is what kicks off the last 7 years of Judgment against Israel. You, and others can't seem to grasp that God Himself stated Israel was DEAD from 33 AD until 1948. That is on you guys, not God who is very, VERY CLEAR, this 490 years of Judgment is all about Israel, not this world !!

So, are the Four Beasts of Daniel also separated by this same near 2000 year Death of Israel? Yes. We had Babylon, followed by Persia, then Greece, and finally Rome who were the Beast when Israel ceased being a nation unto God. And God thus allowed them to be toted off unto the ends of the whole world. Then in 1948 God raised up Israel again, now and only NOW can the 5th Beast arise, who arises out of the old Fourth Beasts Head via the 10 (Complete Europe Reunited) kings. Thus only when Israel gets CONQUERED can the Last Beast (Anti-Christ) arise again, the Mortal Wound was Rome long, long ago.

Thus Rome when Israel(when they rejected Jesus) died looked like this map below.



Now the Anti-Christs territory on a map when the E.U. conquers Israel and THE MANY in Dan. 11:40-43



The are exactly the same on a map, all that Separates these 2 Beasts are 2000 years of Israel not being a Nation that can be Conquered because there was no Israel from 70 AD until 1948.

Your whole thought process leaves out what God Almighty told us, Israel were DEAD !! Thus there could be no 70th week Decree/Judgment on them, nor could there be a Beast Kingdom over them !! Once you finally get that you might just come to understand God doesn't see things as men do.

Not bickering, just trying to get God people to understand what is coming very soon. God Bless.

 

[Wrangler]

You don't understand this prophecy brother

Agreed.

I'm not really too much into prophecy. My point is not about prophecy but brothers letting things divide them.

 

[Wrangler]

get God people to understand what is coming very soon.

1. WHAT specifically is coming?
2. WHEN is "very soon?"

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

The earth will vaporize when the sun goes nova in about 5 billion years,
And Jesus will return at the end of human history.

Lol. That theory cannot conform to what the Bible says. The universe was made for us. It serves a temporal purpose. Life on earth requires the sun, moon and stars until we are all translated, then God will destroy the first heavens and the first earth likely in a little more than 1000 years, when this happens: 2 Peter 3:10.
And "all former things will pass away".

According to scripture, the earth was made first, then the sun, moon and stars on the 4th day, about 6000 years ago.
But of course not everyone believes that. Some Christians (probably half) factor in this Theistic Evolution to their belief system, which includes the old earth theory.

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

1. WHAT specifically is coming?
2. WHEN is "very soon?"

The Dragon!

 

[Ronald David Bruno]

Has anyone heard about the CERN company? It's said Geneva is Satan's earthly home. And CERN,located there, is the creator of the Hadron collider whose logo contains 3 interlocking 6's.

First I've heard of that. The work and technology that went into that machine is mind boggling. Just to discover a sub-atomic particle? Well, not only. Last year they were delving into dark matter.
Anyways, Satan's thronebwas in Pergamon, present day Bergama Turkey. The relics of his alter was transported to Berlin in the 19th century.

Satan’s Throne

www.baslibrary.org

His end time throne will be wherever Antichrist sets up shop. ?
Something cane to mind though when I read your post. Maybe this machine will resonate with the new 5G phones and pull all those who have one into a black hole? Just kidding.

 

[Ronald D Milam]

Agreed.

I'm not really too much into prophecy. My point is not about prophecy but brothers letting things divide them.

Well, to a degree I agree but when things are taught that will cost lives, then the division is warranted. You see, with these false post trib and mid trib fictionalized tales, young men and woman are going to wind up in hell who might have wound up in Heaven, and that irks me to no end, especially when told by men not called unto Prophecy (not saying that is your belief, I do not know your belief on that) You see, most young people will hear "Well everyone has to go through the Tribulation anyway" and think, well heck, if I have to go through the tribulation period, I might as well wait until then to repent, because I am going to be tried anyway, which of course is just fiction. Pssttt, when a lot of those young men and women miss the Rapture, they will be doomed to hell, they can't even resist a friends peer pressure, they are not going to be able to die for Jesus' name. And Satan knows all of the tricks, he will bring their mom, dad or boyfriend/girlfriend into a room, say, reject Christ and accept the Mark of the Beast or I will kill them, and of course they will in most cases relent. So, them being told the false narrative about the Rapture will doom most of them to hellfire. And that will be on those who did not preach the facts unto them, repent now and God will call you home via Christs Bride just before the 70th week known as Jacob's Troubles.

1. WHAT specifically is coming?
2. WHEN is "very soon?"

Apophis will be the Day of the Lord (God's Wrath) and it will hit on April 13, 2029. Thus the Pre Trib Rapture has to take place at least 3.5 years before the Middle of the 70th week events (Apophis/DOTL). Thus the Rapture can be no later than the Fall of 2025, it could be sooner, but no later than that.

The Dragon is cast down to earth as Apophis hits on day 1260. (Middle of the week/DOTL events)