Jesus returns, Jesus judges, the good inherit the earth, and the bad are sent to Hell "age-during"

[Patrick1966]

Yes, and what if someone refuses to do that and then they die? They will be resurrected later and forced to do that eventually and then will be saved? Is that what you think? Scripture never teaches such a thing.

What does this mean to you?

Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

 

[Patrick1966]

Do you believe Satan and the fallen angels will be forgiven also?

Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

 

[Patrick1966]

The unsaved people of this world will also not be saved, but will also be destroyed but no life in the new Earth for them.

Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

 

[Patrick1966]

this is heresy you are teaching.

On the contrary.

Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

 

[WPM]

On the contrary.

Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Man can willingly bow the knee to Christ in this life and experience eternal life, or they can be required to do it on judgment day and face a lost eternity of eternal punishment. This is simple for those who have eyes to see.

 

[Patrick1966]

Man can willingly bow the knee to Christ in this life and experience eternal life, or they can be required to do it on judgment day and face a lost eternity of eternal punishment. This is simple for those who have eyes to see.

In other words, you once again reject God's words.

 

[Zao is life]

Question. Since the bad people are sent to Hell for the remainder of the age mentioned in Matthew 25, why then would they later be resurrected only to be damned again?

Matthew 25:31-46 YLT

Matthew 25:31-46​

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Young's Literal Translation​

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31 `And whenever the Son of Man may come in his glory, and all the holy messengers with him, then he shall sit upon a throne of his glory;
32 and gathered together before him shall be all the nations, and he shall separate them from one another, as the shepherd doth separate the sheep from the goats,
33 and he shall set the sheep indeed on his right hand, and the goats on the left.
34 `Then shall the king say to those on his right hand, Come ye, the blessed of my Father, inherit the reign that hath been prepared for you from the foundation of the world;
35 for I did hunger, and ye gave me to eat; I did thirst, and ye gave me to drink; I was a stranger, and ye received me;
36 naked, and ye put around me; I was infirm, and ye looked after me; in prison I was, and ye came unto me.
37 `Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when did we see thee hungering, and we nourished? or thirsting, and we gave to drink?
38 and when did we see thee a stranger, and we received? or naked, and we put around?
39 and when did we see thee infirm, or in prison, and we came unto thee?
40 `And the king answering, shall say to them, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] to one of these my brethren -- the least -- to me ye did [it].
41 Then shall he say also to those on the left hand, Go ye from me, the cursed, to the fire, the age-during, that hath been prepared for the Devil and his messengers;
42 for I did hunger, and ye gave me not to eat; I did thirst, and ye gave me not to drink;
43 a stranger I was, and ye did not receive me; naked, and ye put not around me; infirm, and in prison, and ye did not look after me.
44 `Then shall they answer, they also, saying, Lord, when did we see thee hungering, or thirsting, or a stranger, or naked, or infirm, or in prison, and we did not minister to thee?
45 `Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as ye did [it] not to one of these, the least, ye did [it] not to me.
46 And these shall go away to punishment age-during, but the righteous to life age-during.'

I don't claim that I can interpret every passage of scripture correctly but I don't know if it's talking about the unsaved nations because it has a lot to do with how those calling Jesus Lord were treating "the brethren":

Galatians 5:22-23 Fruit of the Spirit - definition.
John 6:28-29 Work of God. One commandment only.
John 13:34-35 Love one another (fruit of faith).
1 John 3:23-24 Believe on Jesus and love one another (fruit of faith). One commandment only.
1 John 3:16-18 What loving the brethren is (fruit of faith), and what it is not. Same words in James and Matthew as in the verses below:
James 2:14-17 What loving the brethren is (fruit of faith), and what it is not.
Matthew 25:34-36 What loving loving the brethren is (fruit of faith), and what it is not. Same words in John and James as above.
John 15:4-6 Key word: Abide. (How to produce the fruit of the Spirit).
1 John 3:6 Key word: Abide. (How to produce the fruit of the Spirit).

So that age-during translation may be correct, but I honestly don't know whether the passage you quote is talking about the nations or the saints in the nations who are found in all nations.

 

[WPM]

In other words, you once again reject God's words.

No, I reject your twisting of God's Word to support your heresy. You are yet to show what you claim. That is because it is an invention in your head.

When wicked men are forced to bow the knee before Christ on judgment day, it is too late. Your liberal humanistic heresy will go up in a puff of smoke.

 

[Patrick1966]

No, I reject your twisting of God's Word to support your heresy. You are yet to show what you claim. That is because it is an invention in your head.

When wicked men are forced to bow the knee before Christ on judgment day, it is too late. Your liberal humanistic heresy will go up in a puff of smoke.

The teachings are very clear. I'm not "twisting" anything. They say what they say. You cannot admit that your understanding is mistaken because you are full of yourself and your ego, pride, and vanity won't permit you to become detached from your misunderstanding. On top of that, you accuse me of being a wicked heretic when it is YOU that is teaching a false doctrine and smearing God's good name.

 

[Zao is life]

No, I reject your twisting of God's Word to support your heresy. You are yet to show what you claim. That is because it is an invention in your head.

When wicked men are forced to bow the knee before Christ on judgment day, it is too late. Your liberal humanistic heresy will go up in a puff of smoke.

Copied and pasted from my thread to his thread did you? Wording almost exactly the same. Copied and pasted insults and slurs from your treasure house of stored posts with insults and slurs?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

What does this mean to you?

Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

The context of those passages is completely different.

Romans 10:9-10 applies to people while they are still alive (before they die). Philippians 2:10-11 is referring to something that will occur on the day of judgment after the dead have been resurrected. While even unbelievers will be unable to deny that Jesus Christ is Lord at that point (how could they after seeing Him in all His glory?), that does not mean they will be saved as a result. Faith is required for salvation. Faith while a person is still alive. It won't take any faith for people to acknowledge Jesus Christ as Lord at that point when all are gathered before Him and bow to Him because it will be obvious since He will appear in all of His glory at that time.

 

[WPM]

Copied and pasted from my thread to his thread did you? Wording almost exactly the same. Copied and pasted insults and slurs from your treasure house of stored posts with insults and slurs?

What are you talking about? From where? About what? You are as clear as mud.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Copied and pasted from my thread to his thread did you? Wording almost exactly the same. Copied and pasted insults and slurs from your treasure house of stored posts with insults and slurs?

What is wrong with you? He wasn't even talking to you there, so who cares if he copied and pasted something? What difference does that make? Are you okay with someone promoting universal salvation on this forum?

 

[WPM]

What is wrong with you? He wasn't even talking to you there, so who cares if he copied and pasted something? What difference does that make? Are you okay with someone promoting universal salvation on this forum?

Exactly! I was just thinking before you said that: why is it that Premils never take the battle up against heresy? It is always left to Amils.

 

[Truth7t7]

No, I reject your twisting of God's Word to support your heresy. You are yet to show what you claim. That is because it is an invention in your head.

When wicked men are forced to bow the knee before Christ on judgment day, it is too late. Your liberal humanistic heresy will go up in a puff of smoke.

Exactly Correct!

The false doctrine of "Universalism" comes from the Unitarian Church, the place where same sex union ceremonies first took place in Santa Monica Ca, in 1957, San Francisco CA, 1958, Sodom and Gomorrah, A Puff Of Smoke, Fire And Brimstone Is 100% Correct!

 

[Zao is life]

What is wrong with you? He wasn't even talking to you there, so who cares if he copied and pasted something? What difference does that make? Are you okay with someone promoting universal salvation on this forum?

Or, for that matter, promoting the false notion of a spiritual "resurrection" from a "spiritual grave"?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Exactly! I was just thinking before you said that: why is it that Premils never take the battle up against heresy? It is always left to Amils.

That has been the case repeatedly including when we had heretics on here denying the deity of Christ awhile back. Premils didn't say a peep about it because it was other Premils who had that heretical belief. They make their belief in Premil more important than any other doctrine, which is disturbing. It's to the point that they don't care what else a person believes as long as they believe in Premil. That's how it comes across, at least.

 

[Truth7t7]

The teachings are very clear. I'm not "twisting" anything. They say what they say. You cannot admit that your understanding is mistaken because you are full of yourself and your ego, pride, and vanity won't permit you to become detached from your misunderstanding. On top of that, you accuse me of being a wicked heretic when it is YOU that is teaching a false doctrine and smearing God's good name.

Do you support

1.) Same Sex Marriage?

2.) Abortion On Demand?

 

[Patrick1966]

Philippians 2:10-11 so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Romans 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

You don't want to answer @Truth7t7 ? Why not? It's more important to be right than it is to tell the truth, correct?

 

[Patrick1966]

Do you support

1.) Same Sex Marriage?

2.) Abortion On Demand?

No to both.