Israel and Satan

[Keiw]

So you're better than all the Jews?

The Jews stand in opposition to Gods son. They have never done Matt 23:39--thus remain cut off- Matt 23:38. A new religion began back then-Acts 24:5--Those serve the God of Israel=YHWH(Jehovah) and accept Jesus as the one sent forth= the messiah=Gods son.

 

[Keiw]

that is the generic antichrist. But there is a specific antichrist. He is also known as the abomination of desolation, man of lawlessness. the beast with 7 heads and ten horns, the eleventh horn, the eighth king, son of perdition, the beast.

Also John says this:

1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

That first mention of antichrist is nominative singular and masculine. so the bible as written says there is a man who is called ANTICHRIST.

The beast is a govt coalition. Horns = kingdoms. The eighth king- the united nations. The 2 horned beast = the eagle-lion.
The bible says its the number of a man-number is the key word not man.

 

[Bob Estey]

The Jews stand in opposition to Gods son. They have never done Matt 23:39--thus remain cut off- Matt 23:38. A new religion began back then-Acts 24:5--Those serve the God of Israel=YHWH(Jehovah) and accept Jesus as the one sent forth= the messiah=Gods son.

It appears to me the Jews and Christians worship the same God.

 

[BlessedPeace]

Why would Omniscient God send himself only unto the lost sheep of the house of Jacob, Israel, knowing they would rebuff him as their long awaited Messiah?

And then, after they conspired to have Rome execute him, Gentile believers in that rebuffed Jewish Messiah would be saved if they believe he came to save the world,except for the Jews who rebuffed him,from their sins?

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

It appears to me the Jews and Christians worship the same God.

The Jews are clear on this back in the days, that one could not mention God ? for they did not know him.

Now regarding Jesus, he is Gods only begotten Son ! and no one can come to the Father but through his only Begotten Son ! That's a fact !
Now Holy Moses said of the one who was to come ? That was Jesus Salvation ! for he is the Christ !

Now Jesus says that he is the Alpha and the Omega ! so in the beginning he was ! as he will be in the end ! for he is also the Holy Spirit and we see in the OT that some people were with God. Worthy of God, Moses etc for they lead the way the path.

 

[Keiw]

It appears to me the Jews and Christians worship the same God.

The Abrahamic God= a single being God=YHWH(Jehovah)--thus hundreds of religions claiming to be christian are being mislead into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily by worshipping a non existent trinity created by these-2Thess 2:3 at their councils back in the 300,s.
They have become-a house divided, they will not stand. You are correct, the true christians serve the God of Israel. Correctly though, Israel does not.

 

[Bob Estey]

The Jews are clear on this back in the days, that one could not mention God ? for they did not know him.

Now regarding Jesus, he is Gods only begotten Son ! and no one can come to the Father but through his only Begotten Son ! That's a fact !
Now Holy Moses said of the one who was to come ? That was Jesus Salvation ! for he is the Christ !

Now Jesus says that he is the Alpha and the Omega ! so in the beginning he was ! as he will be in the end ! for he is also the Holy Spirit and we see in the OT that some people were with God. Worthy of God, Moses etc for they lead the way the path.

One can't mention God? I'm sure they mention God all the time, especially in their places of worship.

 

[Keiw]

The Jews are clear on this back in the days, that one could not mention God ? for they did not know him.

Now regarding Jesus, he is Gods only begotten Son ! and no one can come to the Father but through his only Begotten Son ! That's a fact !
Now Holy Moses said of the one who was to come ? That was Jesus Salvation ! for he is the Christ !

Now Jesus says that he is the Alpha and the Omega ! so in the beginning he was ! as he will be in the end ! for he is also the Holy Spirit and we see in the OT that some people were with God. Worthy of God, Moses etc for they lead the way the path.

The holy spirt descended from heaven after Jesus was baptized, so no he is not the HS. The HS is not a living being. Its Gods active force.
Jesus has a God, just like we do-John 20:17, Rev 3:12---God does not have a God.

 

[Bob Estey]

The Abrahamic God= a single being God=YHWH(Jehovah)--thus hundreds of religions claiming to be christian are being mislead into breaking Gods #1 commandment daily by worshipping a non existent trinity created by these-2Thess 2:3 at their councils back in the 300,s.
They have become-a house divided, they will not stand. You are correct, the true christians serve the God of Israel. Correctly though, Israel does not.

You said the Jews worship Jehovah. Who are they supposed to worship?

 

[I'm Sorry Lord God]

1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

Matthew 8:11-12
And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

1 John 2:22-23
Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

While Christianity recognizes the Hebrew Bible (called the Old Testament by Christians) as part of its scriptural canon, Judaism does not recognize the Christian New Testament. The relative importance of belief and practice constitute an important area of difference.

Muslims believe that Jesus (called “Isa” in Arabic) was a prophet of God and was born to a virgin (Mary). They also believe he will return to Earth before the Day of Judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal, or “the false messiah” — also known as the Antichrist.

Didn't they both deny Christ? Isn't it clear, then, who is of the devil and who isn't? But should we despise them as Christians?
I'll just remind you because I'm sure you already know these things better than I do.

Matthew 5:43-45
Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

 

[quietthinker]

Satan rules the world (1 John 5:19), so we all knew that as soon as Israel tried to defend itself from Hamas, the world would accuse Israel of atrocities.

....and the world would be right!

 

[Bob Estey]

....and the world would be right!

I don't think defending themselves is an atrocity.

The Jews needed a safe place to live after Hitler had six million of them murdered in the 1930's and 1940's, so it was decided they should live in Palestine, which God had given to them as an everlasting possession (Genesis 17:8). Ever since, Palestinians have been trying to drive them out, culminating with the recent murder of 1300 more Jews and taking of more than 100 hostages.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The beast is a govt coalition. Horns = kingdoms. The eighth king- the united nations. The 2 horned beast = the eagle-lion.
The bible says its the number of a man-number is the key word not man.

That is what you think, but the bible says differently!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The beast is a govt coalition. Horns = kingdoms.

From Daniel 7:

17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

I think god knows far better than us how to write carefully and correctly and does not need us to edit HIs "mistakes". If He said they are ten kings and the eleventh is another king- We should listen to HIm and not some supposed teachers who reinterpret the Word of God implying god made a mistake.

 

[Keiw]

You said the Jews worship Jehovah. Who are they supposed to worship?

They do worship Jehovah, but they reject the Messiah.

 

[Keiw]

That is what you think, but the bible says differently!

where?

 

[Bob Estey]

They do worship Jehovah, but they reject the Messiah.

Jesus told us to worship Jehovah, but the Jews were already worshiping Jehovah.

 

[Keiw]

From Daniel 7:

17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.

25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

I think god knows far better than us how to write carefully and correctly and does not need us to edit HIs "mistakes". If He said they are ten kings and the eleventh is another king- We should listen to HIm and not some supposed teachers who reinterpret the Word of God implying god made a mistake.

kings represent kingdoms--10 kings-a place where kingdoms gather. God didn't make a mistake-99% of religions claiming to be christian have because they lack holy spirit and are not getting guided into all truth like Jesus promised to his teachers in the single religion he began.
The great beasts are world powers= govt. a 2 horned beast( the final world power) -= 2 govts( kingdoms) working together-Eagle-lion.
This world is so blind Rev 16 will occur-EVERY kingdom( govt, armies, supporters) on earth will be mislead into standing in opposition to Gods king. Jesus will crush every one of them off of Gods earth forever( Daniel 2:44) at Armageddon. They are mislead now as well, these last days are almost done.

 

[Keiw]

Jesus told us to worship Jehovah, but the Jews were already worshiping Jehovah.

And Jesus told Israel they MUST do verse 39 at Matt 23 after he told them off, he assured all listening to them will not enter Gods kingdom, they are cut off as Gods chosen verse 38)-- the renting of the banner the moment Jesus died signified that fact-God cut them off, it was the last straw. Lovingly the door is left open- 23:39--they won't. They would have to admit they sent Gods son to his death. Jesus started a new religion, they must go there. Its Gods will.

 

[Bob Estey]

And Jesus told Israel they MUST do verse 39 at Matt 23 after he told them off, he assured all listening to them will not enter Gods kingdom, they are cut off as Gods chosen verse 38)-- the renting of the banner the moment Jesus died signified that fact-God cut them off, it was the last straw. Lovingly the door is left open- 23:39--they won't. They would have to admit they sent Gods son to his death. Jesus started a new religion, they must go there. Its Gods will.

What did Jesus say about judging others?