You also asked me if God is a person and I asked you if the painting doesn’t present / represent God as a person.
I don’t insist that what it states is not true. I insist that what it states is true.
Does God need man?
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You also asked me if God is a person and I asked you if the painting doesn’t present / represent God as a person.
I don’t insist that what it states is not true. I insist that what it states is true.
BlessedPeace
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OK.
No, you didn't.
"God is man? I don’t think so.
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Jesus is theos and anthropos."
Jesus was ,is,God. God,The Word, became flesh,the man Jesus,and dwelt among us.
What, "other faith" do you follow?
There is a difference between God and man.
Jesus is God and man.
See above.
I’m a Primitive / Ante-Nicene Christian.
I voluntarily changed my registration from “Christian” to “Other faith” a few months after joining in response to complaints made by some Nicene Creed affirming Christians who insisted that I shouldn’t be allowed to post on Christianity Board. I proposed a creative solution, publicly discussed it with board moderators and they accepted / approved my proposal.
It seems to have worked well for all concerned. I forfeited my posting privileges in forums marked “Christian only” for the sake of other Christians. I don’t seek them out; they’re free and welcome to seek me out if they want to discuss anything with me. That’s a win-win proposition.
BlessedPeace
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So,contrary to your reply, you actually had no issue with my initial post.
Thanks for the explanation.
I have no issue with others agreeing or disagreeing with me, and vice versa.
Why do you think I’m here?
You’re welcome.
I’ve dealt with the no, now I’ll deal with the yes.
”Then the LORD said to Moses, ‘See, I make you [as] God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.’”
(Exodus 7:1, NASB)
The translators have placed the word “as” in brackets. It is added to the text by the translators in order to make the meaning clear to the reader.
Let’s take it out:
”Then the LORD said to Moses, ‘See, I make you God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron shall be your prophet.’”
Moses, a man, is God to another man, Pharaoh, by an act of God.
“God is man.”
Yes -> functionally, representationally; not literally.
Moses is man.
God is Moses?
No. And yes. A qualified yes, if you prefer.
I don't see it that way Matthias. It's not "a need" that He has, rather-- it's the reality that exists. Man is, because God is.
You don't "need" your reflection, in the sense that you just couldn't live without it.... yet your reflection appears every time you step in front of a mirror and your reflection is a valuable way for you to examine yourself.
It's kind of like that.
Pretty cool that God can use a man without needing a man to use to accomplish his purpose in using a man.
Not to divert too far afield but there is a theology which posits that God himself needed to become a man in order to understand and save man.
Again, it has nothing to do with need, beyond desire. If you desire something, do you automatically need it?
Most good parents teach their kids the difference between wants and needs.
I fundamentally disagree with your premise.
I would have given the same answers not long ago myself. In the process of seriously reconsidering the question of why God allows evil, I’ve made a slight revision in my thinking.*
It’s difficult for man to consider that God could need something in order to do something. We’re reluctant to think about God in such a rational way. Why? Perhaps out of fear that by doing so we would somehow be reducing him, and angering him in the process. (No one wants that.)
It’s rational to think that God needs man, to have joy of his creation. The logic is sound and reasonable.
* How many times do we hear people complain in frustration that no one posting on internet discussion forums ever changes their mind? And when someone actually does? Well, “They jolly well better believe what I believe on the rare occasion they have a change of mind!“ Such is the arrogance of man.
I was thinking about this recently. For the salvation of man, perhaps God needs people to serve him. Are we needed in God's service? I might think so. Also we are clearly expendable. Hmmm.
Most people probably won’t give it a second thought. No matter what conclusion you may come to, I think it’s good to think about it.
I see balance in your thinking. That was lacking in the thinking of some of the Pharisees (i.e. those among them who rejected Jesus as the messiah promised and raised up by God.)
”And do not presume to say to yourselves, ‘We have Abraham as our father,’ for I tell you, God is able from these stones to raise up children for Abraham.”
(Matthew 3:9, ESV)
God needs man if he wants to have man in his service. God wants man and will have man.
Man is both needed and expendable. Every man would do well to keep that in mind.
BlessedPeace
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God became flesh,Jesus,Immanuel="God with us", and dwelt among us.
No allusion,no Implication.
Also,if someone is worshiping a needy god, they are not worshiping the God of the Bible
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