Jesus told us His kingdom was not of this world. So we should not expect world governments to be part of His kingdom.
At least not until His return.
He simply works all things including governments for His purposes.
Trump is dangerous - a Messianic Complex
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At least not until His return.
He simply works all things including governments for His purposes.
Ronald Nolette
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As Paul told Timothy, we must pray for our rulers, in the hopes we may lead peaceful lives and practice gosdliness openly.
Something to think about
Jonah’s Anger and God’s Kindness
1 But it displeased Jonah exceedingly, and he became angry. 2 So he prayed to the Lord, and said, “Ah, Lord, was not this what I said when I was still in my country? Therefore I fled previously to Tarshish; for I know that You are a gracious and merciful God, slow to anger and abundant in lovingkindness, One who relents from doing harm. 3 Therefore now, O Lord, please take my life from me, for it is better for me to die than to live!”4 Then the Lord said, “Is it right for you to be angry?”
5 So Jonah went out of the city and sat on the east side of the city. There he made himself a shelter and sat under it in the shade, till he might see what would become of the city. 6 And the Lord God prepared a [a]plant and made it come up over Jonah, that it might be shade for his head to deliver him from his misery. So Jonah [b]was very grateful for the plant. 7 But as morning dawned the next day God prepared a worm, and it so damaged the plant that it withered. 8 And it happened, when the sun arose, that God prepared a vehement east wind; and the sun beat on Jonah’s head, so that he grew faint. Then he wished death for himself, and said, “It is better for me to die than to live.”
9 Then God said to Jonah, “Is it right for you to be angry about the plant?”
And he said, “It is right for me to be angry, even to death!”
10 But the Lord said, “You have had pity on the plant for which you have not labored, nor made it grow, which [c]came up in a night and perished in a night. 11 And should I not pity Nineveh, that great city, in which are more than one hundred and twenty thousand persons who cannot discern between their right hand and their left—and much livestock?”
Ninevah was though eventually destroyed. The destruction was just delayed as the people had repented themselves.
Wrangler
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Speaking emphatically is the EXACT opposite of careless. You got no argument other than your personal bias against emphatic language.
OR... he just set himself up to be Trump's VP so he can take over when the off Trump.
So, he could serve the rest of Trump's term... and then be re-selected to serve 2 terms of his own.
It would be very good for the country if this is how things work out.
He does have a very good point if it's true that Unitarians are accepted here as "Christian"
Wrangler
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This is true, and those "christians" who think Christians will greatly influence the world before Jesus returns... will fall right in to following the anti-christ when he arrives on the scene deceived in to thinking this guy is of God.
You watch, all the big time preachers will be telling everyone the one world leader was sent by God!
That's because in the beginning the anti-christ will seemingly be this great humanitarian that has answers to all the world's problems and will being peace to the world... which of course is short lives and is used for deception so everyone will say "blessed are the peace makers... this guy is of God, we know he is!"
It will be the greatest deception of all times and those that don't know God's Word will get sucked right in because they had no love of the Truth that they might be saved (2 Thessalonians 2:10)
I thought posting cuss words was not allowed?
I know those that have the Holy Spirit in them... don't use such filthy language.
Yes, I am not in with 'Dominionsm' where Christians must be ruling and reigning over the world before Christ can return.
I know a pastor who preaches Christ can not come back until the church has converted the entire earth into Christians.
And that the church is lazy as it has not done that. He lays a heavy burden on people blaming them for why Christ has not returned and he was the youth pastor, and he taught many other odd things to them being a full preterist. He is a very charismatic nice guy and has the ears of a lot of folk. He also claims to have the full revelation of the truth and that others do not.
Somebody should tell him, "well, if we only had decent leadership we could get er done!"
I've been known to write letters to "pastors" like this telling them they are fill of BULLony!
Ziggy
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For all those people that find it more convenient to bother you with their question than to google it for themselves.
Ziggy
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I grew up in Boston where cussing was a second language. I worked in a shop where cussing was part of the language. I was in the trucking industry for 10 years and that CB cussed more than I ever heard.
It rubs off on you and you take on the language.
It has no meaning, other than emphasizing a point.
At one time it meant what it said, today it's just letters.
When is the last time you heard: Woe is me! and not Oh Sh*t!
Just saying..
Hugs
Wrangler
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Wow! What an ego. You are just not that important that your absence would be pleasing.
Without hijacking the thread, your brand of Christianity is legalistic and intolerant. Better to be ruled by the smooth talking devil than an honest man Anointed by God who speaks emphatically once in a while? Bless your heart.
Thank God there is no doctrinal purity test in Scripture! I am a Christ follower but reject the 4th century manmade doctrine that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
It's doesn't rub off on those that are being led by the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ
One of the fruit of the Spirit is self control so talking like a sinner... makes one a sinner because we know the Holy Ghost never leads people to talk that way and those doing so are carnal minded and are need of repentance.
Christians are supposed to be influencing those around us...NOT be being influenced themselves by those around us to say and do evil.
Wrangler
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Let me introduce you to something I like to call the real world.
Why do you suppose Jesus violently drove the money changers away from the temple? Because their evil did not influence him?
Why do you suppose Jesus commanded his Apostles to sell their cloak for a sword? Because the evil of the world did not influence him?
Your too theoretical for my tastes.
2 Corinthians 6:17
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
You should brush up on yo bible knowledge... you been slipping as of late!
Well, the Lord does not require me to check in with you to get your approval on... anything!
We are supposed to be following the Lord, not men.
Wrangler
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Here is some Bible knowledge for your consideration, to become all things to all people so some might be saved. What do you suppose that means? You got to speak the language of the people IF you want to relate and be successful in influencing them.
20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some.
1 Corinthians 9:20-22
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