Is there a higher walk for believers in Christ?

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Now why do I have to prove it?

I told you I'm past it, you don't have to prove anything.

Much love!

 

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You folks like to think you are trash... a sinner and therefore garbage in God's eyes.

Is that so? You don't speak for me. Not at all!

Much love, and hope for better!

 

[1stCenturyLady]

What did you receive?

I was predestined to receive so it all happened very naturally and as God planed me to come to Belief in Jesus, then in comes the manifestation of God given faith and the Holy Spirit?....I remember it like it were yesterday...that was the Living seed/ word of God.

The mind blowing rebirth I call it!!...blew me socks off!!..Praise God!

God is having me place a blessing on you, Rj May the anointing of 1 John 2:27 be true in your life. You will far excel beyond your teachers to the measure your heart and mind are open.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You folks like to think you are trash... a sinner and therefore garbage in God's eyes.

No. I do not think this. When God looks at me he sees his son, who died for me.

But I do not deceive myself into thinking I am without sin.

I like to think I'm the called of God, among the ones He invited into this extraordinary liberation from the slavery of sin nature, and therefore was able to transform us into a more excellent beauty. I would like to point out we can only be glorified because it's God’s superiority, and exalted light that has magnified the Christ to shine in such beauty as an image of light, with divine praise, honor and dignity. It's the Christ who blazed a trail to God’s heart of love, and therefore was the first who was transformed into a more splendid and excellent beauty.

we will be glorified, when we see him as he is.

Right now, we are perfected forever. and in the process of being sanctified.

We do not want to put the cart before the horse.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Is that so? You don't speak for me. Not at all!

Much love, and hope for better!

he is stuck on a thinking..

 

[ChristisGod]

Those who are the called of God, are the ones He invited into this extraordinary liberation from the slavery of sin nature, and therefore was able to transform us into a more excellent beauty. I would like to point out we can only be glorified because it's God’s superiority, and exalted light that has magnified the Christ to shine in such beauty as an image of light, with divine praise, honor and dignity. It's the Christ who blazed a trail to God’s heart of love, and therefore was the first who was transformed into a more splendid and excellent beauty.

What doe you mean by its the Christ who blazed a trail to Gods heart. Christ is God and revealed God to man. To know the Son is to know the Father, to see the Son is to see the Father. The very words/works of Christ are the very words/works of God. That can be said of no man in human history. He is Unique as God Incarnate.

hope this helps !!!

 

[Peterlag]

What doe you mean by its the Christ who blazed a trail to Gods heart. Christ is God and revealed God to man. To know the Son is to know the Father, to see the Son is to see the Father. The very words/works of Christ are the very words/works of God. That can be said of no man in human history. He is Unique as God Incarnate.

hope this helps !!!

I'm quoting Acts 3:13 that says God glorified His son. It does not say the son was already glorified.

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus;

 

[ChristisGod]

I'm quoting Acts 3:13 that says God glorified His son. It does not say the son was already glorified.

Acts 3:13
The God of Abraham, and of Isaac, and of Jacob, the God of our fathers, hath glorified his Son Jesus;

Is Christ God ?

 

[Peterlag]

No. I do not think this. When God looks at me he sees his son, who died for me.

But I do not deceive myself into thinking I am without sin.

we will be glorified, when we see him as he is.

Right now, we are perfected forever. and in the process of being sanctified.

We do not want to put the cart before the horse.

I don't read much in the Bible that says we are in the process of being sanctified. Where do you read that?

 

[ChristisGod]

I don't read much in the Bible that says we are in the process of being sanctified. Where do you read that?

Sanctification occurs in Scripture in past (1 Cor. 1:2; 6:19; Acts 20:32), present (Rom. 6:22; 2 Cor. 7:1), and future tense (Eph. 5:25-27; 1 Thess. 3:12,13). In other words, we have been sanctified, we are being sanctified, and some day we shall fully be sanctified.

The same is true with our salvation

Salvation for the believer is past (Eph. 2:8; 2 Tim. 1:8,9), present (1 Cor. 1:18; 2 Cor. 2:5), and future tense (Rom. 5:9,10; Heb. 9:28). In other words, we have been saved, we are being saved, and someday we shall fully be saved from the wrath that is to come. Salvation won’t be complete until we receive resurrected bodies and fully in the presence of God

hope this helps !!!

 

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I'm quoting Acts 3:13 that says God glorified His son. It does not say the son was already glorified.

John 17:4-5 KJV
4) I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5) And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Much love!

 

[Ritajanice]

Is Christ God ?

Jesus is God in the flesh.

John 1:14is one of the most important verses in the Bible. It reads: “The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.” The Word did not just appear to be human; the Word became flesh

 

[Peterlag]

John 17:4-5 KJV
4) I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5) And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Much love!

This verse has been used to prove that Jesus is God because of the phrase, “that I had with you before the world was.” There is no question that Jesus “existed” before the world began. But did he exist literally as a person or in God’s foreknowledge, “in the mind of God?” Both Christ and those called to be in the Body of Christ, the Church, existed in God’s foreknowledge before being alive. Christ was the “logos,” the “plan” of God from the beginning, and he became flesh only when he was conceived. It is Trinitarian bias that causes people to read an actual physical existence into this verse rather than a figurative existence in the mind of God. When 2 Timothy says that each Christian was given grace “before the ages began” (2 Tim. 1:9), no one tries to prove that we were actually alive with God back then. Everyone acknowledges that we were “in the mind of God,” i.e., in God’s foreknowledge. The same is true of Jesus Christ. His glory was “with the Father” before the world began, and in John 17:5 he prayed that it will come into manifestation.

 

[Peterlag]

Sanctification occurs in Scripture in past (1 Cor. 1:2; 6:19; Acts 20:32), present (Rom. 6:22; 2 Cor. 7:1), and future tense (Eph. 5:25-27; 1 Thess. 3:12,13). In other words, we have been sanctified, we are being sanctified, and some day we shall fully be sanctified.

The same is true with our salvation

Salvation for the believer is past (Eph. 2:8; 2 Tim. 1:8,9), present (1 Cor. 1:18; 2 Cor. 2:5), and future tense (Rom. 5:9,10; Heb. 9:28). In other words, we have been saved, we are being saved, and someday we shall fully be saved from the wrath that is to come. Salvation won’t be complete until we receive resurrected bodies and fully in the presence of God

hope this helps !!!

I don't read much in the Bible that says we are in the process of being sanctified. Where do you read that?

Look at my question above. I wrote in the process of being sanctified. You give me 1 Corinthians 1:2 that says nothing about in the process. Do you have a verse that says in the process because the first one you give says...

Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus,...

 

[Episkopos]

I don't read much in the Bible that says we are in the process of being sanctified. Where do you read that?

Look at my question above. I wrote in the process of being sanctified. You give me 1 Corinthians 1:2 that says nothing about in the process. Do you have a verse that says in the process because the first one you give says...

Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus,...

That ARE sanctified. Correct. There is no process of sanctification. There is no mixture in holiness. Either one is holy or not. A little leaven leavens the whole batch.

I don't know why this is never understood. Perhaps because so few have ever experienced holiness.

Holiness is about location, location, location. We partake of HIS holiness IN Him.

That is the only way. This should be understood by now.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I don't read much in the Bible that says we are in the process of being sanctified. Where do you read that?

Hebrews 2:11
For both He who sanctifies and those who are being sanctified are all of one, for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren,

Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering He has perfected forever those who are being sanctified.

We are positional sanctified in Christ. Perfected forever, set apart

We are conditionally being sanctified every day..

Thats why scripture says we are sanctified. but also asays we are being sanctified

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That ARE sanctified. Correct. There is no process of sanctification. There is no mixture in holiness. Either one is holy or not. A little leaven leavens the whole batch.

I don't know why this is never understood. Perhaps because so few have ever experienced holiness.

Holiness is about location, location, location. We partake of HIS holiness IN Him.

That is the only way. This should be understood by now.

when you understand the word. it will come to you like a light bulb that is turned on.

Only you have to humble yourself.

 

[Ritajanice]

That ARE sanctified. Correct. There is no process of sanctification. There is no mixture in holiness. Either one is holy or not. A little leaven leavens the whole batch.

I don't know why this is never understood. Perhaps because so few have ever experienced holiness.

Holiness is about location, location, location. We partake of HIS holiness IN Him.

That is the only way. This should be understood by now.

What does this mean Epi?

2 Thessalonians 2:13​

13 But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers and sisters loved by the Lord, because God chose you as firstfruits to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.

 

[marks]

This verse has been used to prove that Jesus is God because of the phrase, “that I had with you before the world was.” There is no question that Jesus “existed” before the world began.

I wouldn't know why you would have an issue with such a simple declarative statement.

You can go to another passage which to you seems similar, though it is not a parallel passage, nor does it use the same grammatical construction. You say, there is no question Jesus "existed", and then go on to explain how He didn't actually "exist".

There are many other passages as well that tell us that while Adam was of the earth, Jesus is the Lord from heaven, and that the Son of Man was even at that time in heaven, and that He "became obedient" (meaning He was either disobedient, or Sovereign), it goes on and on. Before Abraham did exist, Jesus does exist.

There doesn't seem to me to be any question regarding the simple truth of Jesus' words, the glory I had with You before the world was.

Isn't this just another case of, "Yes, it says THAT, but it means THIS?

Much love!

 

[Peterlag]

I wouldn't know why you would have an issue with such a simple declarative statement.

You can go to another passage which to you seems similar, though it is not a parallel passage, nor does it use the same grammatical construction. You say, there is no question Jesus "existed", and then go on to explain how He didn't actually "exist".

There are many other passages as well that tell us that while Adam was of the earth, Jesus is the Lord from heaven, and that the Son of Man was even at that time in heaven, and that He "became obedient" (meaning He was either disobedient, or Sovereign), it goes on and on. Before Abraham did exist, Jesus does exist.

There doesn't seem to me to be any question regarding the simple truth of Jesus' words, the glory I had with You before the world was.

Isn't this just another case of, "Yes, it says THAT, but it means THIS?

Much love!

There cannot be a verse anywhere that says Jesus is God and therefore which ever one that you think says that has to be wrong either in the translation or your understanding. There cannot be such a verse because Jesus was born a man.