Tucker Carlson in Moscow to interview Vladimir Putin

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Wrangler

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Germany attacked MULTIPLE countries killing millions of people in those attacks AND in gas chambers. It broke its non-aggression pact with Russia and attacked them after deceiving them. And you are paralleling that with what is happening today? :jest:
Yes. Only NATO now plays the role of Germany then.

Sure, the specifics are different but expansion/agression is the same.
 

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I know the difference between defense and aggression kiddo.
Evidently not. Being a peace maker is an opportunity for NATO. Self defense is the burden Russia has in the face of NATO agression and expansion. Hence, all the military hardware shipped to Russia's border in the war.

I do not think it is right to provoke conflict. Every post you make shows you are a war monger.
 

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Evidently not. Being a peace maker is an opportunity for NATO. Self defense is the burden Russia has in the face of NATO agression and expansion. Hence, all the military hardware shipped to Russia's border in the war.
No, not "evidently not". If it is "evidently not" then show your evidence that I don't know the difference between defense and aggression. You have no evidence therfor you are ONCE AGAIN wrong.

Our discussion is about Russia attacking Ukraine. That has NOTHING to do with alleged NATO aggression. NATO did not attack Russia. The aggressors, Russia, attacked Ukraine.

"All the military hardware shipped to Russia's border in the war" was to defend against the agressor, Russia.

You loose AGAIN.....do you ever get tired of being wrong?
 

Marymog

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I do not think it is right to provoke conflict. Every post you make shows you are a war monger.
Lol....You do not think it is right to provoke conflict but it was right for Russia to provoke conflict?

Show me one post that suggest I am a war monger. I think it's pretty clear I am not sooooooooo ONCE AGAIN you lied.
 

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Yes. Only NATO now plays the role of Germany then.

Sure, the specifics are different but expansion/agression is the same.
NATO hasn't attacked anyone soooooo how is NATO now playing the role of Germany then?

You make no sense.
 

Marymog

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Well you certainly know passive-aggression. lol

Calling someone "Wrongler" and "kiddo" is purposeful. Calling someone a liar is accusatory.

You are always itching for a confrontation and I'll offer you none. In other words, I'll waste no time on your itch.

Have a nice day Mary.
Lol....got it MR E.....You have NO DEFENSE for your allegations. Good job.

Mary always has a nice day....especially when she reveals people like you.
 

Marymog

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Well you certainly know passive-aggression. lol

Calling someone "Wrongler" and "kiddo" is purposeful. Calling someone a liar is accusatory.

You are always itching for a confrontation and I'll offer you none. In other words, I'll waste no time on your itch.

Have a nice day Mary.
I can back up my accusations of wrangler of being a liar.

And YES, Calling someone "Wrongler" and "kiddo" is purposeful. Guilty as charged.

However, you inserted yourself into a conversation and now can't back up what your allegation that wrangler is wasting his breath on me.

Truly embarrassing for you.....
 
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Big Boy Johnson

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Russia is reacting to provocation.

Just like the US was ready to do during the cuban missile crisis.

If Russia had not agreed to take their nukes out of cuba, we would have attacked cuba to destroy those nukes.

Today, Russia is doing what we were gearing up to do back then.
 

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How much American soil still belongs to America?
And who had their hands in those transactions?
Now America is crying, give us back our farmlands!
But who sold us out?

Hillary sold Putin 10% of our Uranium through a proxy with Canada. Who in turn would eventually sell it to Iran for the making of nuclear weapons. So in the end, the purchaser (Russia) would be accused of aiding and abetting Iran in the production of them.
Probable cause for declaring war on Russia.
But the beans got spilled and people found out (Uranium One) . So they had to change course and use backup plan #2.
Crimea.

We just sold American Steel Company to Japan.
How we going to make things in America with American products, if all our products are owned by other entities?

The whole thing is a scam.
Look at any product in your home right now. Everything is created through the production and delivery of oil.
Whether it is used in the manufacturing of goods, used in the machinery that assembles the products, or in the vehicles which deliver them.
And we have given the industry over to Saudi Arabia, Venezaula, Iran, and Russia.
Now instead of cheap products created with our own supply, we need to import oil which raises the taxes on every product we consume.

Who is selling us out?

Washington DC.

Rev 18:2
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Hugs
Oh Hell, America is Babylon?
 
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Marymog

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LOL? There's that mocking again.

Russia is reacting to provocation.
REALLY? How did Ukraine provoke Russia? :watching and waiting:

You allege that when Jesus said, he that has a cloak sell it and buy a sword = Jesus saying use that sword only in defense, not in aggression. How is Russia defending itself when Ukraine never attacked it? :watching and waiting:
 

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You are always itching for a confrontation and I'll offer you none. In other words, I'll waste no time on your itch.

Have a nice day Mary.
Not itching for a confrontation E. You inserted yourself into this conversation but now want to make me look like I'm itching to confront you? Weird.....But hey...it makes you feel good to put the blame on me. Doesn't it? ;)
 

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REALLY? How did Ukraine provoke Russia?

NATO provoked Russia by pushing to put Ukraine in to NATO membership and putting nukes and other military hardware in Ukraine on their boarder with Russia. This has been going on since the 90s.

The US was fully ready to start a war with Russia in the 60s when they put nukes in Cuba and if Russia had not removed them we would have started a war by attacking Cuba and possibly Russia at the same time.

So, Americans think we can start wars... you did notice we have been the aggressor nation in numerous wars right?... but if Russia does it to protect their country, somehow it's wrong.

I would think catholics would understand this cause they are known for murdering people who reject their catholic cult as they claim self defense exit_stage_right.gif
 
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NATO provoked Russia by pushing to put Ukraine in to NATO membership and putting nukes and other military hardware in Ukraine on their boarder with Russia. This has been going on since the 90s.

The US was fully ready to start a war with Russia in the 60s when they put nukes in Cuba and if Russia had not removed them we would have started a war by attacking Cuba and possibly Russia at the same time.

So, Americans think we can start wars... you did notice we have been the aggressor nation in numerous wars right?... but if Russia does it to protect their country, somehow it's wrong.

I would think catholics would understand this cause they are known for murdering people who reject their catholic cult as they claim self defense View attachment 42051
Ummmm.....Well first off Ukraine doesn't have any nukes. The FACT is they gave them up in th 90's. Russia left thousands of nuclear missiles in Ukrainian after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. Ukraine made the decision to completely denuclearize. In exchange, the U.S., the U.K. and Russia would guarantee Ukraine's security in a 1994 agreement known as the Budapest Memorandum. Sooooo you got that wrong.

And YES, thankfully the US was ready to start a war over the Cuban missile crisis. How was Russia protecting itself by putting nuclear weapons 5,000 miles away from it's own borders?

Ahhhh.....Yes, the old fallback defense the Catholic Church murdered people who rejected their dogma.

Well, you clearly don't know the history of Ukraine and it's nukes as highlighted above so it wouldn't surprise me if you didn't know that Protestants killed other Protestants and Catholics when they rejected their dogma. ;)


Curious Mary
 

Marymog

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Evidently not. Being a peace maker is an opportunity for NATO. Self defense is the burden Russia has in the face of NATO agression and expansion. Hence, all the military hardware shipped to Russia's border in the war.

I do not think it is right to provoke conflict. Every post you make shows you are a war monger.
Soooooo sell your cloak and buy a sword means use that sword to attack before you THINK you are going to be attacked....Got it. Then you are not the aggressor, your the defendant.

Wait a minute! :IDK:
 

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Well first off Ukraine doesn't have any nukes.

Er... but NATO does and they share nuke launching sites with
numerous NATO countries who also don't have nuke4s themselves.

You shouldn't comment on things you don't know anything about clueless-doh.gif


Protestants killed other Protestants and Catholics when they rejected their dogma

That's cause protestants carried false catholic doctrine with them in to the reformation.
They got that from you people!

The catholics were killing people long before the so called reformation

That's why one has to be careful when hanging out with catholics as they are just like
the OSAS peoples (reformers) in that they can bust out in sinful behavior at any moment! agree.gif
 

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Soooooo sell your cloak and buy a sword means use that sword to attack before you THINK you are going to be attacked....Got it. Then you are not the aggressor, your the defendant.

Wait a minute! :IDK:
Wrangler hasn't a clue. They're a pacifist who sides with RUSSIA?

Wait a minute, indeed.
 
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