list these events in sequence order

[Keraz]

* keras, there is still the problem that in Ezekiel 39, the 7 years in verses 9-10, of burning the weapons, is right after the Gog/Magog event. What if you took the two years out, and the signing of the peace treaty, in your scenario, for 7 years starts right after Gog/Magog ? i.e. right after Gog/Magog, the signing of a peace treaty for 7 years.

The 7 years of burning the weapons cannot be concurrent with the 7 year peace treaty.
There must be some time between the G.M attack and when the Leader of the OWG comes to Beulah to negotiate that peace treaty, Maybe 3 1/2 years, so as the 7 year disposal operation won't clash with the Great Trib?

Moving the Sixth Seal ?

The Sixth Seal will be the Day the Lord changes the world to a similar extent as He did in the days of Noah. It has not been opened yet. Or the Seventh Seal time gap.
Your placement of the SS when Jesus Returns is error and simply does not relate to the many Prophesies about that glorious Day.

We are told what the Scroll contains, but the fulfilment of it is still future.

Keras, what is the mega reason that the kings of the earth, and the beast,-king, and their armies gather together to make war on Jesus ?

It will be Satans attempt to destroy Jesus when He Returns. God makes it easy and motivates all the ungodly people to gather at Armageddon. Rev 16:12-21
They are destroyed by the Word of God, NOT by fire, as in the Sixth Seal.

 

[Davidpt]

Please list in sequence order these events. Beginning with the first to the last. I have placed them in order as I believe correct.

the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog/Magog event
the great tribulation
the Armageddon event
the Second Coming of Jesus
the 1000 year millennium
Satan's short period to once again deceive the nations

If it were me I think I would at least include the birth of Christ here. The reason why, though there might be some interpreters that agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 fits before great trib, not all of them also agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 fits after the birth of Christ.

 

[Douggg]

It will be Satans attempt to destroy Jesus when He Returns.

And how will the beast-king and the kings of the earth know that Jesus is about to return ?

 

[Douggg]

The 7 years of burning the weapons cannot be concurrent with the 7 year peace treaty.
There must be some time between the G.M attack and when the Leader of the OWG comes to Beulah to negotiate that peace treaty, Maybe 3 1/2 years, so as the 7 year disposal operation won't clash with the Great Trib?

Why not ? The muslim armies will have just been destroyed, and in the aftermath a peace treaty for the region established.

 

[Douggg]

If it were me I think I would at least include the birth of Christ here. The reason why, though there might be some interpreters that agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 fits before great trib, not all of them also agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 fits after the birth of Christ.

I don't get what you are saying.

The Gog/Magog event is end times. Soon to take place.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Please list in sequence order these events. Beginning with the first to the last. I have placed them in order as I believe correct.

the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog/Magog event
the great tribulation
the Armageddon event
the Second Coming of Jesus
the 1000 year millennium
Satan's short period to once again deceive the nations

You just did. case settled!

 

[Davidpt]

I don't get what you are saying.

The Gog/Magog event is end times. Soon to take place.

While you and I clearly agree that Ezekiel 38-39 is endtimes, there are some interpreters that disagree. An example of an interpreter that would disagree would be @Truth7t7. It is obvious that he disagrees after reading what he said per the following post in another thread of yours.

The war in Ezekiel 39 was fought long ago with "Wooden" weapons, bows, arrows, spears, and shields, the battle seen isn't "Future" as you falsely claim

Which means, though interpreters such as him agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 precedes great trib, interpreters such as him don't also agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 is meaning after the birth of Christ if they are insisting it already happened long ago, unless they are perhaps taking it to mean what happened in 70 AD. Which would then be ludicrous if they did, the fact 70 AD involved Jews being slaughtered while Ezekiel 38-39 involves no Jews being slaughtered whatsoever. The ones attacking them are the ones slaughtered per Ezekiel 38-39. In 70 AD it was the opposite. The ones being attacked were the ones being slaughtered.

 

[Douggg]

While you and I clearly agree that Ezekiel 38-39 is endtimes, there are some interpreters that disagree. An example of an interpreter that would disagree would be @Truth7t7. It is obvious that he disagrees after reading what he said per the following post in another thread of yours.




Which means, though interpreters such as him agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 precedes great trib, interpreters such as him don't also agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 is meaning after the birth of Christ if they are insisting it already happened long ago, unless they are perhaps taking it to mean what happened in 70 AD. Which would then be ludicrous if they did, the fact 70 AD involved Jews being slaughtered while Ezekiel 38-39 involves no Jews being slaughtered whatsoever. The ones attacking them are the ones slaughtered per Ezekiel 38-39. In 70 AD it was the opposite. The ones being attacked were the ones being slaughtered.

What I think@Truth7t7 needs to look at and consider is Ezekiel 39:21-29 as Jesus Himself speaking in the text having returned to this earth, His Second Coming.

 

[Keraz]

And how will the beast-king and the kings of the earth know that Jesus is about to return ?

Satan will know. The 'beast' and the false prophet will lead those kings and armies. Rev 19:19

Why not ? The muslim armies will have just been destroyed, and in the aftermath a peace treaty for the region established.

I would think the Anti-Christ leader of the OWG, will be shocked to see how the Christian peoples of the new nation of Beulah, win the G/M battle. With smooth words and dissimulation, he will win over the leaders of Beulah, Daniel 11:32, but their agreement to a 7 year peace treaty, is seen by the Lord as a covenant of Death. Isaiah 28:14-15

 

[Truth7t7]

While you and I clearly agree that Ezekiel 38-39 is endtimes, there are some interpreters that disagree. An example of an interpreter that would disagree would be @Truth7t7. It is obvious that he disagrees after reading what he said per the following post in another thread of yours.




Which means, though interpreters such as him agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 precedes great trib, interpreters such as him don't also agree with you that Ezekiel 38-39 is meaning after the birth of Christ if they are insisting it already happened long ago, unless they are perhaps taking it to mean what happened in 70 AD. Which would then be ludicrous if they did, the fact 70 AD involved Jews being slaughtered while Ezekiel 38-39 involves no Jews being slaughtered whatsoever. The ones attacking them are the ones slaughtered per Ezekiel 38-39. In 70 AD it was the opposite. The ones being attacked were the ones being slaughtered.

Chapter 39 is very easily interpreted, it was a war long ago when Israel was coming out of the Babylonian Captivity to return to Jerusalem to build the 2nd Zerubabbel temple in 536BC, Ezekiel was a Prophet to Israel of the Babylonian Captivity

Ezekiel 39:23KJV
23 And the heathen shall know that the house of Israel went into captivity for their iniquity: because they trespassed against me, therefore hid I my face from them, and gave them into the hand of their enemies: so fell they all by the sword.

Yes the war was fought with "Wooden" weapons of warfare, bows, arrows, spears, and shields, (Long Ago) around the time of the Babylonian Captivity, no rocket science it's before your eyes

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV
9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

 

[Truth7t7]

1. the great tribulation
2. the Second Coming of Jesus
3. the 1000 year millennium
4. Satan's short period to once again deceive the nations
5. the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog/Magog event
6. the Armageddon event

1.) The Antichrist Is Revealed In Jerusalem Proclaiming To Be God On Earth

2.) The Great Tribulation For 3.5 Years, As The (Two Witnesses) Bring All Plagues Upon The Unsealed Wicked World

3.) Nations Gathered In Israel Armageddon, Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement (The End)

 

[ewq1938]

Please list in sequence order these events. Beginning with the first to the last. I have placed them in order as I believe correct.

the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog/Magog event
the great tribulation
the Armageddon event
the Second Coming of Jesus
the 1000 year millennium
Satan's short period to once again deceive the nations

1. the great tribulation
2. the Second Coming of Jesus
3. the Armageddon event
4. the 1000 year millennium
5. Satan's short period to once again deceive the nations

 

[ewq1938]

1. the great tribulation
2. the Second Coming of Jesus
3. the 1000 year millennium
4. Satan's short period to once again deceive the nations
5. the Ezekiel 38-39 Gog/Magog event
6. the Armageddon event

Armageddon happens before the Millennium does.

 

[Douggg]

Satan will know. The 'beast' and the false prophet will lead those kings and armies. Rev 19:19

It is going to take more than words. There has to be a visible threat to motivate nations to assemble their armies at Armageddon in preparation to make war on Jesus.

In Revelation 6, the world sees Jesus - the Lamb - before the throne of God. And His countenance will be that of preparing to execute judgment, because it says...

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

That sort of visible appearance of Jesus and the throne would not take place for some solar event depopulation - that you are thinking as what the sixth seal means.

 

[Douggg]

1. the great tribulation
2. the Second Coming of Jesus
3. the Armageddon event
4. the 1000 year millennium
5. Satan's short period to once again deceive the nations

ewq1938, the kings of the earth assemble their armies at Armageddon in preparation to make war on Jesus. So I the Armageddon event should go before the Second Coming of Jesus. Although they are timed closely together.

 

[Keraz]

It is going to take more than words. There has to be a visible threat to motivate nations to assemble their armies at Armageddon in preparation to make war on Jesus.

Why do I need to show you plain scripture?
It will be the three foul spirits....with the power to work miracles who will muster those kings and their armies. Revelation 16:13-14

In Revelation 6, the world sees Jesus - the Lamb - before the throne of God. And His countenance will be that of preparing to execute judgment, because it says...

What sheer nonsense. There are several Prophesies which prove that God and the Lamb are NOT seen of the terrible Day of their fiery wrath. Psalms 11:4-6, +
People won't hang around looking up for God; they and we too, must find cover from the extreme heat, etc, of the Sixth Seal disaster.

I have given proof that the only thing that can cause all the Prophesied effects of the Lords Day of wrath, is a Coronal Mass Ejection of unprecedented magnitude.
Rejecting it, is to reject a lot of the Bible. OK with that?

 

[ewq1938]

ewq1938, the kings of the earth assemble their armies at Armageddon in preparation to make war on Jesus. So I the Armageddon event should go before the Second Coming of Jesus. Although they are timed closely together.

The enemy arrives at Arm before Jesus does but that isn't the Arm event. The fighting and killing is the actual event and that happens after Jesus has returned.

enemy arrives at Armageddon BEFORE Jesus does
the Second Coming of Jesus
the Armageddon event (fighting/killing)

 

[Douggg]

What sheer nonsense. There are several Prophesies which prove that God and the Lamb are NOT seen of the terrible Day of their fiery wrath.

But, keras, we are looking at Revelation 6, the sixth seal.

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

The whole world sees Jesus the Lamb of God, before the throne of God.

There is nothing about depopulation of the middle east in those verses.

The sixth seal event can only happen at the end of the seven years, to correspond to Matthew 24:29-30a

29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

[Douggg]

The enemy arrives at Arm before Jesus does but that isn't the Arm event. The fighting and killing is the actual event and that happens after Jesus has returned.

Not "after", but on the day of Jesus's return.

Jesus does not return, and then the kings of the earth begin assembling their armies at Armageddon.

 

[quietthinker]

1.) The Antichrist Is Revealed In Jerusalem Proclaiming To Be God On Earth

2.) The Great Tribulation For 3.5 Years, As The (Two Witnesses) Bring All Plagues Upon The Unsealed Wicked World

3.) Nations Gathered In Israel Armageddon, Jesus Returns In Fire And Final Judgement (The End)

Do you know who Fransisco Ribera is? Do you know what his objective was and why? You can do an internet search and come up with plenty of information on him. It might help you understand where and why your theology was developed.