7 PAGAN FESTIVALS WE STILL CELEBRATE TODAY ~ under the guise of Christian celebrations and names.

[Wynona]

@Aunty Jane

brings up some good points. The topic at hand is the pagan origins of Christian holidays. It shouldn't matter if someone also holds to beliefs you don't agree with if they are bringing up fair points to the topic at hand.

I have been in a strange place for a long time now. I don't agree with Protestant or Catholic traditions. I don't run with any church.

That being said, I wish I could have a stronger moral conviction against holidays like Christmas and Easter because I find them so annoying, stressful, and shallow. I wish we had such a moral objection that we could refuse to participate.

I almost do. But its mostly self-serving.

But no, I don't think hardly any traditions surrounding Christmas and Easter have anything to do with honoring Jesus.

 

[amigo de christo]

Jeremiah 10​

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Easy-to-Read Version​

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The Lord and the Idols​

10 Family of Israel, listen to the Lord! 2 This is what the Lord says:
“Don’t live like people from other nations.
Don’t be afraid of special signs in the sky.[a]
The other nations are afraid of what they see in the sky.
But you must not be afraid of them.
3 The customs of other people are worth nothing.
Their idols are nothing but wood from the forest.
Their idols are made by workers with their chisels.
4 They make their idols beautiful with silver and gold.
They use hammers and nails to fasten their idols down
so that they will not fall over.
5 The idols of the other nations are like
a scarecrow in a cucumber field.
They cannot walk.
They cannot talk, and the people must carry them.
So don’t be afraid of their idols.
They cannot hurt you.
And they cannot help you either.”
6 Lord, there is no one like you.
You are great!
Your name is great and powerful!
7 Everyone should respect you, King of all the nations.
You deserve their respect.
There are many wise men among the nations,
but not one of them is as wise as you.
8 All the people of the other nations are stupid and foolish.
Their teachings come from worthless wooden statues.
9 They use silver from the city of Tarshish
and gold from the city of Uphaz and make their statues.
Carpenters and metalworkers make the idols.
They put blue and purple clothes on them.
“Wise men” make these “gods.”
10 But the Lord is the only true God.
He is the only God who is alive.
He is the King who rules forever.
The earth shakes when he is angry.
The people of the nations cannot stop his anger.
11 The Lord says, “Tell them this message:
‘These false gods did not make heaven and earth.
They will be destroyed and disappear from heaven and earth.’”[c]
12 God is the one who used his power and made the earth.
He used his wisdom and built the world.
With his understanding he stretched the sky over the earth.
13 God causes the loud thunder,
and he causes great floods of water to fall from the sky.
He makes clouds rise in the sky every place on earth.
He sends lightning with the rain.
He brings out the wind from his storehouses.
14 People are so stupid!
Metalworkers are fooled by the idols that they themselves made.
These statues are nothing but lies.
They are stupid.[d]
15 These idols are worth nothing.
They are something to make fun of.
In the time of judgment they will be destroyed.
16 But Jacob’s God[e] is not like the idols.
He made everything,
and Israel is the family that God chose to be his own people.
His name is Lord All-Powerful.

Destruction Is Coming​

17 Get everything you own and prepare to leave.
People of Judah, you are trapped in the city,
and the enemy is all around it.
18 This is what the Lord says:
“This time, I will throw the people of Judah out of this country.
I will bring pain and trouble to them.
I will do this so that they will learn their lesson.”[f]
19 I am hurt badly.
I am injured and I cannot be healed.
But I told myself, “This is my sickness;
I must suffer through it.”
20 My tent is ruined.
All its ropes are broken.
My children left me.
They are gone.
No one is left to put up my tent.
No one is left to fix a shelter for me.
21 The shepherds are stupid.
They don’t try to find the Lord.
They are not wise,
so their flocks are scattered and lost.
22 Listen! A loud noise!
The noise is coming from the north.[g]
It will destroy the cities of Judah.
Judah will become an empty desert.
It will be a home for jackals.
23 Lord, I know that our lives do not belong to us.
We have no control over what happens.
24 So correct us, Lord!
But please be fair.
Don’t punish us in anger,
or you will destroy us!
25 If you are angry, then punish the other nations.
They don’t know or respect you.
They don’t worship you.
Those nations destroyed Jacob’s family.
They destroyed Israel completely.
They destroyed Israel’s homeland.

Footnotes​

1. Jeremiah 10:2 special signs in the sky People believed that such things as comets, meteors, or eclipses of the sun and moon could be used to learn what was going to happen in the future.
2. Jeremiah 10:3 chisels Sharp tools used to carve wood or stone.
3. Jeremiah 10:11 Tell them this message … earth This part was written in Aramaic, not Hebrew. This was the language people used often when writing to people in other countries. It was also the language spoken in Babylon.
4. Jeremiah 10:14 They are stupid Literally, “They have no spirit.” This might also mean “They are not alive.”
5. Jeremiah 10:16 Jacob’s God Literally, “Jacob’s share.” This means that God and Jacob (the people of Israel) had a special relationship—God belonged to Israel, and Israel belonged to God.”
6. Jeremiah 10:18 they will learn their lesson The Hebrew text here is hard to understand.
7. Jeremiah 10:22 north The Babylonian army came from this direction to attack Judah. Armies from countries north and east of Israel often came this way to attack Judah and Israel.

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Come , get you out of mystery babylon that has corrupted from within Christendom .
Its temple will be destroyed on the day of the LORD . Its image of Jesus , of God and its love will save none .
GET up , And come out from within her my peoples that you partake not in her SIN and her sins
and so that you RECIEVE NOT THE PLAGUES she and her children shall recieve ON THE DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST
whom their rainbow koran budda statue kissing love DENIED and TROD UNDER FOOT .
We got us many WiW that are amongst and even lead this people . Wolves in wool . It be time and high time
to bible up and let us learn THAT CHRIST , THAT GOD , THAT DOCTRINE ., THAT LOVE .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Come on folks. Lighten up and don't be legalistic.

Yep, if God says something is a sin it's "legalistic" to think we cannot do it since all our future sins are already forgiven so we can do all the sin we want, right?

This is what most churches teach these days.

Sure they'll tell you you should not do sin but they turn right around and falsely claim all future sins are already forgiven even before those sins are committed and when people here this they know it's all good, they can keep on living in sin!

Just don't let people at church know because they may not approve of your particular sin because they have their own sin that like to do .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I wish we had such a moral objection that we could refuse to participate.

I quit participating in Christmas and Easter years ago when the Lord taught me these events were not of Him.

I do celebrate Jesus' birth, and His resurrection by having private prayer time and taking communion.

But, I don't buy people gifts and I certainly not out there hunting easter eggs or otherwise participating in these events which have all been commercialized

 

[Wynona]

I quit participating in Christmas and Easter years ago when the Lord taught me these events were not of Him.

I do celebrate Jesus' birth, and His resurrection by having private prayer time and taking communion.

But, I don't buy people gifts and I certainly not out there hunting easter eggs or otherwise participating in these events which have all been commercialized

I admire this. Even now just the sense of disconnect and isolation I feel from churchgoers in general is extreme.

Im glad you have found the strength to live out such an unpopular conviction to honor the Lord.

There are so many things that we dont agree with in churches already. You already mentioned a big one---justifying believers still living in sin.

 

[amigo de christo]

I admire this. Even now just the sense of disconnect and isolation I feel from churchgoers in general is extreme.

Im glad you have found the strength to live out such an unpopular conviction to honor the Lord.

There are so many things that we dont agree with in churches already. You already mentioned a big one---justifying believers still living in sin.

Ever wonder why peter made mention of LOTT
and when HE DID he wrote and said WHICH VEXED HIS RIGHTEOUS SOUL FROM DAY TO DAY
with their UNLAWFUL DEEDS . WE ARE LIVING IN THE DAYS OF NOAH and SODOM sister .
And many have went astray as it was fortold they would long , long ago in that bible .
ITS getting almost impossible to find people who are not already well influenced by another love
which came of the world . And as far as leaders , ITS A VERY VERY TOUGH FIND and it just keeps getting worse all the time .
BUT we were warned that MANY would follow thier perniscious ways by reason of whom the Way of TRUTH would be evil
spoken off . PETER said that concerning people WHO WOULD BE WITHIN , even Teaching the churches and that
MANY not some , BUT MANY WOULD FOLLOW their pernscious ways .
WE IN THEM DAYS SISTER .
and seducers are only waxing worse and worse , deceiving and being decieved .
WE ARE HEADED right to the day of armegeddon .
THIS WORLD , its religoins and worse CHRISTENDOM is all leading the world to unite as one
under what it thinks is GOD and is love , ONLY IT AINT GOD OR LOVE , it be the dragon.
TIME is running out sister . and i cant stress that enough .
LOTT STRESSED IT TOO , but they mocked him , but STILL THE WRATH DID COME .
ITS COMING SISTER . the end , the end of all flesh is coming upon this world .
IT IS GATHERING AS ONE , we are one , we are one , unity unity,
AS ONE RIGHT UNTO THE DAY of armegeddon .
AND if we take note what is behind this entire move
its the idea that if all religoins merge as one , if the world merges as one , IT WILL FINALLY HAVE PEACE N SAFETY .
AND YET , they will never see this FOR SUDDEN DESTRUCTION will be their end .
FOR WHEN they shall say PEACE N SAFTEY , SUDDEN DESTRUCTION COMETH UPON THEM ALL and they will not escape .
THEIR means to attain peace n safety , HAS TROD THE DIRE NECESSITY TO BELIEVE ON JESUS CHRIST RIGHT UNDER FOOT
and rather they do all to find what we all have in common , preach that love , those good works . IT AINT GONNA bode well
on the day of the LORD . and though many a hand joined in unity with many a hand
THE WICKED will not go unpunished . YE SHALL DIE . I SAID UNTO YOU that YOU SHALL DIE .
FOR IF YOU BELIEVE NOT that I AM HE YE SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS . JESUS HAS BEEN KICKED OUT and thus only death awaits
them .

 

[amigo de christo]

I admire this. Even now just the sense of disconnect and isolation I feel from churchgoers in general is extreme.

Im glad you have found the strength to live out such an unpopular conviction to honor the Lord.

There are so many things that we dont agree with in churches already. You already mentioned a big one---justifying believers still living in sin.

When names such as anti christ , devil , satan , hater , judger and a score of them i cannot repeat
because they relate to bad four letter words , GETS called against men who REMIND folks
that JESUS MUST BE BELIEVED IN
and that HE is not the minstir of sin ,
and the ones calling me those names CLAIM TO KNOW JESUS
then know and understand WE GOT HUGE PROBLEMS SISTER .
IF the church is blind leading the blind and their love for truth , for CHRIST has waxed cold
and their hatred against biblical truth has increased , ITS ALL HEADED RIGHT TO TOTAL DESTRUCTION .
WE are IN THEM DAYS SISTER . i have never seen a delusion that can GATHER like this one can and has
and though it is claiming LOVE , tolerance and etc , Its love has turned them BITTER HARD
against the WORD and words of GOD and OF HIS CHRIST . THIS IS A DELUSION and sister , ITS A STRONG ONE TOO .
THIS Delusion is not dividing the false , ITS UNITING THE FASLE as ONE , ONE MIND ONE HEART
and that mind and that heart IS HARDNING BIG TIME against GOD , truth against the TRUE CHRIST
and against those who have not conformed to their and its version of what it calleth love or god .
THIS IS A VERY STRONG DELUISION .

 

[Aunty Jane]

@Aunty Jane

brings up some good points. The topic at hand is the pagan origins of Christian holidays. It shouldn't matter if someone also holds to beliefs you don't agree with if they are bringing up fair points to the topic at hand.

Thank you.....

I have been in a strange place for a long time now. I don't agree with Protestant or Catholic traditions. I don't run with any church.

That is the place I found myself in some 50 odd years ago.....nothing about the church system I was raised in rang true for me.....all I saw was hypocrisy. I didn’t know the Bible, all I knew was their theology and nothing I saw in my church was in agreement with what they said Jesus taught.
The pagan holidays were just the beginning....

I wanted to know what the Lord’s Prayer meant.....what was Jesus teaching us to pray for when he said....”thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven”.....no one seemed to know, but volunteered what they thought it meant.....that just wasn’t good enough for me.....I don’t just want to know the words of Jesus’ most famous prayer, I wanted to know what he was teaching us to pray for....and it had to come from God’s word.

That being said, I wish I could have a stronger moral conviction against holidays like Christmas and Easter because I find them so annoying, stressful, and shallow. I wish we had such a moral objection that we could refuse to participate.

I almost do. But its mostly self-serving.

The funny thing is, when I have been in Supermarket check-out queues at holiday times, I am often asked by others if I have made plans for the holidays, or if I have done my Christmas shopping yet?
When I tell them that I don’t celebrate the holidays, they seem shocked at first, but when I tell them that we as a family have many occasions to get together and celebrate us, always thankful for what God has given us, they change their expression and often lament that they wish they could do that too.

I see these poor people running themselves ragged trying to accommodate something that is nothing more than a commercial ‘greed-fest’. They feel pressured to participate because of emotional blackmail... but when you stand back and see it for what it is...it doesn’t sit well.
If you substitute your own family occasions or other events such as your wedding anniversary to give gifts to your loved ones.....it’s so much nicer and there is no obligation to spent too much money buying gifts for those who really don’t need, or appreciate them. Buy them a gift through the year because you love them, not because you have to.

I would rather buy something for someone that I know would appreciate it, when I can afford it, rather than have the date on a calendar dictate to me what I should do, and when I should do it.....that is slavery. I broke those shackles decades ago and many people have expressed to me what you did.....they wish they could ditch the whole thing but feel obligated because of family expectations. It takes courage to break free, but it feels great not to be part of it anymore......it’s empowering because God and his son are not in those celebrations anyway....they never were.

No one knows the date of Christ’s birth because the Jews did not celebrate birthdays......it has spiritistic origins in astrology. A birthdate was used to cast horoscopes, which was forbidden in God’s law. (Deut 18:9-12)

But no, I don't think hardly any traditions surrounding Christmas and Easter have anything to do with honoring Jesus.

Actually none of those traditions have anything to do with honouring Jesus...the originals were honouring false gods and goddesses and therefore dishonouring God....so why do it? If you know that it does not please God, then make your decision known to those nearest and dearest and choose your own days to celebrate the life God has given you.....it doesn’t mean you can’t have family gatherings or give gifts, but you don’t have to run with the crowd.....

The liberation feels good. It seems as if your conscience is already troubling you, so do what you need to do without dictating to others. When they see that you are so much happier without the dictated “holidays” being an expensive burden in these troubled times, they may be happy to join you?

Blessings.....

 

[Grailhunter]

Our origins are Gentile-Christians which mean Pagans that converted to Christianity. After the 1st century the Gentile-Christians took the helm of the Church and it has been that way ever since. The Protestants if they trace their heritage back they were Pagans that converted to Christianity….I do not know of any Jewish-Protestants, even though there are some Jewish wannabes out there….There are some weird Protestant denominations like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Branch Davidians, Moonies, Shakers, and Voodooists.

The Pagans came from different regions and converted to Christianity but no one ask them to give up their heritages or cultures so a lot of that merged into Christianity and some of them were Christianized. No harm.

Then on the hand freedom of religion….There are Christian religions that do not celebrate holidays like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Armstrongist, the True Jesus Church, the Church of God (Seventh-Day) etc, so they do have groups….it is their choice. No one is twisting their arms to celebrate holidays.

There is nothing in the New Testament that says you have to observe the Sabbath, the Lord’s Day, or any of our holidays. It says we should assemble….but no day is specified.

That is all freedom of choice. But keep in mind that the wedding ceremonies are also not required by the Bible and are strictly a Pagan custom….as it is now the average Christian wedding is a amalgamation of Pagan customs and rituals and the standard arrangement of vows come from the Catholics.

I celebrate all the main holidays.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Even now just the sense of disconnect and isolation I feel from churchgoers in general is extreme.

Well that is very easily overcome when one realizes that you and God together make up the majority for your life.

Even if you found a church that taught near perfect doctrine and all the people loved you - the relationship you have with the Lord is first and foremost and everyone else is a distant second.

On judgment day it's going to be just you and the Lord confronting one another so we may as well live moment by moment each day recognizing that reality right now in our daily lives. Over the years I've had to learn that my fellowship is with the Lord primarily and I look to Him and His Word every moment and I receive His peace and joy by faith and that has become my reality which keep me in peace (see Isaiah 26:3, 1 Peter 5:7, Philippians 4:6, Psalms 55:22, Colossians 3:15)

Im glad you have found the strength to live out such an unpopular conviction to honor the Lord.

It' all His strength and ability, I just happen to be a joint heir with the Lord so I can access His strength and ability.

This starts by keeping His promises in our mind and in our mouth along with casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God. (2 Corinthians 10:5). It helps to be rebellious like Jesus was - not against God of course, but rebellious against the devil refusing to allow him to have entry in to our lives.

And yes this freaks out a lot of people that say they are Christians but that's not my problem. Walking with the Lord is more important than what they think. I usually tell people that "easter" and Christmas have been commercialized and the Lord has led me to not participate in the worldliness that these events have become representative of.

Even if they don't agree or understand, you are letting them know you are doing what you believe the Lord is leading you to do and you have that right just like they have the right to celebrate these events. I other words, politely tell them to buzz off.

There are so many things that we dont agree with in churches already. You already mentioned a big one---justifying believers still living in sin.

All one can do is share God's Word where they'll hear it and when they let you know they aren't interested just move on and fish on the other side of the pond and find someone else to share with.

There are some that have a genuine desire to now the Lord but have been taught error in reformed theology social clubs (these are not actually churches) and will want to hear what you have to say.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

No one knows the date of Christ’s birth because the Jews did not celebrate birthdays......it has spiritistic origins in astrology. A birthdate was used to cast horoscopes, which was forbidden in God’s law. (Deut 18:9-12)

Ecclesiastes 7:1
A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth

The day of death is better than the day of birth for those that abides in Christ until the end of their life, otherwise the day they day is the beginning of all their problems

 

[Wynona]

Well that is very easily overcome when one realizes that you and God together make up the majority for your life.

Even if you found a church that taught near perfect doctrine and all the people loved you - the relationship you have with the Lord is first and foremost and everyone else is a distant second.

On judgment day it's going to be just you and the Lord confronting one another so we may as well live moment by moment each day recognizing that reality right now in our daily lives. Over the years I've had to learn that my fellowship is with the Lord primarily and I look to Him and His Word every moment and I receive His peace and joy by faith and that has become my reality which keep me in peace (see Isaiah 26:3, 1 Peter 5:7, Philippians 4:6, Psalms 55:22, Colossians 3:15)

Thank you for saying this.

Ive been so discouraged with all these terrible things I cannot control. My continuing in the Scriptures and prayer has suffered. You are right. We have the Lord. So we aren't alone.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Ecclesiastes 7:1
A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth

The day of death is better than the day of birth for those that abides in Christ until the end of their life, otherwise the day they day is the beginning of all their problems

Very true....on the day of ones birth we have not yet had a page written for God to ascertain the kind of person we will choose to be. Just as he allowed Adam and his wife to show him by their words and actions where their loyalty was, so he does with us.....the day we die, we have a record with God of who we really are from his perspective.....not our own, which could be flawed.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Ive been so discouraged with all these terrible things I cannot control. My continuing in the Scriptures and prayer has suffered. You are right. We have the Lord. So we aren't alone.

Sometimes, well all the time, we need to take the Kingdom of God by force as in forcing all things opposed to the Lord reigning over your life OUT and rearrange your thinking to where it's you and the Lord in fellowship which is the primary reason He created you, to share Himself with you and His desire is for you to share yourself with Him..

Maybe a nice season of fasting, prayer, thinking / speaking God's promises, and praise / worship are in order.

I've had great success with denying my body food while spending time alone with the Lord (cut off the news and limit interaction with others) as this helps reset your priorities so you get where Jesus is - He's not worried about all this stuff down here at all!

 

[The Learner]

Jeremiah 10:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold;

Sounds like Christmas to me.

Brother, friend I posted the full chapter in a better translation. It is clealy making idols.
Hebrew was my first Language as such I know the translation I posted is nearest to Hebrew.
Also, one does not put on decorations with a hammer and nails.

Jeremiah 10

King James Version

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10 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.
6 Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O Lord; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.
7 Who would not fear thee, O King of nations? for to thee doth it appertain: forasmuch as among all the wise men of the nations, and in all their kingdoms, there is none like unto thee.
8 But they are altogether brutish and foolish: the stock is a doctrine of vanities.
9 Silver spread into plates is brought from Tarshish, and gold from Uphaz, the work of the workman, and of the hands of the founder: blue and purple is their clothing: they are all the work of cunning men.
10 But the Lord is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king: at his wrath the earth shall tremble, and the nations shall not be able to abide his indignation.
11 Thus shall ye say unto them, The gods that have not made the heavens and the earth, even they shall perish from the earth, and from under these heavens.
12 He hath made the earth by his power, he hath established the world by his wisdom, and hath stretched out the heavens by his discretion.
13 When he uttereth his voice, there is a multitude of waters in the heavens, and he causeth the vapours to ascend from the ends of the earth; he maketh lightnings with rain, and bringeth forth the wind out of his treasures.
14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them.
15 They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.
16 The portion of Jacob is not like them: for he is the former of all things; and Israel is the rod of his inheritance: The Lord of hosts is his name.
17 Gather up thy wares out of the land, O inhabitant of the fortress.
18 For thus saith the Lord, Behold, I will sling out the inhabitants of the land at this once, and will distress them, that they may find it so.
19 Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous; but I said, Truly this is a grief, and I must bear it.
20 My tabernacle is spoiled, and all my cords are broken: my children are gone forth of me, and they are not: there is none to stretch forth my tent any more, and to set up my curtains.
21 For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the Lord: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.
22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.
23 O Lord, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.
24 O Lord, correct me, but with judgment; not in thine anger, lest thou bring me to nothing.
25 Pour out thy fury upon the heathen that know thee not, and upon the families that call not on thy name: for they have eaten up Jacob, and devoured him, and consumed him, and have made his habitation desolate.

 

[The Learner]

@Aunty Jane

brings up some good points. The topic at hand is the pagan origins of Christian holidays. It shouldn't matter if someone also holds to beliefs you don't agree with if they are bringing up fair points to the topic at hand.

I have been in a strange place for a long time now. I don't agree with Protestant or Catholic traditions. I don't run with any church.

That being said, I wish I could have a stronger moral conviction against holidays like Christmas and Easter because I find them so annoying, stressful, and shallow. I wish we had such a moral objection that we could refuse to participate.

I almost do. But its mostly self-serving.

But no, I don't think hardly any traditions surrounding Christmas and Easter have anything to do with honoring Jesus.

What is your problem with Worshiping Jesus?

 

[The Learner]

Come , get you out of mystery babylon that has corrupted from within Christendom .
Its temple will be destroyed on the day of the LORD . Its image of Jesus , of God and its love will save none .
GET up , And come out from within her my peoples that you partake not in her SIN and her sins
and so that you RECIEVE NOT THE PLAGUES she and her children shall recieve ON THE DAY OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST
whom their rainbow koran budda statue kissing love DENIED and TROD UNDER FOOT .
We got us many WiW that are amongst and even lead this people . Wolves in wool . It be time and high time
to bible up and let us learn THAT CHRIST , THAT GOD , THAT DOCTRINE ., THAT LOVE .

Context matters, Jer 10 is about Idols.

 

[The Learner]

Yep, if God says something is a sin it's "legalistic" to think we cannot do it since all our future sins are already forgiven so we can do all the sin we want, right?

This is what most churches teach these days.

Sure they'll tell you you should not do sin but they turn right around and falsely claim all future sins are already forgiven even before those sins are committed and when people here this they know it's all good, they can keep on living in sin!

Just don't let people at church know because they may not approve of your particular sin because they have their own sin that like to do .

Dan, what is your problem with worshipping Jesus our Lord, God and Savior?

 

[The Learner]

Our origins are Gentile-Christians which mean Pagans that converted to Christianity. After the 1st century the Gentile-Christians took the helm of the Church and it has been that way ever since. The Protestants if they trace their heritage back they were Pagans that converted to Christianity….I do not know of any Jewish-Protestants, even though there are some Jewish wannabes out there….There are some weird Protestant denominations like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Branch Davidians, Moonies, Shakers, and Voodooists.

The Pagans came from different regions and converted to Christianity but no one ask them to give up their heritages or cultures so a lot of that merged into Christianity and some of them were Christianized. No harm.

Then on the hand freedom of religion….There are Christian religions that do not celebrate holidays like the Jehovah’s Witnesses, Armstrongist, the True Jesus Church, the Church of God (Seventh-Day) etc, so they do have groups….it is their choice. No one is twisting their arms to celebrate holidays.

There is nothing in the New Testament that says you have to observe the Sabbath, the Lord’s Day, or any of our holidays. It says we should assemble….but no day is specified.

That is all freedom of choice. But keep in mind that the wedding ceremonies are also not required by the Bible and are strictly a Pagan custom….as it is now the average Christian wedding is a amalgamation of Pagan customs and rituals and the standard arrangement of vows come from the Catholics.

I celebrate all the main holidays.

check out Jews for Jesus

 

[The Learner]

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