"Heaven and earth shall pass away but My word (Bible) shall not pass away", as it " endures forever".
Avoiding : The Cults.. #2 : CALVINISM -"TULIP"
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"Heaven and earth shall pass away but My word (Bible) shall not pass away", as it " endures forever".
Ritajanice
Born-Again
His Living word endures forever.thats His Living Spirit..it can’t be contained...Gods Living Spirit is everywhere.
Waiting to make someone Born Again by His Living Spirit.
Spirit gives birth to spirit.
We are Born Again of imperishable/ incorruptible seed that LIVETH and abideth forever.
The word of God is alive.
It has to be so, as otherwise it could not be "the power of God, (the Gospel), unto Salvation".
Unbelievers.... read the bible, and they become born again. This happens all the time.
You can't become that, by reading a cereal box or a dictionary.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
If they read the Bible and become Born Again....then they become Born Again by the Living Holy Spirit..the written word doesn’t make you Born Again..only the Living Holy Spirit can do that.
Spirit gives birth to spirit.
The word of God is His Living Spirit.
The Gospel is not the Living Spirit.
It’s what it says it is....The gospel , The good news, all about Jesus.
The Gospel doesn’t Spirit gives birth to spirit.
Only the Living Spirit Of God can do that.xx
Eternally Grateful
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Sorry,I did mentioned the scripture. the book of John. did you try to investigate?
Anyway, here you go. The gospel according to John
1. receive him.
John 1: 12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name (no water baptism)
2. Be born again
John 3:
9 Nicodemus answered and said to Him, “How can these things be?”
10 Jesus answered and said to him, “Are you the teacher of Israel, and do not know these things? 11 Most assuredly, I say to you, We speak what We know and testify what We have seen, and you do not receive Our witness. 12 If I have told you earthly things and you do not believe, how will you believe if I tell you heavenly things? 13 No one has ascended to heaven but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man [b]who is in heaven. 14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up, 15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
18 “He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
(no water baptism)
3. Believe and you will live forever. do not believe recieve the wrath of God
John 3: 36 He who believes in the Son has everlasting life; and he who does not believe the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.”
(No water baptism)
4. - Living water flowing to eternal life. just ask, and he will give it
John 4: 10 Jesus answered and said to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who says to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”
11 The woman said to Him, “Sir, You have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep. Where then do You get that living water? 12 Are You greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, as well as his sons and his livestock?”
13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again, 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst. But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”
(again, no water baptism)
5.Hear the word, Believe will live forever, and not come to judgment
John 5: 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
6. The food that endures forever!
A. Jesus will give us
John 6: 27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him.”
B - Come to Jesus, believe in him - Never hunger or thirst and He will never cast out
John 6: 35 And Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst. 36 But I said to you that you have seen Me and yet do not believe. 37 All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will [f]by no means cast out.
C - Everyone who sees and believes will not be lost, will be raised on the last day and will live forever
38 For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39 This is the will of the Father who sent Me, that of all He has given Me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up at the last day. 40 And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day.”
D - Eat the bread from heaven - you will never die (the food which endures forever)
John 6: 47 Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life. 48 I am the bread of life. 49 Your fathers ate the manna in the wilderness, and are dead. 50 This is the bread which comes down from heaven, that one may eat of it and not die. 51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever; and the bread that I shall give is My flesh, which I shall give for the life of the world.”
(Once again, No mention of water baptism)
7 - He re-affirms John 4, Drink living water by believing in him
John 7 - 37 On the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, saying, “If anyone thirsts, let him come to Me and drink. 38 He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water.”
(again no mention of water baptism)
So there you go. I am sure I could find more. But even paul re-affirms this truth
1. Call on the name of the lord in Faith and you will be saved
Romans 10: 9 that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, “Whoever believes on Him will not be put to shame.” 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek, for the same Lord over all is rich to all who call upon Him. 13 For “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
(No mention of water baptism)
2. Trust in Christ, and you will have redemption
7 In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace 8 which He made to abound toward us in all wisdom and [b]prudence, 9 having made known to us the mystery of His will, according to His good pleasure which He purposed in Himself, 10 that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, [c]both which are in heaven and which are on earth—in Him. 11 In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will, 12 that we who first trusted in Christ should be to the praise of His glory.
(no mention of water baptism)
3. Hear the word and believe, you are sealed with the spirit
Eph 1: 13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
(no mention of water Baptism)
4. God raised us up through salvation which is by Grace, not works
eph 2: 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead in trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up together, and made us sit together in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast.
(no mention of water baptism)
5. Saved by Gods mercy, not by our good deed (water baptism being a good deed or work of righteousness) Bing justified by faith (not water baptism)
Titus 3: 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that having been justified by His grace we should become heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
(Not only is water baptism not mentioned, but it is defeated as a means of justification or salvation. as it is the one of many works of righteousness which children of God do.)
I can find many more. But I hope you get the picture
Eternally Grateful
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Eternally Grateful
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This is true.
Why is why it must be acted on By God for us to see.
It just does not happen as the fatalist says it soes
"it Pleased God.......by the foolishness of PREACHING (the Gospel)...... To Save those who Believe"..
First YOU believe, and then God will save you every single time.
God requires YOUR FAITH in Christ......not His.
"ALL that call on the name of Jesus, shall be saved"...
Ritajanice
Born-Again
That is your belief system,, which I have no problem with.
I was Born Again of imperishable seed....by the Living Spirit Of God...so I was Born Again differently to you.
Which I have explained many, many times,xx
yes, those bible verses are my belief system., you are correct.
I do believe that "All who call on the Name of Jesus, shall be saved".
I do believe that when Jesus Said...>"ALL who believe in Me, i give unto them eternal life, and they shall never go to Hell (perish)".
What i dont believe is lying Calvinism and TULIP that rewrites those verses According to Satan's dictation.. like this.
"All that are caused to believe, that i have caused to believe in me, shall be saved, and only them"...
"All that i cause to call on me, who i have pre-chosen to call on me, because i caused them to call,... .only those will i save".
Ritajanice
Born-Again
As I said those Bible verses are how you believe you become Born Again...no problem.
I became Born Again differently to you.xx
I became Born Again having never read a Bible...I became Born Again by the Living Holy Spirit.
Spirit gives birth to spirit....
The Living Word is Jesus, and also the scriptures, which are His Word. The two are not separate.
2 Timothy 3:14-17
[14]But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
[15]And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
[16]All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
[17]That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Psalm 119:105
[105]NUN. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
Isaiah 40:8
[8]The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
Proverbs 30:5-6
[5]Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
[6]Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
John 15:3
[3]Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
John 12:46-49
[46]I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
[47]And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
[48]He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
[49]For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
Being born again, can only happen, and only happens, when God's Spirit birth's the believer's Spirit,= as "born again".
You Give God your faith in Christ, and God washes your sin in the Blood of Jesus, and once that is completed, your are "made righteous"..
And NOW, being "made righteous".... God can Join Himself to your Spirit, (born again)....= but not until ALL your sin is resolved, first.
So, to be born again, before you sin is Forgiven, would be God joining His Spirit to you, while you are still in your sins. (Unforgiven).
That is Calvin's LIE, that is TULIP's Lie, and its a lie from Hell.
Its one of Satan's finest lies. (Doctrines).
So you do not believe in the validity, divine inspiration, and authority of Scripture? You base your beliefs solely on your mind's understanding of your experience?
Ritajanice
Born-Again
The Living word is the Living Holy Spirit.
The written word does not make you Born Again...only the Living Spirit can do that.
Spirit gives birth to spirit, Born Of The Spirit..Born Again of imperishable seed.
I have posted reams of scripture regarding this.
Post scripture to support what you're saying. You've posted scripture, but none of them say what you're concluding/saying.
I think it's futile to help you get it.
No its not.
You've used the wrong "word".
See... its The Living "W"ord, is the Holy Spirit. = upper case "W"< as found in a bible..
Open yours and and read JOHN 1.. .and the Word "W".. .=uppercase... "was God"..
"CHRIST (the Living Word) is THAT Spirit" = The Holy Sprit., and "God is A Spirit", = "W.ord"... not "word".
Ritajanice
Born-Again
I have already explained to you..we are Born Again by the Living Holy Spirit...the inspired scripture, backs up the Holy Spirit Living word.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit Of Jesus...that is who we receive into our hearts when we become Born Again.
| 1 Peter 1 ► |
(2 Peter 1:1–2) 1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, To the elect who are exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosena 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. A Living Hope 3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time. 6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in various trials 7so that the proven character of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 8Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls. 10Concerning this salvation, the prophets who foretold the grace to come to you searched and investigated carefully, 11trying to determine the time and setting to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow. 12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. A Call to Holiness (Hebrews 12:14–17) 13Therefore prepare your minds for action.c Be sober-minded. Set your hope fully on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not conform to the passions of your former ignorance. 15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”d 17Since you call on a Father who judges each one’s work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners. 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or spot. 20He was known before the foundation of the world, but was revealed in the last times for your sake. 21Through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and glorified Him; and so your faith and hope are in God. The Enduring Word (Isaiah 40:6–8) 22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For, “All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, 25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f And this is the word that was proclaimed to you. |
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