Eternally Grateful
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this is a faulty interpretation
If I get drunk and drive and live, I committed a sin that was not into death
if I get drunk and drive and get killed in the process. I have committed a sin unto death
What Is "Salvation" In 1 Corinthians 10?
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If I get drunk and drive and live, I committed a sin that was not into death
if I get drunk and drive and get killed in the process. I have committed a sin unto death
Eternally Grateful
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You just proved my point for me.
They did not believe, thus where not saved, proven by the fact they continued in sin.
Are you actually arguing with John now?
He is the one who teaches a distinction between sins, not me.
Eternally Grateful
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No, actually, I proved that the point of the writer of Hebrews was that it was not enough to start off in the right direction, but you must maintain that right direction.
Hebrews 10
36You need to persevere, so that after you have done the will of God, you will receive what He has promised.
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38But My righteous one will live by faith;i
and if [My righteous one] shrinks back,
I will take no pleasure in [My righteous one].”j
39But we are not of those [righteous ones who] shrink back and are destroyed [as the ones mentioned in Hebrews 6], but of those who have faith and preserve their souls.
Let's look at something John wrote:
1 John 3:1-3 KJV
1) Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2) Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3) And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Do you believe this passage is true as written?
Much love!
Behold
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IF, according to what you've posted here you dont understand that The Cross of Christ is forgiveness...of Sin.
= THEM...., how can a person BELIEVE correctly if they dont understand what they are Believing .. for???
Its the redemption of it....its the cleansing of it.....its the eternal payment for sin......that is Christ's Sacrifice, on the Cross.
"Jesus is the ONE TIME Eternal Sacrifice, for Sin"...
So, that is more then "deliverance".. that is "remission", "forgiveness". that is to have it Stamped.. "Paid in Full" by the Cross of Christ.
This is Christ becoming the propitiation, for the sin of the world, one BELIEVER at a time.
You can make a thread about your passage if you like, I've made a thread about 1 Corinthians 10.
Yes, we are "saved" by the blood of a lamb, and have received the Presence, and have been baptized, and eat spiritual food--all were true of the Jews, yet they fell under God's wrath for sinning after having been saved. This was written to teach us Christians about Christianity.
Hebrews 10:38-39 KJV
38) Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.
39) But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.
Who are the "we" who are not of them who draw back unto perdition? The writer of Hebrews said this before the end of their life. Do you realize the significance of that? Like, the statement implies that it won't happen, which agrees perfectly with John. And Paul.
Much love!
Irrelevant.
The point is that merely "believing" isn't enough to obtain eternal life, and John's texts are being abused.
I'm challenging your interpretation of 1 Cor 10 as I compare to other passages.
I'll leave you to it.
Much love!
Behold
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You want me to read 4 pages of This Thread, to find where you posted it.. because you are too lazy to post the verse for me?
It wont be necessary, i'll just track what you are doing now, and that will suffice.
Or if you want to post the verse, if you can, then i can respond to it, but im not going to read 4 pages of this Thread, because you dont want to cut and past the verse.
The entirety of Hebrews refers to the danger of starting out right, but ending wrong, and Hebrews 10, in particular, touches on that--"if we go on sinning willfully after having come to the knowledge of the truth...".
He's encouraging the audience that they are to continue in faith--just as he does in Hebrews 6.
1 Corinthians 10
1I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our forefathers were all under the cloud, and that they all passed through the sea. 2They were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea. 3They all ate the same spiritual food 4and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. 5Nevertheless, God was not pleased with most of them, for they were struck down in the wilderness.
6These things took place as examples to keep us from craving evil things as they did. 7Do not be idolaters, as some of them were. As it is written: “The people sat down to eat and to drink, and got up to indulge in revelry.”a 8We should not commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand of them died. 9We should not test Christ,b as some of them did, and were killed by snakes. 10And do not complain, as some of them did, and were killed by the destroying angel.c
11Now these things happened to them as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the fulfillment of the ages has come. 12So the one who thinks he is standing firm should be careful not to fall. 13No temptation has seized you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; He will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear. But when you are tempted, He will also provide an escape, so that you can stand up under it. 14Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry.
