Idolatry

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MatthewG

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Isn’t idolatry where you place your focus on an item in which you devote yourself to in place of Yahavah who is Spirit and is God above all other gods?
 

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The actual Holy Spirit comes with fruit...

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. - Galatians 5

Nothing here on knowledge!

Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. - 1 Corinthians 8:1
 
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And... Now as touching things offered unto idols, we know that we all have knowledge. - 1 Corinthians 8:1
 
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Gods name. Many people don’t like to use Gods name cause they don’t think it matters.

Yahweh, Yehova, Yahavah , Jehovah, YHVH

they say the name is so sacred we are not allows to use it… like that Voldemort character on Harry Potter, but he was evil.
 

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The actual Holy Spirit comes with fruit...

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. - Galatians 5

Nothing here on knowledge!

Knowledge puffeth up, but charity edifieth. - 1 Corinthians 8:1
I was wondering if my definition was correct. Wasn’t that what the people of Israel did? People can make other things their god and not the true living God, Yahavah. Which resides on the matter of the heart condition?
 

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I was wondering if my definition was correct. Wasn’t that what the people of Israel did? People can make other things their god and not the true living God, Yahavah. Which resides on the matter of the heart condition?
Yes... And covetous itself can be idolatry.
 
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There is difference between here and there then! Thank you, for your help, rocky.
 

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There is difference between here and there then! Thank you, for your help, rocky.

And... The Holy Spirit is not creepy! If some kind of special revelation has turned people into basic creeps, then that ought to raise flags as the source as not coming from God.
 
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And... The Holy Spirit is not creepy! If some kind of special revelation has turned people into basic creeps, then that ought to raise flags as the source as not coming from God.
As long as revelation falls in truth and is by the spirit, I suppose that’s ok. If it’s misleading and leading to having hatred and less loving there is something wrong there.
 

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Gods name. Many people don’t like to use Gods name cause they don’t think it matters.

Yahweh, Yehova, Yahavah , Jehovah, YHVH

they say the name is so sacred we are not allows to use it… like that Voldemort character on Harry Potter, but he was evil.
I don't like to address the Lord by his name in the same way I didn't address my parents by their names. I addressed my dad as "Dad," not as "Elbert."
 

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Isn’t idolatry where you place your focus on an item in which you devote yourself to in place of Yahavah who is Spirit and is God above all other gods?
That is my understanding of "idolatry." That item could be a person.
 

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I don't like to address the Lord by his name in the same way I didn't address my parents by their names. I addressed my dad as "Dad," not as "Elbert."
Do you think God wanting his name to be known is of any importance regardless if you decide to say Gods name or not?

That is my understanding of "idolatry." That item could be a person.
Sure it can be also a person, they put priority over God on that one person, focusing on non faithfulness to Yahavah.
 

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Do you think God wanting his name to be known is of any importance regardless if you decide to say Gods name or not?
If I didn't know your name, and you didn't know my name, we could still be friends. And so it is with the Lord, I think. It's the friendship that counts.
 

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Do you think God wanting his name to be known is of any importance regardless if you decide to say Gods name or not?


Sure it can be also a person, they put priority over God on that one person, focusing on non faithfulness to Yahavah.
I can't remember ever hearing anyone call the Lord "Yahavah" before.
 

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If I didn't know your name, and you didn't know my name, we could still be friends. And so it is with the Lord, I think. It's the friendship that counts.
Yeah it doesn’t matter. But to God it was important to him.
I can't remember ever hearing anyone call the Lord "Yahavah" before.
Unique isn’t it.
 

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Did Jesus ever address his Father by his name, or even use his name?

Where did you see him called that?

I believe faithfully Jesus worshipped the God of Israel who’s known as YHVH, or YHWH. So yes I believe he contested his Fathers name as well. You know God desires for his name to be known right? The Bible expresses that he desires it to be so.

People deciding nic-picking over a perferred name is something I do not want to get into conversation about, if you prefer not to use a name, so be it, Bob. Amen.
 
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Who is Yahavah?
The name "Yahavah" appears to be a variation or transliteration related to the Tetragrammaton, "YHWH" (יהוה), which is the most sacred name of God in the Hebrew Bible. However, "Yahavah" itself is not a widely recognized or standard form of this name.

Background on the Tetragrammaton (YHWH):
YHWH is the four-letter Hebrew name of God, often referred to as the Tetragrammaton. It is considered the most sacred name of God in Jewish tradition.
In ancient Hebrew, the language was written without vowels, so the pronunciation of YHWH was not explicitly recorded. The most common scholarly reconstructions of this name include "Yahweh," though the exact pronunciation is uncertain.

Variations and Transliterations:

Jehovah: This is a Latinized form of YHWH, created by inserting the vowels from "Adonai" (another name for God in Hebrew, meaning "Lord") into the consonants YHWH. This form became popular in English translations and Christian tradition, especially in the King James Version.
Yahavah: This form might be an attempt to transliterate YHWH with different vowels, but it is not a commonly accepted or widely used form in scholarly or religious contexts. It could be a variant used in certain groups or traditions, but it lacks the historical and scholarly backing that forms like "Yahweh" or "Jehovah" have.


"Yahavah" is not a standard or historically recognized form of the divine name YHWH. The more accepted forms are "Yahweh" and "Jehovah," with "Yahweh" being favored in most modern scholarly contexts. The exact origin of "Yahavah" might come from a specific group or modern interpretation, but it does not have a significant historical or textual basis in mainstream religious scholarship.

I don't know Yahavah-but I know Jesus Christ.