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A new website is out: Evangelicals for Harris.

This pastor explains what is happening. They are trying to redefine Christianity. It is not Biblical Christianity.

In general discussion, I also posted about Tim Walz's church... please check it out. His church even uses pronouns on name tags. Also, they recite The Sparkle Creed (it's total lunacy).
 

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Isn't free speech wonderful? Any jerk can post on YouTube and find other jerks who swallow their tripe!

You say "This pastor explains what is happening." I say "This pastor got his head out of his ass long enough to explain what he thinks is happening." And he's wrong. Harris's "deep respect for all faith traditions" does NOT attempt to redefine Christianity as Universalism.
 
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I wonder if these 'evangelicals' agree with Christ saying

5 Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
 

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God the Father set His seal on Christ the Son as the only way to come back to Him and have life.

You can respect other ways to God? Not and be true to Christ, for He said, if you are not with me you are against me and you scatter as a destroyer- wolf tearing to pieces His people.

What do people not understand about the gospel of Christ? You do not get forgiven your sins against God by becoming Buddhist, Hindu, Islamic. All other religions are thieves and robbers, they take away your eternal life you would have had with God by believing in His Son.

Acts 10

42 And He commanded us to preach to the people, and to testify that it is He who was ordained by God to be Judge of the living and the dead.

43 To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission[a] of sins.”

44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word.

John 10
“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. 2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. 4 And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. 5 Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers.” 6 Jesus used this illustration, but they did not understand the things which He spoke to them.

7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep. 8 All who ever came [a]before Me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep did not hear them. 9 I am the door. If anyone enters by Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.

10 The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.

11 “I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd gives His life for the sheep.
 

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I wonder if these 'evangelicals' agree with Christ saying

5 Thomas said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, and how can we know the way?”

6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
I imagine they would. But how they define it would vary?
I've even heard it misquoted as "the way, the truth, and the light."

Interesting that the term Evangelicals is being used. Based on the intended audience for the website, I would think that the term "Evangelical" would be somewhat of a "dirty" word, associated with Trump supports. (and worse) - LOL

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1 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep

7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep

Get a mind picture of someone trying to enter into heaven, the house of God, by not using the door, who is Christ.
Such a person is a thief and robber. If it was your house being invaded by someone sneaking in some other way, (home invasion), well that has a bad ending.
 

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1 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who does not enter the sheepfold by the door, but climbs up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

2 But he who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep

7 Then Jesus said to them again, “Most assuredly, I say to you, I am the door of the sheep

Get a mind picture of someone trying to enter into heaven, the house of God, by not using the door, who is Christ.
Such a person is a thief and robber. If it was your house being invaded by someone sneaking in some other way, (home invasion), well that has a bad ending.
Interesting that it does not say they (the thieves and robbers) couldn't get in,
but that their presence wasn't legitimate. Reminds me of this passage.
Notice the king calls him "friend". (not enemy)

Matthew 22:10-13 NIV
So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find,
the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes.
12 He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.
13 “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside,
into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

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I doubt Walz saw this video, much less swallowed its message -- like you swallowed Pastor Michael Grant's. You'll regurgitate anything that is anti-Biden/Harris/Walz, regardless of its truth or falsity. Fact checking is unimportant to you. Slamming the Dems is far more important to you. As it is to Trump. I'm no fan of Harris or Walz, but I am a HUGE fan of the truth.
 

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I doubt Walz saw this video, much less swallowed its message -- like you swallowed Pastor Michael Grant's. You'll regurgitate anything that is anti-Biden/Harris/Walz, regardless of its truth or falsity. Fact checking is unimportant to you. Slamming the Dems is far more important to you. As it is to Trump. I'm no fan of Harris or Walz, but I am a HUGE fan of the truth.
I live in Minneapolis. I watched our city burn while Walz did nothing to stop it. I watched BLM terrorize our city after the death of George Floyd while Walz supported them. And survived the Covid shut down that went on WAY too long. We don't want Walz in the White House.

Did you visit this website?

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I see the video sparkle creed supports sexual immorality. And the author is a lesbian.

The Sparkle Creed was circulated in 2021 by the Rev. Rachel Small Stokes of Immanuel United Church of Christ in Louisville, Kentucky. A Shower of Stoles website biography notes that she was raised United Methodist, served as a missionary in that denomination and trained for the ministry. However, she switched to the United Church of Christ — which began ordaining gay ministers in 1972 — before being ordained in 2009 and marrying her lesbian partner in 2012.


True worshippers worship Father God in spirit and in truth.

God rejects false worshipping as it is not worshipping Him in truth.

21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

25 The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming” (who is called Christ). “When He comes, He will tell us all things.”

26 Jesus said to her, “I who speak to you am He.
 
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  1. 1 Corinthians 6:13
    Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods, but God will destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.
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  2. 1 Corinthians 6:18
    Flee sexual immorality. Every sin that a man does is outside the body, but he who commits sexual immorality sins against his own body.
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  3. 1 Corinthians 7:2
    Nevertheless, because of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife, and let each woman have her own husband.
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  4. 1 Corinthians 10:8
    Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell;
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  5. 1 Thessalonians 4:3
    For this is the will of God, your sanctification: that you should abstain from sexual immorality;
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  6. Jude 1:7
    as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
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  7. Revelation 2:14
    But I have a few things against you, because you have there those who hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit sexual immorality.
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  8. Revelation 2:20
    Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.
 
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The Narrow Way​

13 “Enter by the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and there are many who go in by it. 14 [c]Because narrow is the gate and [d]difficult is the way which leads to life, and there are few who find it.

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits​

15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them.

I Never Knew You​

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

Build on the Rock​

24 “Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 25 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock.

26 “But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 27 and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall.”

28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 29 for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

Building a life on the sands of the sea, the end of which is an inherited eternal destruction as it was not founded on truth but a lie.
That is what you end up with at the end.
 

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Interesting that it does not say they (the thieves and robbers) couldn't get in,
but that their presence wasn't legitimate. Reminds me of this passage.
Notice the king calls him "friend". (not enemy)

Matthew 22:10-13 NIV
So the servants went out into the streets and gathered all the people they could find,
the bad as well as the good, and the wedding hall was filled with guests.
11 “But when the king came in to see the guests, he noticed a man there who was not wearing wedding clothes.
12 He asked, ‘How did you get in here without wedding clothes, friend?’ The man was speechless.
13 “Then the king told the attendants, ‘Tie him hand and foot, and throw him outside,
into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.’

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Why does that remind me of the Snake Poem?
LOL
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So what would be the purpose behind this movement?
It's not to bring in real Christians. By real I mean biblically based.
So what is the tactic?
Is it to get christians angry and to become "zealous" in their defence?
Are they trying to get a reaction?
Remember, they are Legion, meaning many. And they have infiltrated even the most sacred places in our beliefs.
But they are also exposing themselves while they are trying to draw us out. Almost like a dare.

This reminds me of the 2024 Olympics Opening ceremony where they outright in your face, broadcast around the world, BLASPHEMY.
Be thankful you have been blessed to see through the fog and you have grown in knowledge and wisdom.
Don't take these for granted. Not many see what we see.
Crafty little devils with nasty poison rolling off their tongues.
Thank You God for opening our eyes and having us hear.

Learning to discern is a gift.

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