When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

[David in NJ]

He did not agree that there are any dual fulfillments of any Bible prophecies.

He agreed with the Holy Scripture that is dual prophecy = smart thing to do!!!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

He agreed with the Holy Scripture that is dual prophecy = smart thing to do!!!

No, he did not. Let's ask him to see if that is true, shall we?

@covenantee , is David in NJ's statement above about you true?

 

[covenantee]

He agreed with the Holy Scripture that is dual prophecy = smart thing to do!!!

No, he did not. Let's ask him to see if that is true, shall we?

@covenantee , is David in NJ's statement above about you true?

@David in NJ, in which post do you think that I "agreed with the Holy Scripture that is dual prophecy = smart thing to do!!!" ?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

@David in NJ, in which post do you think that I "agreed with the Holy Scripture that is dual prophecy = smart thing to do!!!" ?

And there it is. @David in NJ, please apologize for misrepresenting my friend covenantee.

 

[David in NJ]

@David in NJ, in which post do you think that I "agreed with the Holy Scripture that is dual prophecy = smart thing to do!!!" ?

Not certain of which post and would have to go back and look or you can find it for us - thank you

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Not certain of which post and would have to go back and look or you can find it for us - thank you

The post doesn't exist. Why can't you just admit that you're wrong and that you applied something to him that he never said?

 

[covenantee]

Not certain of which post and would have to go back and look or you can find it for us - thank you

Sorry bro, I can't find what I didn't post.

 

[David in NJ]

Sorry bro, I can't find what I didn't post.

Ok, I will find it.

In the meantime, you and @Spiritual Israelite can decide on whether you AGREE or DISAGREE with GOD'S WORD

Isaiah 46:10
“Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying;
"My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:”


Dwell on this:
#1 - God knows all things BEFORE they come to pass = Isaiah 46:10

#2 - God established dual prophecy because He knows the plans of wicked men.
"What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun." = Ecclesiastes

#3 - "Not one jot or tittle will pass until ALL THINGS are fulfilled" = LORD JESUS CHRIST

#4 - Dual prophecy does not necessitate the "exact identical" re-creation necessitating the exact same individuals.
However, pay careful attention to TRUTH = Matthew 23:29-31 = LORD JESUS CHRIST

Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets and adorn the monuments of the righteous, and say,
‘If we had lived in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.’

“Therefore you are witnesses against yourselves that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets"

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Ok, I will find it.

No, you will not find it. It doesn't exist.

 

[David in NJ]

No, you will not find it. It doesn't exist.

lol

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

lol

lol

 

[David in NJ]

lol

lol

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

lol

When do you plan on showing us where covenantee "agreed with the Holy Scripture that is dual prophecy = smart thing to do!!!"? It can't be hard to find if he actually said that.

 

[David in NJ]

When do you plan on showing us where covenantee "agreed with the Holy Scripture that is dual prophecy = smart thing to do!!!"? It can't be hard to find if he actually said that.

When i get the time.
Or
You can go find it by looking at his post to which i responded to.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

When i get the time.
Or
You can go find it by looking at his post to which i responded to.

LOL. You're being very dishonest here. It would take not much more time than it took you to make that post. Why can't you be honest and admit that you either made it up that he agreed with you or that you misunderstood what he said. He clearly does not agree with you as he has confirmed twice now.

 

[Timtofly]

LOL! I do not deny Satan's existence at all. He is a SPIRIT. Not created being. The problem is that you (and many of you) do not understand who Satan and the angels are. There was no spirit of disobedience before the episode in the garden. So Satan wasn't created in Heaven. That spirit was conceived within Eve and Adam when they themselves disobeyed - the moment they lusted after the fruit and sinned and that was the change of spirit and introduction of sin. Man's evil spirit is his own, just as we had it as our spirit to begin with! The Serpent was merely symbolic of that spirit of man.

There was no sin in the flesh of Adam and Eve until in their spirit they disobeyed.

Eze 28:15
Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

That's a man who was created perfect and in whom there was no spirit to disobey until that day it was conceived by lust and brought forth death. Nothing is talked about Satan being created in heaven so iniquity found him in Heaven. Heaven?! God forbid that iniquity shows up in His Heaven! That is why you got brainwashed about Lucifer, thinking that he was a good angel that God created in heaven. This is not what Scripture said. Your Sunday School taught you that. God was talking about ADAM in Ezekiel 28.

Of course, like the temple in 70AD, you will deny this because you have been brainwashed by false doctrines. :-)

Satan is just another star created on the 4th day. The stars are created beings. Their physical makeup distorted by modern science. A spirit is just a physical flame of fire, having a form those on earth seem to fail to understand. Jesus shown Luke the sun on the mount of Transfiguration. The sons of God have the same physical fire aspect, but that spirit either waits in heaven before the throne of God, the GWT, or have become demons, able to enter the mind of other humans. The sun is a star, a flame of fire, a spirit, in other words an angel created on the th day as a great light to shine in the firmament like all the other stars. Satan was the chief morning star, who influenced a third of those stars created on the 4th day, to leave their posts in the firmament. They all are bound in chains of darkness, waiting for the 5th Trumpet to sound. Those stars will again have physical form, and torment those on earth.

Adam was just one of thousands of sons of God created on the 6th day. Eve was taken out of Adam. That was the separation of gender, at that point. The sons of God are genderless in heaven, like the angels, without the need for marriage.

We all are too attached to our sinful physical condition, and project that onto the reality of Paradise. Heaven is not like earth, nor ever will be. That does not mean the angels are not created beings. It just means we don't know their exact physical makeup. Angels are created beings, just like us, the sons of God, but are called stars instead.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Satan is just another star created on the 4th day. The stars are created beings. Their physical makeup distorted by modern science. A spirit is just a physical flame of fire, having a form those on earth seem to fail to understand.

So, Satan is just up the sky hanging out in the same place at all times? That doesn't seem to match the description of Satan in the Bible. Was it a star in the sky who was tempting Jesus in the desert for 40 days and nights?

 

[David in NJ]

There are two types of ends in Matthew 24. The first is in verse 3, referring to the end of the world/age, i.e. Christ's future Second Coming. The Greek word is sunteleia.

The subsequent ends are in verses 6, 13, 14. They are a different Greek word, telos, and they refer to the end of OT Jerusalem and Israel in 70 AD.

@Spiritual Israelite

Here is @covenantee Post #548

My response is Post #549

 

[David in NJ]

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So, Satan is just up the sky hanging out in the same place at all times? That doesn't seem to match the description of Satan in the Bible. Was it a star in the sky who was tempting Jesus in the desert for 40 days and nights?

GREAT picture of yourself !!!

 

[covenantee]

@Spiritual Israelite

Here is @covenantee Post #548

My response is Post #549

Sorry bro; there is not the slightest hint of dual fulfillment in post 548.

Your presumption in post 549 is entirely your own.