“Once For All”

[Sister-n-Christ]

Romans 3:26-31 KJV
26) To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
27) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
28) Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
29) Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also:
30) Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
31) Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

The requirement for faith upholds the validity of the Law.

The point isn't the the Law becomes meaningless since we are not saved by keeping the Law. What Paul is saying here is that because we Have to be saved by faith, this shows that the Law does in fact condemn us. And therefore we do in fact have to be saved by faith, because no one keeps or has kept all the Law.

Think about what I've said. Let me know if you want to discuss this further. I'll let you know I'm fully convinced of the truth of these things, and I am fully convinced this is clearly taught in the Bible.

This does not render me Lawless, rather, under a higher Law, the "Law of Christ", AKA the Law of Love.

Much love!

Right. Justified by faith. God declaring us righteous by faith in the work of Christ.

" ...without the deeds of the law."

That's not saying the law ceases to mean something to us. Nor did Paul say that.

I appreciate in your closing remarks you shared,admitted, discussion with you is a waste of time. You will not accept if you are proven wrong because you don't think you can be. My words .

Thanks for your time.

 

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That's not saying the law ceases to mean something to us. Nor did Paul say that.

Please hear me out. I will be patient, I will listen to you, and I will respond to your thoughts and views. You don't know me. I'm a guy that values truth, that's all I care about. That's why I became Christian over 40 years ago. If I see something different, and I see how I've been mistaken, I embrace it. What? Do I think I have all knowledge? All understanding?

I truly hope you don't misunderstand me. I'm not lawless. I'm under a different Law, more demanding, yet not coerced, but I keep it because of love. I keep the Law of Christ (as I am able) because of how much God loves me. He only has my good at heart. Out of His love for me, I try as much as I am able to do what is pleasing to Him. But not to make myself right with Him. Jesus did that, and I cannot add to it.

If we are not living in keeping with the Law and it's principles as they can be applied to us, I'd say we need to make sure we are walking in the Lord. Some of the Law cannot really be applied to us today. Tithes, sacrifices, these are impossible with the passing of the temple and the Levitical priesthood. There are a number of these laws that we don't do, like burning moldy clothes, eating Kosher, dipping things in running streams to purify them, There is much like that.

But to the point. Let's just use the 10 commandments. To be clear, these were never intended to be the only Law, or a divisible part from the rest. God's covenant with Israel was "All that You say we will do." This is why Jesus referred to "the Law and the Prophets", it was all the covenant, all that you say we will do.

If I'm worshiping other gods, and not just in love with God, something is plainly wrong. If I'm sleeping around, again, plainly wrong. If I'm lying about others, wrong wrong wrong. If I'm not resting on the 7th day, well, now we get to the new covenant. God teaches us that the truth sabbath rest is in Christ. Just as God rested from all His work, so we are to rest from all our work, because we trust in Christ.

This rest is that we rest from works, and in particular, works of Law. But again, that doesn't mean "lawless". Here is a verse that examplifies what I'm saying:

Ephesians 4:24-25 KJV
24) And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25) Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.

We are to not lie to one another, but instead to speak truth. But not as a matter of obedience to Law, rather, because we are members of one another. We are family. We are connected. We are to live that way. Speaking Truth, this is to do righteousness.

Ephesians 4:28 KJV
28) Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.

Living in service to others, this is holiness, being the person God intends us to be. But not because we are interpreting a Law that has much we cannot do, but because we are new creations, created to do those works God appointed for us to do. Not what we think we should do because we endeavor to keep the Law, but what God wants us to do, because we know how much He loves us, in what He's already given for us, given to us.

Having a sense of how much He loves me, I want to be pleasing to Him.

Much love!