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Remember that i told you that when you BELIEVE on/in Jesus.. when you give God your faith in Christ, you have eaten Him, and that is how you = receive Eternal Life.

Now, look at your verse.... @nedsk

"""""Whoever feeds upon my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life".

Now, let JOHN explain..."eating Him".. so that He (Jesus) will give you "eternal life".




""""""so that everyone who BELIEVES in Him will have eternal life""""

English Standard Version
that whoever BELIEVES in Jesus may have eternal life.

Berean Standard Bible
that everyone who BELIEVES in Him may have Eternal Life.

Berean Literal Bible
so that everyone BELIEVING in Jesus may have eternal life.

King James Bible
That whosoever BELIEVING in Jesus should not perish, but have Eternal LIFE.

New King James Version
that whoever believes in Jesus should not perish but have Eternal Life.

New American Standard Bible
so that everyone who believes will have in Jesus.

NASB 1995
so that whoever BELIEVES will in Him have eternal life.

NASB 1977
that whoever believes may in Jesus have eternal life.

Legacy Standard Bible
so that whoever BELIEVES will in Jesus have Eternal LIFE.

Amplified Bible
so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life [after physical death, and will actually live forever].

Christian Standard Bible
so that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
so that everyone who believes in Him will have eternal life.

American Standard Version
that whosoever BELEVETH may in him have ETERNAL LIFE.
But you don't believe Jesus when he says "Whoever feeds upon my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life and I will raise him up on the last day."

You can dance around it all you like but you ignore Jesus to pay attention to John. John is saying believe in Jesus but you don't like what Jesus is saying just like the people in verses 52 and 60. You play pretend very well though I'll give you that.
 
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Ok, iim going to allow you to try to defend this MARY godless nonsense, this fake Religion.

Now, let me state the Gospel truth that is.....= Jesus on The Cross is our only Salvation, as He alone bore our sins, and that includes Mary's sin., and hopefully the sin of all her Children....(If they believed).

Now, there is this fake religious history that is created by the "cult of Mary" that is based on "the Rosary".

Now, History teaches that "The Rosary", and the false belief tied to the Rosary, truly came into effect, somtime around 1200-1300 AD.

So, This means that lond dead and buried Mary never had a Rosary, and there was no "Rosary" found in the Catholic NT, or any Real NT.

Jesus never used a Rosary.
Peter never used a Rosary
Paul never used a Rosary
There is no Rosary found in any bible, or greek text, or Latin text.

"the Rosary" is a religious fiction that is tied to Mary worship, and both are not of God.

And of course "praying the rosary" is also just one more Religious man made invention created by the Mary-Cult, that is not even associated with the actual Mother of Jesus as the Rosary beads were not even created when Mary was alive.
WOW – you’re even more clueless than I thought . . .

For starters – we were talking about the CANON OF SCRIPTURE,
YOU not only changed the subject – you didn’t quote my post because you pretty much LOST that argument . . .

As for Jesus never having prayed the RosaryHOW could He?? The Mysteries of the Rosary are ALL based on events in His life and He hadn’t live them yet.

Do your homework before making stupas remarks like that . . .

So, here we see 5 Lies, produced by the Catholic MARy Cult, and believed by deceived "cult of Mary" members".
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1. Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.​


For children: If you pray the Rosary, God will help you make good choices when you’re not sure what to do.

2. I promise my special protection and the greatest graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.​


For children: When you pray the Rosary, Mary promises to make an extra effort to protect you and send you special blessings.

3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against hell; it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.​

For children: When you pray the Rosary, it helps you to be good. If you struggle with a certain bad habit, like lying or hitting your siblings, praying the Rosary will help you overcome these habits. Praying the Rosary is like riding around in a tank! You’ll have super strong protection against the devil!

4. The Rosary will cause virtue and good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire for eternal things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.​

For children: Praying the Rosary will help you grow in holiness, because it helps you grow in the virtues like love, honesty, wisdom, faithfulness, and courage. Which virtues do you need to grow in? Pray the Rosary! Our Lady will help you!

5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary shall not perish.​

When you can address the subject of our debate and stop changing it every time you’re backed into a corner – perhaps THEN, I’ll give you a lesson about the Rosary . . .
 

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WOW – you’re even more clueless than I thought . . .

Ok, im glad you are back, as i have one more post for you to ignore, as you did the last 2.
But just think, @BreadOfLife .........the members are not ignoring what im posting to you, so, as i use you as the prime example of a deluded defender of the MaryCult.......they learn what not to believe.
So, you are a useful tool, being used to uncover the False Religious man made Theater, that is "the Cult of Mary".
I also appreciate you doing this for the fourm, in your next 200 posts.
(I know i can count on you).

Now, here are 5 more False Teachings as provided by the MaryCult, and if you feel you can try to defend them, i do hope you will try as that makes the situation so much more enlighenting for the Christians who want to see "heresy" and its defenders, spotlighted on this forum, again.

Thanks for all your help, and See you there... soon....... @BreadOfLife
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11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by the recitation of the Rosary.Mary is our advocate and she mediates between her Son and us. She will ask Jesus for all that we ask, provided it’s good for our salvation and doesn’t violate God’s perfect will for us.

For children: When you pray the Rosary, you can ask Mary for what you need, and she will talk to her son about it. Jesus loves his mom so much that he pays attention to what she says!

12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.​

This means that when you tell others about the Rosary, including teaching your children to pray it, Mary will take special care to ensure you have what you need both spiritually and physically.

For children: When you share what you know about the Rosary with other people, Mary loves it! When you do this, she promises that you will have what you need to become more holy. She even promises that you will have enough food, clothing, and a home to live in.

13. I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire celestial court during their life and at the hour of death.​

Mary promises that if we encourage others to pray the Rosary, the angels in heaven will be interceding for us not only during our lives, but when we die.

For children: When you encourage other people to pray the Rosary, Mary promises that all the angels in heaven will be praying for you!

14. All who recite the Rosary are my sons and daughters, the brothers and sisters of Jesus Christ.​

When we recite the Rosary, we are the children of Mary, and Jesus is our BROTHER.... We are part of the Holy Family.

Children: When you pray the Rosary, Mary treats you like her very own child and Jesus becomes like your big brother. You are part of her own family!

15. Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.​

 

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Now, the "cult of Mary".......does not exist, if you take Mary out of it., as its built on "Mary Religion" that is actually just the evolution of the (Pre-Christ) Pagan religion that is known as "Goddess Diana".. As this "Goddass" was a "perpetual virgin", and the "Queen of Heaven".
So, the "cult of mary" is simply this Pagan religion, infused with some of the Teachings of Jesus, and some of the teachings of the New Testament, that are taught incorrectly, such as "water washes your sin away" or... "If anyone says that a person is justified by Faith" and now works are requires then that person is "Anathema". (cursed of God).
The realiity is, the "curse" is upon this MARY Cult, as Paul has defined them as : Galatians 1:8
I see that you’re just regurgitating your usual manure instead of actually sticking to the subject. You strike me as a sad, angry little guy. Cheer up, son.

Suggestion:
Do your homework before posting idiotic attacks against Church. There are too many educated Catholics here to expose your nonsense . . .
 

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Scripture cannot contradict itself. Scripture is the inspired Word of God. God does not contradict Himself.
It' doesn't contradict itself.
People like YOU who cherry-pick the Scriptures pit one verse against another. You need to learn how to read them ALL ion their proper
CONTEXT.
I'll just explain just Hebrews.
Hebrews 10:26-28 - For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has rejected Moses’ law dies without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

The writer of Hebrews puts a big IF in front of this statement and then ties it to Moses Law. So obviously, a knock of the law of Moses. The writer does not mention loss of salvation; the Apostle Paul would have and didn't. Therefore, this is the classic Knowledge does not equal salvation.
Hebrews 10:39 -But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
The writer finishes the chapter with a plain statement, those of the devil and those that are saved.
WRONG.
Verse 39
says, for those who fall back into sin, “… there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment
This is WARNING.

Verse 39 is simply pep talk to assure the reader.
It is NOT saying that they are “unable” to fall way.
 

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Supposed "bible believing" Christians trying to pitch sola scriptura as biblical is the real gaslighting.

So it's no problem to throw the Bible in the trash?

What do you do, sit cross legged smoking ganga humming and whatever pops in to your head you think it God speaking to you? clueless-scratching.gif

Just like in the Garden of Eden, satan is convincing people that God's Word should be ignored.
 

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I see that you’re just regurgitating your usual manure

Wrong again.
You've mastered it.

IN fact, ive never posted the " 15 false teaching of Mary" on any forum, before yesterday. 5-19-25.
And you have now dodged my posts that recited them, 4x, and i dont blame you, as if you defend them, you are not being honest, as you can't defend what isn't true and it be honest, tho you would be the obvious one on this forum. to try it.
You or, "maryMOG".

So, go ahead and do what you need to do, to try to salvage your reputation regarding being a MaryCult, cheerleader, and i'll respond to it, as you and your cult teaching are "fish in a barrel"...... regarding Paul's doctrine, or the NT in general, and this is because no Apostle teaches "MaryCult" theology.......and No NT ever will, unless its completely created by deceived "Catholic Scholars".

The NT omits Mary veneration as a "denomination", because it was never found.....until a handful of "Goddess Diana" Gnostics, decided to create this MaryCult Religion.
So, If you want to find out that this is truth.......then go directly to the "Father of Gnosticism" who is "Valentinus" and find out how this Gnostic. almost became a Pope.
Its because He was part of that Religious situation, that now defines itself as the "Catholic Church"
Or you can sit there stewing in your eternal arrogance and post something else that is highlighted by its MaryCult devotion. @BreadOfLife
 

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Let's look a Matthew
Matthew 5:13, Here Jesus is explaining salt is good. But no good salt is thrown out. Jesus was talking to His disciples, who he knew already would desert Him later. The good Salt (salvation) stays with Jesus, the bad is thrown out.

Mark 9:50 - Salt is good, but if the salt loses its flavor, how will you season it? Have salt (salvation) in yourselves, and have peace with one another.”

Mark states the same thing, Salt is good with Jesus, Have salt (salvation) in yourselves and be at peace with one another.
Once again - you are ignoring the CONTEXT because it proved you wrong.

Jesus said:
You are the salt of the earth. But if salt loses its taste, with what can it be seasoned? It is no longer good for anything but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

He talks about the “salt” Christians) – then warns that if that salt loses its tase – it will be thrown out. He doesn’t say that there is “good salt” and “bad salt”.

He says that WE are the salt of the earth – and that if WE lose our flavor – we will be
thrown out.
 

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So it's no problem to throw the Bible in the trash?

What do you do, sit cross legged smoking ganga humming and whatever pops in to your head you think it God speaking to you? View attachment 63084

Just like in the Garden of Eden, satan is convincing people that God's Word should be ignored.
Can you show me where the BIBLE teaches that the Billie ALONE is our Authority. I didn't think so . . .

MY Bible gives us another Authority along with Scripture - Christ's Church (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12015, John 20:21-23).

I'll wait righ here for your answer . . .
 

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It' doesn't contradict itself.
People like YOU who cherry-pick the Scriptures pit one verse against another. You need to learn how to read them ALL ion their proper
CONTEXT.

WRONG.
Verse 39
says, for those who fall back into sin, “… there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment
This is WARNING.


Verse 39 is simply pep talk to assure the reader.
It is NOT saying that they are “unable” to fall way.
Don't say "people like you". That is disrespectful. People call names when they don't have a argument.
 

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Can you show me where the BIBLE teaches that the Billie ALONE is our Authority. I didn't think so . . .

MY Bible gives us another Authority along with Scripture - Christ's Church (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12015, John 20:21-23).

I'll wait righ here for your answer . . .
What authority is higher than the Word of God, that you can have in your hand.
 

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Once again - you are ignoring the CONTEXT because it proved you wrong.

Jesus said:
You are the salt of the earth. But if salt loses its taste, with what can it be seasoned? It is no longer good for anything but to be thrown out and trampled underfoot.

He talks about the “salt” Christians) – then warns that if that salt loses its tase – it will be thrown out. He doesn’t say that there is “good salt” and “bad salt”.

He says that WE are the salt of the earth – and that if WE lose our flavor – we will be
thrown out.
Once again you don't know the Greek thank you. Jesus does not contradict himself. Sheep and Goats, Salt vs unsalt. If Jesus says you can lose your salvation, then another verse says you can't, thats what cults do. Contradict themselves and there is no truth in them.
 

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Don't say "people like you". That is disrespectful.

So your pride causes you to get highly upset when people disrespect you, right?

I've been called every name in the book and ain't never been insulted yet! laughing.gif

That's because I've learned to cast my cares upon the Lord and not listen to the name calling.

You should give that a whirl sometime!
 

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So your pride causes you to get highly upset when people disrespect you, right?

I've been called every name in the book and ain't never been insulted yet! View attachment 63098

That's because I've learned to cast my cares upon the Lord and not listen to the name calling.

You should give that a whirl sometime!
I will call people out with righteousness. You should have no pride. Pride goes before the fall. I've been a minister of God on the street for years and never had an argument. I've been a missionary and never had an argument. It is all in the delivery of the Gospel. Don't threaten people and they will respond.
 

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Don't threaten people and they will respond.

Yeah, never tell them they are on their way to hell unless they get born again and live for the Lord enduring In Christ to the end of their lives.

That is the Truth in God's Word and it is threatening to those that do not hunger after righteousness

So you never disclose the whole truth to those you are trying to witness to?
 

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Yeah, never tell them they are on their way to hell unless they get born again and live for the Lord enduring In Christ to the end of their lives.

That is the Truth in God's Word and it is threatening to those that do not hunger after righteousness

So you never disclose the whole truth to those you are trying to witness to?
Never use scare tactics to present the gospel. Wait until God opens their heart. You will get a false confession of faith if you scare them.
 
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