THE GOSPELS ARE NOT NEW TESTAMENT
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I asked for the post number where I said this......I see you missed it or cant/wont answer
I dont even know what this means
David in NJ
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Hello @complete
The New Covenant was the Fulfillment of that which the Old Covenant pointed to = which is CHRIST
We do not continue under the OC since God did away with it because of the NEW
God does not put NEW Wine into old covenant wineskins = Luke 5:36-39 and Hebrews 8:1-6
And no one puts new wine into old wineskins; or else the new wine will burst the wineskins and be spilled, and the wineskins will be ruined. But new wine must be put into new wineskins, and both are preserved.
But now CHRIST has obtained a more excellent ministry,
inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a Better Covenant,
which was established on better promises.
The Gospel of Christ
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Any so-called “Christian” who says to another believer,
“Well I’ve always said that… but you’re not the true Israel of God,”
isn’t just confused —
they’re so lost I honestly don’t know what religion they’re following anymore.
Because if you deny that a born-again follower of Jesus is part of the true Israel,
you’ve denied the Gospel itself.
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” — Galatians 3:29
“They are not all Israel who are of Israel… but the children of the promise are counted as the seed.” — Romans 9:6–8
“He is a Jew who is one inwardly…” — Romans 2:29
If that’s not enough for you, maybe the veil’s still over your eyes.
David in NJ
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There is a 'veil' of religion over the minds of many christians, whereby they cannot SEE.
The new testament was fulfilled
The new covenant is not the new testament
The new covenant can be found in Jeremiah 31:27-34 Ezekiel 36:22-38
David in NJ
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Multiple words for the SAME meaning
New Covenant = New Testament
Jesus = Savior
Christ = Messiah = Anointed One
Temple = House of God
Spirit of Truth = Holy Spirit
Redemption = Salvation
Atonement = Propitiation
Faith = Believe
faithlessness = unbelief
charity = love
sin = iniquity
redeemed = purchased
The Gospel of Christ
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If you read the passages I gave you in Jeremiah and Ezekiel you will see that they say different things than passages that speak of the new testament (maybe only in the KJV)
Just because a word is the same it does not always mean the same
Here is post 111.........................I have always said that but you are not the true Israel of God
This doesnt say I said ............4. “Jesus’ words don’t apply until after He died…”
The Gospel of Christ
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- Christians = True Israel.
- Faith in Christ = Circumcision of the heart. (Romans 2:29)
- Bloodline = Irrelevant. (John 1:13, Philippians 3:3)
- Abraham’s seed = Those in Christ. (Galatians 3:29)
- Without Christ = Not Abraham’s children. (John 8:39–44)
- The Gospel = One body. No Jew, no Greek. (Galatians 3:28)
- Two peoples theology = False gospel. (Ephesians 2:14–16)
- New Covenant = In force now. (Luke 22:20, Hebrews 8:13)
- Old Covenant = Obsolete. (Hebrews 8:13)
- Jesus = Fulfillment of the Law. (Matthew 5:17)
- Temple = Destroyed. Sacrifices = Ceased. Priesthood = Changed. (Hebrews 7:12)
- Mosaic law = Shadow. Christ = Substance. (Colossians 2:17)
- Unbelieving Jews = Broken off. (Romans 11:17–20)
- Believers in Christ = Grafted in. (Romans 11:17)
- Zion = Heavenly, not geographic. (Hebrews 12:22)
- Church = Temple of God. (1 Corinthians 3:16)
- Synagogue = Rejects Messiah. (John 15:23)
- Messianic faith = Continuation, not replacement. (Romans 11:23)
- The Cross = End of ethnic privilege. (Ephesians 2:11–16)
- Modern Israel = Secular state, not covenant body.
- Ashkenazi = Turkic-Khazar converts.
- Khazars ≠ Abrahamic lineage.
- Sephardic = Mixed Mediterranean heritage.
- Neither = Biblical tribes of Israel.
- No genealogies = No covenant. (Titus 3:9)
- Tribe lists = Destroyed in 70 A.D.
- Bloodline Judaism = Dead religion.
- Rabbinic Judaism = Built on Talmud, not Torah.
- Talmud = Anti-Christ in doctrine.
- Pharisees = Founders of Rabbinic tradition. (Matthew 23:27)
- Christianity = Judaism fulfilled.
- Jesus = True Israelite. (Matthew 2:15)
- Christ = The Seed. (Galatians 3:16)
- The Seed = Singular. Not plural.
- In Him = Heirs. Outside Him = Lost.
- Scofield = Heretic. Darby = Inventor of fantasy.
- Dispensationalism = Theological apartheid.
- Rapture theory = 19th-century invention.
- Israel-first doctrine = Not taught by Paul, Peter, or Jesus.
- Real Jews = Born again believers in Christ.
- Zionism = Political, not spiritual.
- Modern Israel = Ally of Mammon, not Messiah.
- Prophetic clock = Jesus, not Tel Aviv.
- Star of David = Not biblical.
- Torah without Jesus = Veiled heart. (2 Corinthians 3:14–16)
- Jews need Jesus = Just like everyone else.
- Romans 11:26 = Conditional, not automatic.
- Revelation 2:9 = Warning, not compliment.
- Galatians 6:16 = “Israel of God” = The Church.
- If you’re in Christ… you are Israel.
David in NJ
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Only ONE New Covenant
Jeremiah 31:31
Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
Hebrews 8:7-13
For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second.
Because finding fault with them, He says/Jeremiah 31:31 : “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they did not continue in My covenant, and I disregarded them, says the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws in their mind and write them on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. None of them shall teach his neighbor, and none his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.”
In that He says, “A new covenant,” He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
'But those things, which God before had shewed
by the mouth of all His prophets,
that Christ should suffer, He hath so fulfilled.
.. Repent ye therefore, and be converted,
.... that your sins may be blotted out,
...... when the times of refreshing shall come
........ from the presence of the Lord;
And He shall send Jesus Christ,
.. which before was preached unto you:
.... Whom the heaven must receive
...... until the times of restitution of all things,
........ which God hath spoken
.......... by the mouth of all His holy prophets
............ since the world began.'
(Act 3:18-21)
Hello @David in NJ,
The blood of the Lord Jesus Christ, that was shed upon the cross, was the blood of the New Covenant. The Lord Jesus, when referring to the wine of the Passover feast, said that it represented His blood of the new testament (i.e., covenant), 'which is shed for many for the remission of sins' (Mat. 26:28). Christ Himself is NOT the New Covenant: but the Mediator of it as Moses was to the old covenant; The Lord Jesus Christ is the 'surety' of the new covenant (Heb. 7:22).
If Israel had come to repentance at the preaching of Peter in Acts 3:18-21 (above), then Jesus would have returned and the New Covenant would have come into force, for it would have been made with Israel, as the old covenant had been (Heb. 8:10): 'For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to Me A People:'
But Israel did not come to repentance, so the new covenant is now in abeyance. Awaiting that day, which shall surely come, when Israel shall come to repentance. 'For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.' (Heb 8:12)
The Church which is the body of Christ is joined to Christ, it's Head, and has the promise of life in Him. That is the only promise, or covenant, that has been made with it's membership (2 Tim. 1:1). 'Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, according to the promise of life which is in Christ Jesus,'
Praise God!
In Christ Jesus
Chris
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David in NJ
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Well i AGREE with 93% and THANK YOU
This statement needs ETERNAL LIGHT shined on it = "Christ Himself is NOT the New Covenant"
God Says that Christ Himself is the New Covenant = Isiah 42:6 and 49:8
Behold! My Servant whom I uphold,
My Elect One in whom My soul delights!
I have put My Spirit upon Him;
He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles.
2He will not cry out, nor raise His voice,
Nor cause His voice to be heard in the street.
3A bruised reed He will not break,
And smoking flax He will not quench;
He will bring forth justice for truth.
4He will not fail nor be discouraged,
Till He has established justice in the earth;
And the coastlands shall wait for His law.”
5Thus says God the Lord,
Who created the heavens and stretched them out,
Who spread forth the earth and that which comes from it,
Who gives breath to the people on it,
And spirit to those who walk on it:
6“I, the Lord, have called You in righteousness,
And will hold Your hand;
I will keep You and give You as a covenant to the people,
As a light to the Gentiles,
This is what the LORD says: “At a favorable time I answered You, And on a day of salvation I helped You;
And I will watch over You and make You a covenant of the people,
To restore the land, to give as inheritances the deserted hereditary lands;
YES, the LORD Himself became the New Covenant for us = BODY & BLOOD
"Take eat, this is My Body which is broken for you"
"This is the Cup of My Blood, the New Covenant, which is shed for you"
SHALOM to @complete
[Eze 36:24 KJV] 24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
This passage says when the new covenant will be in effect......Israel is not in the promised land yet
'I the LORD have called thee in righteousness,
and will hold thine hand,
and will keep thee,
and give thee for a covenant of the people,
for a light of the Gentiles;'
To open the blind eyes,
to bring out the prisoners from the prison,
and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house.'
(Isa 42:6-7)
@David in NJ,
Thank you my friend, I accept your correction. Thank you for giving the references, and quoting the verses ( Isaiah 42:6 & 49:8 ).
'Thus saith the LORD,
In an acceptable time have I heard thee,
and in a day of salvation have I helped thee:
and I will preserve thee,
and give thee for a covenant of the people,
to establish the earth,
to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;'
(Isa 49:8)
* Lovely verses.
In Christ Jesus
Chris
David in NJ
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Thank You for your kindness -
We are together in Christ for mutual encouragement and sharing of Truth.
Shalom and Blessings from Above be upon the Body of Christ Today
David in NJ
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