We Follow the King. You Follow a Corpse.

[Ronald Nolette]

The scriptural truth:
Rom.3
[22] Even the righteousness of God which is by [the] faith of Jesus Christ
unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Rom.10
[12] For [the Gift of Salvation] there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

2Cor.5
[17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
Gal.6
[15] For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth anything, nor uncircumcision, but [rather] a new creature.

And I agree with this 100%! And your point is supposed to be?

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

YOu truly are a sad sack! Twisitng my words and the Word of God will play you ill Ta ta for now!

Just say you can't defend your position with Scripture.. Be honest.. Its easier..

 

[Earburner]

And I agree with this 100%! And your point is supposed to be?

The absolute truth: KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10.
Q. When is "when" ?
A. It is a simultaneous event in one 24 hour day. See also Luke 17:28-30

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The absolute truth: KJV 2 Thes. 1:7-10.
Q. When is "when" ?
A. It is a simultaneous event in one 24 hour day. See also Luke 17:28-30

That judgment is coming for those who reject Christ? I agree 100%

 

[marks]

So let me get this straight:
You just said “True Jews are saved Jews and part of the body of Christ.”
And yet you still claim the Church is not Israel?

That’s theological double-speak.

No it's not. If that is actually your understanding, you demonstrate a poor grasp of language by your statements above.

Some Jews may become part of the church, just as some gentiles may. That does not turn an ethic nation into a spiritual group composed of those who are not a part of that ethnic nation.

Much love!

 

[marks]

And you mistranslate Romans 9 badly-Paul was speaking of physical Israel as the context of 9-11 speaks of in reference to Israel. He contrast Jew and Gentile.

This is a great point concerning those who blend Jews and gentiles. Paul most assuredly did not.

Much love!

 

[Earburner]

That judgment is coming for those who reject Christ? I agree 100%

Yes. In that literal 24 hour day, it will be a sudden simultaneous event of redemption of all the "saved" and utter destruction of all the "unsaved".

 

[Earburner]

This is a great point concerning those who blend Jews and gentiles. Paul most assuredly did not.

Much love!

Of course Paul did not blend Jews with Gentiles!! He knew that all Jews and Gentiles, who are born again by the HS of God, have become NEW creatures. Therefore, in Christ Jesus, neither are a Jew or a Gentile any longer, but rather have become a NEW creature, aka saints.

 

[Sister-n-Christ]

The devil considers him to be a saint in the devil's satanic kingdom

He and Melinda will be surprised when his billion$ won't buy his way out.

How the Gates Foundation Harms Human Development

Having children is a basic human right. But where massive numbers of Africans have no clean drinking water, the Gates Foundation still pushes contraception.

www.hli.org

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yes. In that literal 24 hour day, it will be a sudden simultaneous event of redemption of all the "saved" and utter destruction of all the "unsaved".

The saved are already redeemed. Unless you are speaking of the third and final aspect of our redemption, which is the redemption from the presence of sin.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You’re confusing covenantal identity with biological ancestry — and pretending that faith in Christ doesn’t change the equation.

Well then you accuse God of that error not me! This is what God HImself wote:

Jeremiah 31:31-32

King James Version

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31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:

This is a covenant made with all Jews! Just like the Old Covenant was made with all 12 tribes as well.

That is how the plain, normal, usual, common translation of the words say.

 

[Jay Ross]

Perhaps we should consider how Israelite people understand verse 31. Their understanding of the Hebrew text goes something like this: -

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make like new again the covenant I had with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:​

The next verse tells us which covenant that God will renew with the nation of Israel.

Shalom

 

[Earburner]

The saved are already redeemed. Unless you are speaking of the third and final aspect of our redemption, which is the redemption from the presence of sin.

The full process of our salvation is three fold:

#1 to repent towards God by having faith in the Lord Jesus.
#2 to be born again by the Holy Spirit of God.
#3 to be transformed into the likeness of Christ's bodily resurrection, upon His Glorious return from heaven.
Rom. 6:5

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Perhaps we should consider how Israelite people understand verse 31. Their understanding of the Hebrew text goes something like this: -

31 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make like new again the covenant I had with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:​

The next verse tells us which covenant that God will renew with the nation of Israel.

Shalom

Yes and that Israel is ? They who are Saved in Christ Jesus in fact ! for they are with him !
No one who was lost was worthy of Israel in fact !
2 people in the Bible were Israel, one by a messenger = an Angel and the other was called such by Jesus himself.
Jacob was not born Israel ! he was Jacob and became Jacob Israel in fact ! for good reason !
Just as Nathaniel and Jesus said what he would see ! see that issue, it was given for very good reason.

The Tribe of Israel is one thing, but it does not make one an Israel ! Worthy !

Their are Tribes of Israel as well and out of Jacob regarding his Sons, only 2 of them are Jacobs true Sons.
See how one of them became so great ! and his baby brother was seen as great as well !
The others were not his true Line regarding God, as he never wanted them women, he was tricked and forced into such with the first and the other two women were not married to Jacob.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The full process of our salvation is three fold:

#1 to repent towards God by having faith in the Lord Jesus.
#2 to be born again by the Holy Spirit of God.
#3 to be transformed into the likeness of Christ's bodily resurrection, upon His Glorious return from heaven.
Rom. 6:5

You are confusing salvation with sanctification or blending both together.

Salvation is a once for all act at the moment we are saved. We are born of the Spirit at that exat moment.

YOur point three is part of the process of sanctification for those who have laready experienced full and complete slavation.

 

[Earburner]

You are confusing salvation with sanctification or blending both together.

Salvation is a once for all act at the moment we are saved. We are born of the Spirit at that exat moment.

YOur point three is part of the process of sanctification for those who have laready experienced full and complete slavation.

I didn't know that you were already made immortal??
When did Jesus appear in all His immortal Glory, that you should be made after his likeness??

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I didn't know that you were already made immortal??
When did Jesus appear in all His immortal Glory, that you should be made after his likeness??

All people are immortal! Just not our bodies yet. The save have immortal souls and spirits, the unsaved just have an immortal soul. All of us will have immortal bodies byu the end of the Great white throne judgment, some before (the saved) and the rest at the judgment (the lost).

 

[Earburner]

All people are immortal! Just not our bodies yet. The save have immortal souls and spirits, the unsaved just have an immortal soul. All of us will have immortal bodies byu the end of the Great white throne judgment, some before (the saved) and the rest at the judgment (the lost).

At the moment, ALL born again Christians have the Gift of Eternal Life. Whether they are alive or asleep in Jesus, all are still waiting to be made immortal flesh upon the Day of Jesus' Glorious return in flaming fire.
There is no White Throne judgment for born again Christians. John 3:18.

After their natural death, ALL of the unsaved have no eternal existence of any kind and are completely lost. Therefore John 3:18 to them is the White Throne judgment.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

At the moment, ALL born again Christians have the Gift of Eternal Life. Whether they are alive or asleep in Jesus, all are still waiting to be made immortal flesh upon the Day of Jesus' Glorious return in flaming fire.
There is no White Throne judgment for born again Christians. John 3:18.

After their natural death, ALL of the unsaved have no eternal existence of any kind and are completely lost. Therefore John 3:18 to them is the White Throne judgment.

Sorry but the lost are not exterminated but spend eternity in the lake of fire as is written.

 

[Earburner]

Sorry but the lost are not exterminated but spend eternity in the lake of fire as is written.

As for Rev. 20, there is so much to unpack in it through the amil view, that all premil believers wouldn't be able to keep up with it, nor can they scripturally oppose it.

KJV (Textus Receptus Greek) implies that only satan and the fallen angels spend eternity alive in the LoF.

The kingdoms of men, being "the beast and the false prophet" are already DEAD in the LoF, which is simply "the elements" of this earth melted down into molten lava.
Rev. 20[10] And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone [molten lava], where the beast and the false prophet ARE, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

By the way, if you didn't notice, in the world of "forever and ever", there is no such thing as "day and night", whether that is with all the forever DEAD people or that of the fallen angels.