That’s right — you’ve been brainwashed into defending the wrong Israel.

[ScottA]

You want me to Spare your Mein Kampf = anti-semetic damanged mentality, the just reward you are achieving... for doing the devil's work, on a Christian Forum.
Really?
Why would you believe that you deserve this mercy @The Gospel of Christ ??
So, you are genuinely "crippled to high for crutches" if you believe that is coming your way.

Listen up...
I told you that my Home and my Family are "ISRAEL" and "Israeli" and you just kept on coming with your vile hateful lying posts.
And here you are again........
So, there it is....thats on YOU.

So, maybe one these Mods will be deceived by you, but, maybe they wont., and will recognize your antisemetic Threads, are pretending to be "Bible".

I told you the last time that you should show us your Swastika Tattoo.
Stand up and be counted for Hamas and Islam, and Adolf.
See you there...next time.
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Your reaction is understandable, and certainly many authentic Jews are in the mix. However, that is not who this thread is pointed at. On the contrary, this is a thread addressing deep state activity within the Jewish community we all among the Christian community revere and love.

Actually, the same sort of thing has happened to the Christian church--has it not? Antichrist false teachers and preachers, even phony scam artists--even politicians. And many threads here are intended to shine a light in on their evil activities and presence among us like tares among the wheat.

Unfortunately, we are just entering into a period of it all becoming public knowledge. Many surely will be offended. A good example (in another similar topic)--is Canada. Are many not offended at the idea of their becoming a 51st state of the US? Of course--and to be expected. But that too, is only an early glimpse of a much bigger issue, only being introduced now to lessen the greater shock and awe on the horizon.

So, be offended, but don't be fooled into believing there is not evil in high places--even the Highest places--that will not be exposed. It's biblical, and it's coming.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Yes, but even as such, what seems monumental by our worldly standards, is only a small enactment of what is written--as through a glass darkly. Even the coming of Christ and Him crucified was a mere local or regional event, hardly living up to the greater implications and reality. So, yes, that means a couple things: 1) To the deer in the headlights Christian, it is all too farfetched and therefore unbelievable; and 2) These events, now international in scope, are destine to go over the heads of many, although they are the grand finale--while many are not aware--like the days of Noah...not quite the greatly anticipated and feared tribulation.

Amen — exactly. You nailed it.

What the world calls monumental, God often calls a shadow. And what most Christians are still “waiting for” has already wrapped its claws around the nations.

“As through a glass darkly…” — that’s precisely how this Beast system thrives: by convincing the Church it hasn’t arrived yet.

They expect the tribulation to come with Hollywood flames and CNN countdowns. Meanwhile, the synagogue of Satan is already here — blaspheming Christ, persecuting the saints, and driving the global machine from behind the curtain.

The seals are opening.
The deception is active.
And the great falling away is well underway.

But the lukewarm church, doped up on Scofield and Zionist prophecy charts, can’t see it.
They’re still waiting for the Antichrist to rise — while worshiping at the feet of his architects.

“And the whole world marveled as they followed the beast…” — Revelation 13:3

What do they think that looks like?
Because it doesn’t start with horns and hellfire — it starts with control, false worship, and spiritual adultery masquerading as patriotism and prophecy.

We’re not waiting for the end.
We’re living in the shadow of it.
And just like Noah’s day — they’ll realize it after the flood has already begun.

 

[MatthewG]

Your reaction is understandable, and certainly many authentic Jews are in the mix. However, that is not who this thread is pointed at. On the contrary, this is a thread addressing deep state activity within the Jewish community we all among the Christian community revere and love.

Actually, the same sort of thing has happened to the Christian church--has it not? Antichrist false teachers and preachers, even phony scam artists--even politicians. And many threads here are intended to shine a light in on their evil activities and presence among us like tares among the wheat.

Unfortunately, we are just entering into a period of it all becoming public knowledge. Many surely will be offended. A good example (in another similar topic)--is Canada. Are many not offended at the idea of their becoming a 51st state of the US? Of course--and to be expected. But that too, is only an early glimpse of a much bigger issue, only being introduced now to lessen the greater shock and awe on the horizon.

So, be offended, but don't be fooled into believing there is not evil in high places--even the Highest places--that will not be exposed. It's biblical, and it's coming.

Yep there is evil in high places, and the issues of dealing with our own selves. Let the Light shine so one can perceive it.

 

[ScottA]

We’re not waiting for the end.
We’re living in the shadow of it.
And just like Noah’s day — they’ll realize it after the flood has already begun.

If the Church was awake and aware, it would realize that same Noah's flood scenario came upon Israel: While many were unaware--playing temple and synagogue--the kingdom of God came upon them like a flood. Which the Church should have learned from and started examining the possibility of their repeating Israel's folly. Because--they already have.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

The Issue is that people who are not Saved truly born again represent Christ Jesus and are not of this world !
Of this world that is, called by Jesus is, full of people who are under delusions and deceptions ! that's the Key issue !

So then comes the problems we face because of the deceptions and delusions that are not Saved in fact, for They are Lost ! On the wrong path in fact !

Now, as to the so called Jews ? well They are not Found in fact but are Lost ! so yes they are of this world ! now when looking into Lost people they are under delusions and deceptions that is clear ! so we see so called Jews ? as well, all different types of Jews in fact !

We know of the first Saved Jews who became Christianity ! They were the first Christians in fact ! they were Blessed !

Now regarding all who are not Blessed ? Ok that's it in a nut shell, all who are so called religious Jews or just so called Jews ?

Ok a Religious Jew ? many types of such ! but If they follow the OT all is good, as they are worthy of the OT ! so they have hope if they suport follow Moses !

If they do not follow Moses they are not worthy of the OT !

If they totaly respect Holy Moses they have a hope and can come to Christ Jesus in fact !

If they follow the Talmud they are a whore ! full on mans works !

Now I have understood that some Jews are with the Nazis in fact ! and we can see this within Ukraine openly ! and once again a type of Jew is involved with Nazis in fact ! once again in fact !

As in Germany we see how Hitler loved the Zionist Jews in fact and that is clearly a Fact !

Hitler was the number one man for wanting to creat the Jewish State in fact ! and the State would never got off the ground if it was not for old mate Hitler in fact !

Now who was it that came into Hitlers Office freely all the years Hitler was in Power, even during WW2 ! Zionist did !

Hitler in fact let Zionist news papers print in Nazi Germany ! but Hitler did not allow all other Jews to print news Papers in fact !

Only the Zionist propaganda was let loose on the other Jews in Germany ! why was that ? well the Zionist wanted to Dominate over all Jews in fact and Hitler was all for that in fact !

The big problem was that the majority of German Jews, knew the Zionist were not Biblical Zion at all in fact, so about 90% of German Jews payed no regard this so called Zionist whore ! The German Jews were not stupid ! nor ignorant of the OT in fact !

So out came the solution ? They had to be Killed ? why ? well they were a great outright threat to the so called Zionist in fact ! because only real Jews would expose them for the abomination to God that they were !

So out came the Power of the Talmud and offered up a Burnt Offering to their gods ! of a Number that the Talmud Zionist made and their news papers had mentioned 3 years before such took place in fact !

Ok regarding the Jews ? the UK did not give a Rats regarding the Jews in fact, no Government nor the People had any real regards the Jews in fact !

All over the world no one looked up to the Jews in fact ! for being a loving People, but a cunning Dog Mob that would steal the eye out of a needel ! seriously that's what most knew to be carfull of such.

But in Australia it was not untill the 1990's that people started Idolising the so called Jews in fact ! It was Media driven and Government driven.
So I lived in the days of people looking down on me for being a Jew, if they understood my sirname was Jewish ! To being Idolised !
I had JW want to kiss my feet ! I said No ! I am a Christian. you do not Idolise People Period !

Then as years past I had sorts of so called Christians who served this Scofield nonsense.
They know I am Jewish but they hate Me. they Idolise the Jew ? but the fact is that they hate the Jews and only want to use the Jews for their own ends in fact !

This Mob are clearly of Satan in fact ! They are not Jews but brainwashed dupes who are of Satan, they idolise end of Times !
They preach a Religion wanting of Hellfire ! that's their ends !
But for them ? is they claim they will not enter the Hellfire, for they will be Raptured out !
But the fact is that they do not Serve Christ Jesus at all in fact, because they clearly do not do his will !
They have a so called Jesus ? but not the Christ Jesus in fact !

For they are working for the ends ? so that Jesus will come down. Because they truly have no faith is the First in fact !

So it has nothing to do with Jews at all in fact ! It's just the Lost and the Saved ! the Lost are Lost and on the wrong path in fact regardless !

The Lost can be played for the fools that they truly are in fact !

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Your reaction is understandable, and certainly many authentic Jews are in the mix. However, that is not who this thread is pointed at. On the contrary, this is a thread addressing deep state activity within the Jewish community we all among the Christian community revere and love.

Actually, the same sort of thing has happened to the Christian church--has it not? Antichrist false teachers and preachers, even phony scam artists--even politicians. And many threads here are intended to shine a light in on their evil activities and presence among us like tares among the wheat.

Unfortunately, we are just entering into a period of it all becoming public knowledge. Many surely will be offended. A good example (in another similar topic)--is Canada. Are many not offended at the idea of their becoming a 51st state of the US? Of course--and to be expected. But that too, is only an early glimpse of a much bigger issue, only being introduced now to lessen the greater shock and awe on the horizon.

So, be offended, but don't be fooled into believing there is not evil in high places--even the Highest places--that will not be exposed. It's biblical, and it's coming.

WW3 is coming ! That's why Trump made the remarks about Canada and such !

It's Look out time ! because it could be very much so on the cards in fact !
So Canada is under the control of very Evil Governments in fact that is selling it's People down the drain in fact ! If one can not see that that is the fact, one must be under delusions and deceptions in fact ! they are shafting Canada ! Just as the Socialist were shafting the USA !

Who could say that the Socialist are Not shafting the World ! They are Leading Nations astray from within in fact, Proping up everyone who has no Virtue in fact ! and playing people for outright fools !

And the MSM is an outright Whore as well ! they are supporting the worst of the worst gang members as well, crying for pack Rapist and outright drug dealers thugs and murderes in fact ! This has all been suported by the Left Governments around the world and unelected crap like the UN etc who force such people on to Nations in fact ! They are Satanist !

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

If the Church was awake and aware, it would realize that same Noah's flood scenario came upon Israel: While many were unaware--playing temple and synagogue--the kingdom of God came upon them like a flood. Which the Church should have learned from and started examining the possibility of their repeating Israel's folly. Because--they already have.

If the Church truly understood what was happening, they wouldn’t be waving the flag of the Star of Remphan and calling it holy. They would fall to their knees in repentance for enabling a Zionist counterfeit built on bloodlines, bankers, and blasphemy. They would rise as a spiritual army—armed with truth, not bullets—to expose the Khazarian lie, dismantle the Scofield delusion, and declare with fire: There is no covenant outside of Christ. The land belongs to the King of Kings, not to Christ-rejecting nationalists pretending to fulfill prophecy while mocking the very Messiah who fulfilled it.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

These Dispensationalist evangelicals are so thoroughly brainwashed, they don’t even realize that they, are Israel.

Not modern geography.
Not a secular government.
Not a group of Eastern European converts backed by U.N. paperwork and Rothschild money. (False Israel™)

The Body of Christ is Israel.
The true sons of Abraham are those who are in Christ — not those with a passport from Tel Aviv.

Scripture says it plainly:

“And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.”
— Galatians 3:29

“He is not a Jew, which is one outwardly… but he is a Jew, which is one inwardly… in the spirit.”
— Romans 2:28–29

“They which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.”
— Galatians 3:7

So no — Israel is not a modern political state founded in 1948 by atheists and international bankers.
And it’s certainly not a collection of Eastern European identity thieves whose bloodline traces back to 8th century Khazar converts, not to Abraham or "ethnic Biblical Israel".

The Church is the Israel of God — the remnant, the elect, the Bride.

If you’re in Christ… you are Israel.

If you reject Christ… you are cut off from the covenant — no matter what blood runs in your veins. Romans 9:6–8 (KJV), Romans 11:19–22 (KJV), Galatians 3:7 (KJV), Galatians 3:29 (KJV), Philippians 3:3 (KJV), Ephesians 2:12–13 (KJV), Galatians 6:15–16 (KJV)

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Imagine how lost someone has to be to call people who devoutly follow, and quote the Gospel
and who worship the KING OF THE JEWS a "Nazi" and "just like Adolf Hitler"...

It's literally warped insanity unhinged... Inverted reality so upside down its staggering.. Beyond the Twilight Zone.

 

[PS95]

I'm hard pressed to see how this type of rhetoric helps the people who have been taught that Romans 11 means that the Jews will come to Christ after gentile times end. Are you here to help change their minds?
Perhaps, it would be more helpful to lend your insights on it?-

Romans 11-
25For I do not want you, brothers and sisters, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written:
“THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.”
27“THIS IS [k]MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS.” 28In relation to the gospel they are enemies on your account, but in relation to God’s choice they are beloved on account of the fathers; 29for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. 32For God has shut up all in disobedience, so that He may show mercy to all.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

I'm hard pressed to see how this type of rhetoric helps the people who have been taught that Romans 11 means that the Jews will come to Christ after gentile times end. Are you here to help change their minds?
Perhaps, it would be more helpful to lend your insights on it?-

Romans 11-
25For I do not want you, brothers and sisters, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written:
“THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.”
27“THIS IS [k]MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS.” 28In relation to the gospel they are enemies on your account, but in relation to God’s choice they are beloved on account of the fathers; 29for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. 32For God has shut up all in disobedience, so that He may show mercy to all.

You’re asking if I want to help people who were taught Scofield’s version of Romans 11 — that “the Jews will come to Christ after Gentile times end.”

Yes, I want to help. But not by sugarcoating the error. I want to rescue people from a Zionist fantasy that’s delaying their obedience to the Gospel.

Let’s go through Romans 11 and clear this up — without Scofield goggles:

Romans 11:25 — “A partial hardening has happened to Israel…”

Correct. But Paul is explaining a mystery — not laying out a prophecy chart. The hardening was partial because not all Jews rejected Christ. Paul himself was a Jew. So were Peter, James, John, and thousands more. Acts 2–4 shows a Jewish remnant coming to Christ immediately — fulfilling the remnant theology of Isaiah (Rom 9:27).

“...until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in”

This doesn’t mean “then God will save the Jews en masse later.” No — it means God is building one body, and when the full number of Gentiles are grafted in, the covenant plan is complete. There’s no second chance prophecy here — just the timeline of mercy: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile, and then both as one.

Romans 11:26 — “And so all Israel will be saved”

Here’s the verse Scofield-Dispensationalists like to butcher.

Paul doesn’t say “and then all Israel will be saved” — he says “and so all Israel will be saved.” In Greek: houtōs — meaning “in this way,” or “thus.”

So what way?

By faith.
By grafting into Christ.
Not by ethnicity.
Not by some future event in Tel Aviv.

He’s saying: this is how Israel — true, spiritual Israel (Rom 9:6-8) — will be saved: by being grafted back into their own olive tree through faith in Christ, just like the Gentiles.

Romans 11:27 — “This is my covenant with them…”

Yes — the covenant is Christ. Not land. Not a temple. Not bloodline. When will their sins be taken away?
“Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.” — John 1:29
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20

That covenant already came. And it’s irrevocable — but only through Christ.

Romans 11:28–29 — “Enemies… yet beloved… for the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable”

Yes. The Jews as a people were chosen to bring forth the Messiah, the Scriptures, and the oracles of God (Rom 3:2). That gift and calling stands — because God used them to birth the New Covenant.

But don’t twist that to mean modern ethnic Jews are saved apart from Christ or will be saved later by nationality.

Paul said they are “enemies of the Gospel” — that’s not a compliment.


Romans 11:30–31 — “So they may now receive mercy”

Right — now. Not after a rapture chart. Now. The entire point of Paul’s analogy is urgency:

“Do not be arrogant… Do not be wise in your own eyes… God did not spare the natural branches…”
(Romans 11:20–21)

This is not about postponing Jewish salvation.
It’s about warning Gentile believers not to get cocky — because salvation has one door, and His name is Jesus.

Romans 11 isn’t teaching a future wave of national ethnic salvation.

It’s showing the mystery of how God saves a remnant from both Jew and Gentile into one body — the Church.
The olive tree is Christ.
The branches are believers.
The root is the promise.
And the grafting is by faith — not ethnicity.

So yes, I’m here to help. But not by propping up Zionist pipe dreams.

I’m here to declare what Paul did:
“They are not all Israel who are descended from Israel.” (Romans 9:6)
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” (Galatians 3:29)

 

[PS95]

You’re asking if I want to help people who were taught Scofield’s version of Romans 11 — that “the Jews will come to Christ after Gentile times end.”

Yes, I want to help. But not by sugarcoating the error. I want to rescue people from a Zionist fantasy that’s delaying their obedience to the Gospel.

Let’s go through Romans 11 and clear this up — without Scofield goggles:

Romans 11:25 — “A partial hardening has happened to Israel…”

Correct. But Paul is explaining a mystery — not laying out a prophecy chart. The hardening was partial because not all Jews rejected Christ. Paul himself was a Jew. So were Peter, James, John, and thousands more. Acts 2–4 shows a Jewish remnant coming to Christ immediately — fulfilling the remnant theology of Isaiah (Rom 9:27).

“...until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in”

This doesn’t mean “then God will save the Jews en masse later.” No — it means God is building one body, and when the full number of Gentiles are grafted in, the covenant plan is complete. There’s no second chance prophecy here — just the timeline of mercy: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile, and then both as one.

Romans 11:26 — “And so all Israel will be saved”

Here’s the verse Scofield-Dispensationalists like to butcher.

Paul doesn’t say “and then all Israel will be saved” — he says “and so all Israel will be saved.” In Greek: houtōs — meaning “in this way,” or “thus.”

So what way?

By faith.
By grafting into Christ.
Not by ethnicity.
Not by some future event in Tel Aviv.

He’s saying: this is how Israel — true, spiritual Israel (Rom 9:6-8) — will be saved: by being grafted back into their own olive tree through faith in Christ, just like the Gentiles.

Romans 11:27 — “This is my covenant with them…”

Yes — the covenant is Christ. Not land. Not a temple. Not bloodline. When will their sins be taken away?
“Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world.” — John 1:29
“This cup is the new covenant in My blood.” — Luke 22:20

That covenant already came. And it’s irrevocable — but only through Christ.

Romans 11:28–29 — “Enemies… yet beloved… for the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable”

Yes. The Jews as a people were chosen to bring forth the Messiah, the Scriptures, and the oracles of God (Rom 3:2). That gift and calling stands — because God used them to birth the New Covenant.

But don’t twist that to mean modern ethnic Jews are saved apart from Christ or will be saved later by nationality.

Paul said they are “enemies of the Gospel” — that’s not a compliment.


Romans 11:30–31 — “So they may now receive mercy”

Right — now. Not after a rapture chart. Now. The entire point of Paul’s analogy is urgency:

“Do not be arrogant… Do not be wise in your own eyes… God did not spare the natural branches…”
(Romans 11:20–21)

This is not about postponing Jewish salvation.
It’s about warning Gentile believers not to get cocky — because salvation has one door, and His name is Jesus.

Romans 11 isn’t teaching a future wave of national ethnic salvation.

It’s showing the mystery of how God saves a remnant from both Jew and Gentile into one body — the Church.
The olive tree is Christ.
The branches are believers.
The root is the promise.
And the grafting is by faith — not ethnicity.

So yes, I’m here to help. But not by propping up Zionist pipe dreams.

I’m here to declare what Paul did:
“They are not all Israel who are descended from Israel.” (Romans 9:6)
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed.” (Galatians 3:29)

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Thanks for taking the time to do that. I don't think it's sugar coating to explain the scriptures. hopefully, someone will be helped? In the meantime pray for them. If you can expound any further it may help even more!
I have never believed what they do so I can't really understand them.

 

[Taken]

Only those in Christ are Israel. Everyone else — Jew or Gentile — is outside the covenant.

Names, Titles, Descriptions, “in Context” introduced IN Scripture matter.

God…Creator “AND” Maker…
from the Beginning BEFORE ManKIND…
Point by point God Revealed His Creations…
AND
Revealed His MAKINGS and Divisions…amongst His CREATIONS.

It certainly IS “mind” boggling to the “Carnal Mind” of the “man-KIND” of Being …
WHEN…
“the MYSTERIES of God” are “broadly to ANY man revealed” in the “Knowledge OF the TEXT…”

BUT…
“the Understanding of the Knowledge” IS “Reserved unto The Creator”…
And IS to ONLY PARTICULAR men revealed” From, By, Through, The Order, Way, Means OF the Creator…

WHEN
The “Carnal Mind” begins … continues Reading, Navigating Through the Written, Recorded, Distributed TEXT…

These Worldly Names, These Worldly Titles, These Worldly Descriptions…
* HAVE “Express” “Worldly AND Spiritual”…
“Applications, Meanings, Understandings”.

IT IS…a continual “Divide”, “Difference”, “Disagreement”, “Argument”, “Debate” amongst manKIND, WHOSE INDIVIDUAL “Discernment”…
IS;
kind of, regarding only some things, polar opposites, wide gate VS narrow gate, newbie VS long-standing student, non-Converted VS Converted, God-Less, Godly only or Christ the Lord God Adherents, Race of Israel / Race of Gentiles, Gender men / women…etc. etc.

Point Being…
The Lord God Almighty “IS NOT” surprised by the Divisions…He “Established” the Divisions!

The Lord God Almighty “IS NOT” surprised by the “Tribulations” ( of men against men upon the Face of the Earth )…He “Established” a World / Habitat / for ManKIND ”Whereby” FREEWILL of manKIND …
TO: cheat, lie, steal, terrorize, threaten, murder, falsely accuse, hoard, war, undermine, accept, reject, stand WITH God, stand AGAINST God…
SHALL EXIST AMONGST ManKIND UPON the Face OF the Earth…
TO the Day, Mortal Man, IS: By the Power of God…”MADE EXTINCT.

Gods Warning…
A Change TO the Face of the Earth and Its Inhabitants… IS Coming….SHALL BE Manifested and Come into Fruition.
SHALL AFFECT every manKind of Being…
Who is “prepared… or Not.”

Gods Advice…
Prepare ”yourself”, According to Gods Order, Way…to BE “WITH or WITHOUT God eternally”…”AS “YOU” Freely Choose”.

Gods Directive…
Teach “your own offspring” … HOW TO:
BE “WITH or WITHOUT God eternally”…
that “they” are “informed”, “prepared” to Freely Choose.

Be Patient, Watch, Notice Visible Signs, Trust God IS Faithful that “the Divided”, SHALL BE “MADE Separated”, according TO:
Gods Order and Way.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[ScottA]

I'm hard pressed to see how this type of rhetoric helps the people who have been taught that Romans 11 means that the Jews will come to Christ after gentile times end. Are you here to help change their minds?
Perhaps, it would be more helpful to lend your insights on it?-

Romans 11-
25For I do not want you, brothers and sisters, to be uninformed of this mystery—so that you will not be wise in your own estimation—that a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26and so all Israel will be saved; just as it is written:
“THE DELIVERER WILL COME FROM ZION,
HE WILL REMOVE UNGODLINESS FROM JACOB.”
27“THIS IS [k]MY COVENANT WITH THEM,
WHEN I TAKE AWAY THEIR SINS.” 28In relation to the gospel they are enemies on your account, but in relation to God’s choice they are beloved on account of the fathers; 29for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable. 30For just as you once were disobedient to God, but now have been shown mercy because of their disobedience, 31so these also now have been disobedient, that because of the mercy shown to you they also may now be shown mercy. 32For God has shut up all in disobedience, so that He may show mercy to all.

Yes, Romans 11:25 is a sticky point--but in error.

"a partial hardening has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in" seems to indicate that Israel will not be made whole until the times of the gentiles are finished. But that is not the case. That would be a poor translation. To the contrary, the word for "fullness" is like saying "when the gentiles ship or blessing has come", while "has come in" is not a reference to the times being finished, but rather that the times (of the gentiles) "has come." Meaning, when Christ was "finished" with the house of Israel for which He first came, He would then come to "another fold" of the gentiles. Which was "finished" for Israel with His going to the cross, and thus also the commencement ("has come") to the gentiles. As it is written, "First to the Jew, and also to the Greek."

All of which reconciles with God's greater plan was/is to include all nations and peoples, with Israel as a light unto the gentiles--that Light being Christ, the End with regard to Israel, and the Beginning (firstfruits) regarding the gentiles.

 

[Taken]

Scofield’s version of Romans 11 — that “the Jews will come to Christ after Gentile times end.”

I want to rescue people from a Zionist fantasy

— without Scofield goggles:

Here’s the verse Scofield-Dispensationalists like to butcher.

Zionist pipe dreams.

Who is this person named Scofield, you routinely mention and accredit your words to?

Can you QUOTE him and give the source of such QUOTE?

Can you Identify WHOM you are calling “Dispensationalists” and
“WHAT” you are defining “dispensationalism” to mean?

Who / What persons are you calling Zionists?

What are “you” defining Zionist to mean?

Can you Identify a Zionist and Quote “their” “pipe Dream”?

???

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Names, Titles, Descriptions, “in Context” introduced IN Scripture matter.

God…Creator “AND” Maker…
from the Beginning BEFORE ManKIND…
Point by point God Revealed His Creations…
AND
Revealed His MAKINGS and Divisions…amongst His CREATIONS.

It certainly IS “mind” boggling to the “Carnal Mind” of the “man-KIND” of Being …
WHEN…
“the MYSTERIES of God” are “broadly to ANY man revealed” in the “Knowledge OF the TEXT…”

BUT…
“the Understanding of the Knowledge” IS “Reserved unto The Creator”…
And IS to ONLY PARTICULAR men revealed” From, By, Through, The Order, Way, Means OF the Creator…

WHEN
The “Carnal Mind” begins … continues Reading, Navigating Through the Written, Recorded, Distributed TEXT…

These Worldly Names, These Worldly Titles, These Worldly Descriptions…
* HAVE “Express” “Worldly AND Spiritual”…
“Applications, Meanings, Understandings”.

IT IS…a continual “Divide”, “Difference”, “Disagreement”, “Argument”, “Debate” amongst manKIND, WHOSE INDIVIDUAL “Discernment”…
IS;
kind of, regarding only some things, polar opposites, wide gate VS narrow gate, newbie VS long-standing student, non-Converted VS Converted, God-Less, Godly only or Christ the Lord God Adherents, Race of Israel / Race of Gentiles, Gender men / women…etc. etc.

Point Being…
The Lord God Almighty “IS NOT” surprised by the Divisions…He “Established” the Divisions!

The Lord God Almighty “IS NOT” surprised by the “Tribulations” ( of men against men upon the Face of the Earth )…He “Established” a World / Habitat / for ManKIND ”Whereby” FREEWILL of manKIND …
TO: cheat, lie, steal, terrorize, threaten, murder, falsely accuse, hoard, war, undermine, accept, reject, stand WITH God, stand AGAINST God…
SHALL EXIST AMONGST ManKIND UPON the Face OF the Earth…
TO the Day, Mortal Man, IS: By the Power of God…”MADE EXTINCT.

Gods Warning…
A Change TO the Face of the Earth and Its Inhabitants… IS Coming….SHALL BE Manifested and Come into Fruition.
SHALL AFFECT every manKind of Being…
Who is “prepared… or Not.”

Gods Advice…
Prepare ”yourself”, According to Gods Order, Way…to BE “WITH or WITHOUT God eternally”…”AS “YOU” Freely Choose”.

Gods Directive…
Teach “your own offspring” … HOW TO:
BE “WITH or WITHOUT God eternally”…
that “they” are “informed”, “prepared” to Freely Choose.

Be Patient, Watch, Notice Visible Signs, Trust God IS Faithful that “the Divided”, SHALL BE “MADE Separated”, according TO:
Gods Order and Way.

Glory to God,
Taken

Wow. That’s a lot of smoke for someone who can’t quote a single verse to prove that anyone outside Christ is still in covenant.

The New Testament says:

“He is not a Jew who is one outwardly” — Romans 2:28
“If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s seed” — Galatians 3:29
“There is no longer Jew nor Greek... but you are all one in Christ” — Galatians 3:28
“He made the two groups one... to create in Himself one new man” — Ephesians 2:14–15

You can dress up Scofieldism in as much Gnostic riddlespeak as you want — but it won’t change the fact that the Bible never promises salvation or covenant to anyone outside of Christ.

Ah yes, the “mysteries.” What you’re actually pushing is a Scofield-born mutation from 1909 — not divine revelation, but a blueprint for dividing the Church and glorifying an Antichrist nation that still rejects its own Messiah.

There is no covenant outside of Christ. Full stop.
History proves it. Scripture confirms it and the Gospel demands it.

 

[The Gospel of Christ]

Who is this person named Scofield, you routinely mention and accredit your words to?

Can you QUOTE him and give the source of such QUOTE?

Can you Identify WHOM you are calling “Dispensationalists” and
“WHAT” you are defining “dispensationalism” to mean?

Who / What persons are you calling Zionists?

What are “you” defining Zionist to mean?

Can you Identify a Zionist and Quote “their” “pipe Dream”?

???

You want names? Quotes? Definitions? Fine. Let’s lift the Scofield veil.

Cyrus Ingerson Scofield (1843–1921) was a convicted conman and failed lawyer-turned-preacher who published the Scofield Reference Bible in 1909 — a King James Bible stuffed with Dispensationalist propaganda, inserting John Nelson Darby’s heresies directly into the margins as if they were scripture. This weaponized text was mass-published by Oxford University Press with Rockefeller backing, then carpet-bombed across American churches by the millions as "free Bibles" — becoming the cornerstone of modern Zionist evangelicalism.

What they really distributed wasn’t a Bible. It was a Satanic, blasphemous tome that misled millions and continues to do so to this day.

Scofield Quote (1909, Scofield Reference Bible Notes on Romans 11):
“Israel is yet to have her greatest earthly exaltation and glory... There is a national future for Israel according to the flesh.”
— Scofield Reference Bible, Romans 11 footnotes

That’s Scofield inserting a second covenant into the Bible — one for “Israel after the flesh,” in direct contradiction to Romans 9:6-8.

What is Dispensationalism?
A theological system popularized in the 1800s by John Nelson Darby and institutionalized by Scofield. It falsely teaches:

God has two separate peoples: Israel and the Church
There are two covenants, two “elects,” and two redemptive plans
The Church is a pause in God’s real plan for national Israel
Jesus will return twice: once secretly for the Church (pre-trib rapture), and again for Israel
The Old Covenant will be revived in a future rebuilt temple in Jerusalem

This system didn’t exist before the 19th century. No Apostle ever taught it. No Church Father affirmed it.
It’s a recent innovation — and a dangerous one.

What is Zionism?
Zionism is the political ideology — not a biblical theology — that advocates for the return of Jews to the land of Israel and the establishment of a Jewish nation-state. Christian Zionism, which Scofield helped ignite, ties this movement to prophecy and claims it fulfills God's promises to ethnic Jews apart from faith in Christ.

That’s not biblical hope. That’s a pipe dream built on ethnic exceptionalism and Messiah rejection.

“Pipe Dream” example — John Hagee (a modern Scofieldite):
“The Jewish people do not need to come to Christ to be saved… Jesus did not come to be the Messiah to the Jews.”
— John Hagee, Houston Chronicle, April 30, 1988

That’s your modern, blasphemous, Satanic, Dispensationalist-Zionist gospel in a nutshell: Salvation without Christ. Pathetic.
A false gospel for a false Israel. No cross. No covenant. No salvation.
It’s blasphemy dressed in prophecy. A Satanic rerun of the Old Covenant — without the Messiah it was pointing to.
It's the theology of Antichrist.

So don’t play dumb with me.

You’ve built your entire worldview on Scofield’s heretical system, yet now you’re asking me to explain it to you like you’ve never heard of it? Either you’ve been lied to and don’t know any better — or you’re pretending not to, because you can’t defend it.

Either way — it’s time to repent, not deflect.
Because there is no covenant outside of Christ. Period.