Never Ending Wonderfulness
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It means, that there is a
second creation of God,
Which comes after the first
creation of God.
Yes, but if you're referring
to any scriptures that have
been written by man and published
in a book, then you will have to
indicate that when you ask it of me,
for not all scripture has been written
by man and published in a book
or any form to be read in words.
Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
That makes no logical sense…..Jesus sent his disciples out to preach about his kingdom and how to gain salvation….if it was predetermined, what was the point? And was this disciple making work to stop?
What did Jesus commission his disciples to do after his return to heaven?
Matt 28:18-20…
”And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” (NASB)
You can’t take some Scripture to support your view, and ignore others to the contrary. “All Scripture is inspired of God” according to the apostle Paul….so everything we believe must be based firmly on God’s word, otherwise a million people could make a million different claims, and how would you tell the genuine ones if there was no measuring line? Scripture does not contradict itself.
The question was where do you find predestination as a Bible teaching?
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If you want me to answer any of your questions then break them down one question per post I'm not going to go through 50 questions in one post. So if you want me to answer your questions post them one by one. And just because it doesn't make any sense to you doesn't mean anything to me I don't know why you would think that it would mean anything to me? And you don't determine anything about what I can or can't do or what God can or can't do or this or that in fact I doubt that you really determined anything at all in the creation of God. You need to keep that mind in when you address me.
I told you already, don't expect me to also give you understanding of the scriptures. If you can't see it then you can't see it now if you think it's wrong then prove it's wrong and your opinion does not prove anything except that it's just your opinion.
Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
He can, but being made in his image, means that we are also endowed with free will….otherwise the TKGE makes no sense. It was a choice to eat from that tree. Adam made that choice and threw all of his children under the bus.
That is extremely vague….why did anyone need to be “born again”?
And that tells me everything….are you the privileged one who knows because you have a direct line to God?
Do you know how many people believe that about themselves? Are they all correct? How can you tell?
Are you serious? What difference does it make if I break the questions up into single posts when you can quote the point and simply answer it? Just like I have done here….?
Your defensiveness is also telling…..you too are giving your opinion…..
Are you able to follow instructions? I specifically instructed you, if you wanted to ask me questions, that I would answer, to do so in the manner of one question per post. I thought that I had made myself clear to you, I don't mean to be disrespectful or talk down to you, but in order to have a productive discussion where perhaps something good can come from it there needs to be order. So if you want me to answer any of your questions take one question at a time per one post and post it post as many questions as you like as long as you post one question per post. Then we can try to have a productive conversation about it.
Now if that doesn't suit you or you don't like it or for whatever reason then you can go ask a question to someone else because you're asking me and since you're asking me we're going to do it my way or no way at all and I'm not asking you nor did I create this thread to make you believe anything or to change anything about you. So please keep that in mind when you approach me to converse with me about anything I posted on my thread.
If any of you,
reading my thread
want to ask me a question
About anything I posted
Please ask one question per post
So that I can address that one question in
one post and we can keep the discussion concerning
that one question in that one post.
Ask as many questions as you like
Just do it one at a time in one post at a time.
If you will do this procedure
Then I will answer and discuss
As much as you like.
reading my thread
want to ask me a question
About anything I posted
Please ask one question per post
So that I can address that one question in
one post and we can keep the discussion concerning
that one question in that one post.
Ask as many questions as you like
Just do it one at a time in one post at a time.
If you will do this procedure
Then I will answer and discuss
As much as you like.
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You that believe that
you have a free will,
the power to make
any decision in your life.
So I ask you this question:
Name one thing.
Just one thing.
That you decide.
That you think.
That you feel.
That you see.
That you do.L
Just one thing
That's not already determined
by anything else, except you.
Name just one
decision that you make
In your life that is
you doing it.
you have a free will,
the power to make
any decision in your life.
So I ask you this question:
Name one thing.
Just one thing.
That you decide.
That you think.
That you feel.
That you see.
That you do.L
Just one thing
That's not already determined
by anything else, except you.
Name just one
decision that you make
In your life that is
you doing it.
Aunty Jane
Well-Known Member
Yes, just as the devil, Adam and his wife had free will to make a decision that had nothing to do with God predetermining them. If God planned for the world to get this bad, because of the predetermined choices they made, and to have so much suffering among the human race…..what does that say about him?
Did God plan all this wickedness to take place…and if so, tell me where it says that he did….and why.
He gave the humans two choices…obey or disobey….live or die….that is free will.
What I had for breakfast….what clothes I chose to wear……and what I chose to do with my time today….?
This could get really silly if you think free will does not exist…..how could we be made in God’s image without free will? It was supposed to be a gift, but the three rebels turned it into a curse.
It's apparent to me,
That you don't follow instructions
Or for whatever reason
You just don't follow mine.
Read through what
you said to me
And pick out one thing
That you believe
You had the power
To make that decision
Or that choice
That was not already determined
By anything else
Except you.
You will not be able to meet this criteria.
Nothing that you decide
Or choose to do
Is decided
Or chosen
By you
That is not
Already decided
Or chosen
For you.
If you believe different
Prove me wrong
Anytime
Any of you
Believe different
Then what I post
Then by all means
Prove it to be wrong.
When I say prove me to be wrong
I don't mean for you to
Give me your unproven opinion
Or just take any book and quote
something out of it
And declare it to be true
Just because you believe it's true.
That is not proof of anything
Except what you believe.
Any of you
Believe different
Then what I post
Then by all means
Prove it to be wrong.
When I say prove me to be wrong
I don't mean for you to
Give me your unproven opinion
Or just take any book and quote
something out of it
And declare it to be true
Just because you believe it's true.
That is not proof of anything
Except what you believe.
Predestination
Is God knowing the end
from the beginning.
Predestination,
is Never Ending Wonderfulness.
Is God knowing the end
from the beginning.
Predestination,
is Never Ending Wonderfulness.
Behold
Well-Known Member
That God knows your beginning and how you are going to die, does not mean that God predestined it.
It only proves that God's Foreknowledge is True.
That God knows your beginning
And how you are going to die,
Does not mean that God did not predestined it.
It only proves that the predestination of
God's for knowledge is True.
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