The one who is still to come

[Matthias]

Well then now = Jesus is the LORD

No. See Psalm 110:1.

one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Let's count:
One Spirit
One Lord
One FATHER

These THREE are ECHAD = ONE UNITED ELOHIM

That’s a triad.

 

[David in NJ]

No. See Psalm 110:1.



That’s a triad.

If anyone was able to understand the construct of The Eternal Elohim it would be the construct of men's imaginations.

When did Eternity begin???

Who made Elohim???

What is the substance of the Holy Spirit???

How is the Resurrection of Trillions of dead people possible? = some of which have been eaten and disintegrated

 

[Matthias]

The one who is still to come is the Father himself.

 

[David in NJ]

The one who is still to come is the Father himself.

SomeOne Said: "If you have seen ME you have seen the FATHER"

SomeOne Said: "no one has seen the FATHER at anytime except HE who is in the Bosom of the FATHER"

SomeOne Said: "And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the Bridegroom is Coming; go out to meet Him!’

TRUTH = the Bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with Him to the wedding; and the door was shut.

 

[Matthias]

SomeOne Said: "If you have seen ME you have seen the FATHER"

SomeOne Said: "no one has seen the FATHER at anytime except HE who is in the Bosom of the FATHER"

Jesus. But that doesn’t negate the fact that the Father himself is still to come.

SomeOne Said: "And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the Bridegroom is Coming; go out to meet Him!’

TRUTH = the Bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with Him to the wedding; and the door was shut.

An event that is still in the future; the second coming of Messiah Jesus.

 

[David in NJ]

Jesus. But that doesn’t negate the fact that the Father himself is still to come.



An event that is still in the future.

Did not the FATHER come with JESUS the first time???

 

[Matthias]

Did not the FATHER come with JESUS the first time???

No. The Father remained in heaven.

 

[Matthias]

The Messiah is God’s final envoy.



The envoy who was raised up and sent into the world is coming again. The envoy’s God and Father himself is still to come.

 

[Matthias]

When you speak against Jewish monotheism you speak against the Messiah.

”[Jesus] was a first-century Jewish monotheist.” - N.T. Wright

“… monotheism stood at the center of Jewish piety and theology and was also shared by Jesus.”

(Karl-Heinz Ohlig, One or Three?, p. 23)

A simple but powerful and indisputable point.

 

[David Lamb]

“… monotheism stood at the center of Jewish piety and theology and was also shared by Jesus.”

(Karl-Heinz Ohlig, One or Three?, p. 23)

A simple but powerful and indisputable point.

But (and I know I have said this before) those who believe in the Trinity believe in one God. They are not tritheists, or whatever the word would be for a believer in three Gods.

 

[Matthias]

But (and I know I have said this before) those who believe in the Trinity believe in one God. They are not tritheists, or whatever the word would be for a believer in three Gods.

You have; several times. I don’t know how many more times I‘ll need to say that I agree with you but add this one to the pile: trinitarians are monotheists; they aren’t tritheists.

Would you acknowledge in return that we are in agreement on this point?

P.S.

The word for a believer in three gods is polytheist. Trinitarians aren’t polytheists.

 

[Matthias]

“… monotheism stood at the center of Jewish piety and theology and was also shared by Jesus.”

(Karl-Heinz Ohlig, One or Three?, p. 23)

A simple but powerful and indisputable point.

The one God of Jewish piety and theology isn’t the Trinity.

The monotheism standing at the center of Jewish piety and theology shared by Jesus is unitarian.

The one God of Jewish piety and theology is the Father.

 

[David Lamb]

You have; several times. I don’t know how many more times I‘ll need to say that I agree with you but add this one to the pile: trinitarians are monotheists; they aren’t tritheists.

Would you acknowledge in return that we are in agreement on this point?

P.S.

The word for a believer in three gods is polytheist. Trinitarians aren’t polytheists.

Sorry, entirely my fault for being repetitive.