Don't think about this words like I'm looking for glory. This is what Father demands from me and all of His children. This is His will.
No more slave to sin
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I have a mission from God to accomplish here on The Earth. And I need help from others, who knows His Spirit. I'm not smart enough and can't speak beautifully. Plus English is my second language, I'm not a leader type person, have no position, authority, fame, influence. But I can hear His voice. My mission is to clear the path - clarity and explain what is necessary and what is religious fog. As many can admit that Christianity is not a sanctuary for humanity. But there are many Christians who walk their own way despite others struggle in fleshy trap. So, not incantations like - "Jesus my savior" is what we need but clear path. When we get rid of religious fog , we'll open doors for all people to chose - be righteous and Reasonable or continue to be who they are, slaves of unreasonable instincts. God wants separation.
I'm an outsider. And I am not looking for justifications for Christianity. I can say straight what is wrong. While Christians will make excuses for their churches and their dogmas, I can say truth without hesitation.
Big Boy Johnson
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I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean by "God" and by "God's Spirit" if you aren't a Christian. Would you mind clarifying what you mean by these terms?
Also, why do think God's Spirit will guide you?
And one other thing: Why do you want to "replace yourself"?
Okay. So, why do you say this? If you aren't a Christian, are you deriving this idea, here, from some source other than the Bible? If so, what source, exactly? I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from.
Hmmm... so you think that "rejecting yourself" is to reject being guided by your feelings and desires and to be guided by the Holy Spirit instead? Am I getting your right, here?
If you aren't a Christian, why do you think there's a Holy Spirit at all, let alone that you can be guided by Him?
Okay. Well, Moses was the only one permitted to meet with God on Mount Sinai, Moses' face literally shining for a time afterward. He did see God's "hinder parts."
You're right that none of us are holy and pure (Ro. 3:10; 23; 5:6-10; Tit. 3:3-7), but God doesn't say this keeps us from Him. What separates us from Him is our unwillingness to draw near to Him in the way He tells us to. If we come to God His way (Ro. 10:9-10; 1 Jn. 1:9), He promises to draw near to us, to be found by us, and to fellowship with us forever (Ja. 4:6-10; Jer. 29:13; 1 Jn. 1:3; Rev. 3:20; He. 13:5). I think this is quite wonderful and exciting, don't you?
I don't know what you mean, exactly, by "he becomes you." Do you think you become God, or a god? Why do you say the Person of the Holy Spirit is "our bright white clothes"? I can't recall that being stated in Scripture...
Hmmm... I don't think God ignores anything in the universe. He's omnipresent and omniscient and so is always fully aware of all things everywhere. Nothing, then, escapes His attention. But God doesn't fellowship with everything in the universe. Intimate communion He reserves only for us who are made in His image and who love Him (Matt. 22:36-38; Rev. 3:20; 1 Jn. 1:3; 2 Co. 13:14; 1 Co. 1:9). But even though we bear something of His likeness, if we will not interact with Him according to the way He sets out for us to do in His word, the Bible, we cannot know and enjoy Him. Worse, He will forever separate us from Himself if we die in this condition (Jn. 3:36; 1 Jn. 5:11-12; Rev. 20:11-15).
Why do you believe this when the Bible is so clear that Jesus is your Savior? See John 1:4,10-12; 14:6; Acts 4:12; 1 Timothy 2:5; 1 John 5:11-12. Why have you decided to approach God in the way you want to do and not according to His way?
Yes, Jesus was fully human. But he was also fully divine. And he was divine before he was human. See Philippians 2:5-11; Colossians 1:12-19; 2:9-10; John 1:1-4.
How did he do this, do you think? I know what the Bible says (He. 7-10:22), but you seem to have rejected its truth.
What do you mean by "like Jesus"? Do you think you'll be able to create a universe and sustain it at every moment, as Jesus does? Do you think you'll be omniscient, omnipresent, all-powerful and perfect in love, holiness, wisdom, truth and faithfulness, as he is?
Oh? Why? And how?
Okay. Hmmm... How will you be perfect, exactly? What is it to be perfect? How, being imperfect, finite and sin-cursed are you able to accurately define what perfection is?
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Okay. How is it, being an outsider, that you can "say straight what is wrong" (I presume about Christians and the faith generally)? How do you know you have the truth? On what basis are you confident that you do?
