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Big Boy Johnson

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You are not knowing that by default through Adam, every unsaved person is a child of the devil.

No, they became a child of the devil after they arrive in the world and started sinning.
We were NOT born with a sin nature!

When God placed a person in the mother's womb... the Lord did not put sin in to them making them to be born as sinners.

What some are referring to as "sin nature" are the habits we all take on as a result of living in a world full of sin and darkness and habitually they become full of "sin nature" because they live in sin continually walking after the flesh and not after the Spirit.

God did not make anyone to be a sinner when He created them... but satan claims He did

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


We all became sinners AFTER we arrived on Club Earth so God is holding each person accountable for their own sin, not for Adam's sin

Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:


Here again.... death (separation from God) passed upon all men because all have sinned

Rom 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


Those claiming what Adam did made all people to be sinners... so WHY do they not believe verse 19 and apply the same logic???

If they did that then they would have to now claim that all have been made righteous thru the actions of Jesus



Once a person is born again of Christ's Holy Spirit, Satan is booted out and can never re-enter that person again.

If that is true then your claim that "ONLY born again Christians can commit the sin of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" because you just got finished claiming satan can never ever enter a person once they are born again

You are contradicting yourself - You can't have it both ways




Please study the scripture references about the "strong man"

You should learn to accept the entire New Testament and notice God's warnings to Christians showing that it's is possible for Christians to lose their salvation.

In other words, quit being a cherry picker!
 

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No, they became a child of the devil after they arrive in the world and started sinning.
We were NOT born with a sin nature!

When God placed a person in the mother's womb... the Lord did not put sin in to them making them to be born as sinners.

What some are referring to as "sin nature" are the habits we all take on as a result of living in a world full of sin and darkness and habitually they become full of "sin nature" because they live in sin continually walking after the flesh and not after the Spirit.

God did not make anyone to be a sinner when He created them... but satan claims He did

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;


We all became sinners AFTER we arrived on Club Earth so God is holding each person accountable for their own sin, not for Adam's sin

Romans 5:12
Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:


Here again.... death (separation from God) passed upon all men because all have sinned

Rom 5:19
For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.


Those claiming what Adam did made all people to be sinners... so WHY do they not believe verse 19 and apply the same logic???

If they did that then they would have to now claim that all have been made righteous thru the actions of Jesus
First and foremost, no human is born into this world with an eternal living soul, nor are they pre-existent waiting for a mortal birth!!
Ever since the mortal creation of Adam and Eve, all are born as a mere mortals.
Gen. 3
[22] And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
[24] So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.
 

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If that is true then your claim that "ONLY born again Christians can commit the sin of the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" because you just got finished claiming satan can never ever enter a person once they are born again

You are contradicting yourself - You can't have it both ways
When one is freely given the Gift of the Holy Spirit, and then they reject Him out of their life, the Holy Spirit will permanently leave that person, and they shall revert back to their previous existence, whereby satan is able to take up residence within them again.

Please read the following within the context of the other gospel references about the strong man:
Luke 11
[24] When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house [temple body] whence I came out.
[25] And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
[26] Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
 

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First and foremost, no human is born into this world with an eternal living soul

Anybody not born with spirit, soul, and body was not created in God's image and has no business being here such as the nephilim which is why the Lord took them out in the flood.

Babies are actually alive unto the Lord until the age of accountability when they become aware of right and wrong and choose to do wrong. Paul spoke about that:

Romans 7:9
For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Romans 1:20,21

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.




When one is freely given the Gift of the Holy Spirit, and then they reject Him out of their life, the Holy Spirit will permanently leave that person, and they shall revert back to their previous existence, whereby satan is able to take up residence within them again.

Earlier you said "Once a person is born again of Christ's Holy Spirit, satan is booted out and can never re-enter that person again."

Now you are saying what you said earlier is not true. :funlaugh2
 

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I have been pondering whether or not we can discover where we are in God's timeline.

I would suggest that we start in Leviticus and Deuteronomy in the "If then," "not if then," and "but if then," chapters in these two books of the Bible.

I would suggest that we are still in the "not if" sections of these two books. The "if" section did not last too long as the iniquities of the fathers kicked in very quickly and the "but if" portion of these two books will, in my understanding, start to play out in around twenty years from now.

God's promises to enter into a covenant of peace with His Saints by the removal of the influence of the "beasts, the Little Horn and Satan" from the face of the earth for a season, so that we can renew our minds and put on the refurbished personhood that God has intended us to become during the last Age.

God is wanting His Saints to willingly enter into the "But If" period for mankind where we accept and apply God's statutes and commandments to ourselves as an individual person acknowledging our needs for a fulfilled relations with God on His terms so that we can inherit His earth as we grow into respecting His terms and responsibilities of His unbreakable everlasting relationship with Him.

We all need to understand and implement God's terms, statutes and conditions, to gain a life with no end in His presences.

Shalom

PS: - The longer we live the easier it is to accept that nothing every changes in God's purposes for our lives and everything remains the same within God's framework for living..
 
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God's promises to enter into a covenant of peace with His Saints

Jesus already brought with Him the New Covenant that was spoken of in the old testament

Hebrews 3:5,6
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place.

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
 

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Jesus already brought with Him the New Covenant that was spoken of in the old testament

The Original salvation Covenant has not changed at all, but what has changed is the process by which our redemption is now available to us.

Shalom
 

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So in your view Hebrews 10:9, Hebrews 8:6, and Hebrews 7:12 are lies that need to be removed from God's Word because the Holy Spirit made a mistake and was in error when He had Paul write these portions of scripture?

God's Word is very clear so clear even you should be able to understand what is being said: Jesus took away the first covenant and He established the New Covenant

If you really believe what you just said then you do acknowledge you are living by the old covenant then?
 

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Anybody not born with spirit, soul, and body was not created in God's image and has no business being here such as the nephilim which is why the Lord took them out in the flood.

Babies are actually alive unto the Lord until the age of accountability when they become aware of right and wrong and choose to do wrong. Paul spoke about that:

Romans 7:9
For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.

Romans 1:20,21

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.






Earlier you said "Once a person is born again of Christ's Holy Spirit, satan is booted out and can never re-enter that person again."

Now you are saying what you said earlier is not true. :funlaugh2
You can spin this the way you like, but what I said about satan never being able to re-enter a born again Christian, is based on the conditions of the scripture you quoted. If a person REJECTS Christ after receiving the Gift of His Holy Spirit, they are wilfully breaking the covenant of that relationship.
Hebrews 3:5,6
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after; But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
See also:
Heb. 10

[28] He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
[29] Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he WAS sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
 
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Do scouts still say this?

Seems as if the concept of preparation is losing traction over time.
 

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Nebuchadnezzar had a dream. A great statue. Daniel, under urgency, held a prayer meeting. Told the king a great deal of information, but basically, a history of the world, beginning from the kings time and ending with Jesus coming to change the world forever.
We are living in the toe nails of that statue. I don't believe Jesus will come tomorrow, but there are many prophetic pointers that indicate He could come anytime between now and I would hazard 5 years at the most. But it could be in 6 months or a year. Or it could be in 20 years. Personally I hope it's sooner rather than later. I cannot imagine how evil and uncontrollably chaotic this world could be in a 2 years time, let alone 5.
 

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So in your view Hebrews 10:9, Hebrews 8:6, and Hebrews 7:12 are lies that need to be removed from God's Word because the Holy Spirit made a mistake and was in error when He had Paul write these portions of scripture?

God's Word is very clear so clear even you should be able to understand what is being said: Jesus took away the first covenant and He established the New Covenant

If you really believe what you just said then you do acknowledge you are living by the old covenant then?

Thank you for your personal observations, however the verses you referenced also were in line with what I had posted.
 

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You can spin this the way you like

Earlier you said "Once a person is born again of Christ's Holy Spirit, satan is booted out and can never re-enter that person again"

Then you turned around and said "When one is freely given the Gift of the Holy Spirit, and then they reject Him out of their life, the Holy Spirit will permanently leave that person, and they shall revert back to their previous existence, whereby satan is able to take up residence within them again"

You must be doing bible studying with the Kontradiction Kings :funlaugh2

You obviously don't understand that God created man in His Image meaning man has free will and God will not violate that free will because it was God that sovereignly decided to give man free will be created man in His Image. God has free will and so do we.

This is why so called OSAS is false doctrine. If one turns away from the Lord God must let them go otherwise He would be violating His own sovereignty making Himself out to be a liar which cannot happen.

But, if like the prodigal son they return unto the Lord with humbleness and sincerity, the Lord will receive them back just like Jesus demonstrated in His teaching about the prodigal son




Do scouts still say this?

Nah, today they say "Meh, whatever" and then they rolls their eyes and go back top playing video games.
 

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Jesus said we are in end times. but how much time is left????

Creation awaits His return! I await for my entry to Heaven to be united with him forever!

There is no fear in (perfect) love.
 

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Any rational Christian, observing world events, can see the set up taking place for the end.

Yep and right now the Lord is handing victory to Israel who will come out of all this sitting pretty in a position of strength, power and renewed prosperity

And the Israel's neighbors hate the Jews so much that this is the setup that will eventually cause all of Israel's enemies to form an alliance with one another and will try to invade and destroy Israel which will give the Lord the opportunity to supernaturally destroy them all to be seen happening live on TV for all the world to see in real time

This will demonstrate that to the world that the God of Israel is alive and well and that would be Jesus Christ as it will be Him personally using His supernatural power to destroy Israel's enemies. This is the Psalms 83 War which has yet to be fulfilled

After this is when the world is in disarray setting the stage for the one world government and the man of sin to come to power which is the start of the great tribulation with the first half of the 7 years period mostly peaceful with the man of sin seemingly having answers to all the world's problems and since Israel still has not accepted Jesus as their Messiah they will enter in to covenant with the man of sin being deceived thinking he was sent of God to bless the world and to bless Israel.

Once the second half of the great tribulation gets all messy resulting in what appears to a successful invasion of Israel by major nations of the world (gog magog, kings of the east, etc) where Israel is losing and is about to be totally annihilated, Jesus returns physically to earth with His faithful setting foot on the mount of Olives destroying Israel's invaders, casting the anti-christ and the false prophet in to the lake of fire and locks up all evil spirits in hell at which time Jesus setups His 1000 Year Reign to be supreme Ruler of the entire Word ruling with a hand of iron!

So those demanding the destruction of Israel will be very disappointed! :funlaugh2
 
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The question on everyone’s lips today is, “Are we living in the end times?”

From wars and plagues to rising moral decay and freak weather, even atheists are wondering if something is wrong.

What Does the Bible Say About the End Times?
Jesus taught explicitly about the end times in Matthew 24. His disciples asked Him the same question:

“Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?” (Matthew 24:3, ESV)...(link removed)
Besides the escalation in frequency snd intensity of natural disasters, pestilence, famine, wars and lawlessness ( called the "Beginning of Sorrows"), Jesus gave us a key sign in Matt. 24:14 " And the gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations and then the end will come".

We are there. We have recently accomplished that goal. Of course not every single individual has heard - but every nation and tribe has.
 

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In the words of Jesus Christ.

Mark 13:35-37 - Watch ye therefore, for ye know not when the master of the house comes, at evening, or at midnight, or at the cock crowing, or in the morning. Lest coming suddenly, he finds you sleeping. And what I say to you, I say to all, Watch.