ARE YOU ABLE TO HEAL THE SICK?

[Doug]

[Mark 16:15-18 KJV] 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

There are those that say all that Jesus taught, preached, and commanded pertains to us. All that Jesus gave the disciples was intended to be ours as well, and is for us to claim.

Mark 16:18 above says that those who believe will heal the sick in his name. If you think all Jesus said to the disciples was directed to you as well then you should expect to be able to heal. How many multitudes have you healed? Jesus healed multitudes and his fame spread abroad. Why is it we hear of no one in this dispensation renowned for true healings?

I am sure there will be refutes and explanations as to why you aren't able to heal.

One may say, well this is the spiritual healing Paul spoke of in 1 Corinthians 12. The Spirit gives the gifts of signs at his will. This is not the case; the signs in 1 Corinthians 12 speak of the gifts given to the body of Christ. The body of Christ wasn't being formed during Christ's earthly ministry when he spoke in Mark 16. Not all received the gift of healing in the body of Christ (1 Corinthians 12:8 30), so this would mean the healing in Mark 16:18 didn't apply to you after all. If this is the case, then it must be acknowledged that not all that Jesus gave the disciples was intended to be to us as well.

One may say, Jesus didn't mean all would be healed, only some. Jesus didn't say some would be healed, he said those that believe, there are no limitations expressed.

One may say all the signs in Mark 16:17-18 were intended to be exhibited in the future. Now this may be the case, and explains why this passage wasn't meant for you after all. Let's examine this.

In the book of Acts we can find some of these signs being fulfilled by the disciples, but not all.

Lets look at the signs here again.

[Mark 16:17-18 KJV] 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Peter had the sign of healing

[Act 3:7 KJV] 7 And he took him by the right hand, and lifted [him] up: and immediately his feet and ankle bones received strength.

Philip exhibited the signs of casting out devils and healing.

[Act 8:7 KJV] 7 For unclean spirits, crying with loud voice, came out of many that were possessed [with them]: and many taken with palsies, and that were lame, were healed.

The disciples spoke with tongues.

[Act 2:4 KJV] 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

What is not recorded in scripture is the ability to take up serpents and not being hurt by drinking any deadly thing.

in Acts 28:5 Paul was bitten by a snake and felt no harm, but there is no record of this for Peter and the disciples.

I would say not all the signs in Mark were exhibited by the disciples, so not all that was said in this passage by Jesus pertained to them; why would you still think that all Jesus said would be given to you.

It may be that none of these signs were meant to be exhibited until the future when all the world would have the gospel preached unto them. Jesus confirmed the preaching of the disciples with signs (Mark 16:20 Acts 5:12 8:13); maybe the signs they were given during their ministry were not the same signs in Mark 16:17-18. None the less, even if the case, this passage would not apply to you as well.

The words of Jesus were to be received and obeyed, but by Israel. We can learn from all of the words of Christ.

 

[Rockerduck]

Yes, Jesus can heal the sick through humans. I have, by the Grace of God.

 

[Doug]

Yes, Jesus can heal the sick through humans. I have, by the Grace of God.

Please elaborate how you have healed

 

[Rockerduck]

Please elaborate how you have healed

On some I did Lay on of hands and others I prayed for them.

 

[Doug]

On some I did Lay on of hands and others I prayed for them.

Are you saying they were completely healed of physically afflictions? Who documented this? This would be astounding. Where is this recorded for the world?

 

[Rockerduck]

Are you saying they were completely healed of physically afflictions? Who documented this? This would be astounding. Where is this recorded for the world?

Well, no documentation. A lady had a stroke and was 83 yrs old. I went down to see her. visited her and prayed for her. She was discharged the next day completely healed.

 

[Doug]

Well, no documentation. A lady had a stroke and was 83 yrs old. I went down to see her. visited her and prayed for her. She was discharged the next day completely healed.

Very well
any more?

 

[MatthewG]

Not at all.

Never healed someone in my entire life.

Some say you lack faith and cant do it, but I dont think that is how it works.

 

[Rockerduck]

Very well
any more?

Yes. a 78 yr old lady called me and said she hurt her back and can't move. I came over, layed my hands on her and prayed for her back to be healed. Before I got to my car in the driveway, she walked out and caught me and said she was healed. God is merciful and can work through people.

 

[MatthewG]

Yes. a 78 yr old lady called me and said she hurt her back and can't move. I came over, layed my hands on her and prayed for her back to be healed. Before I got to my car in the driveway, she walked out and caught me and said she was healed. God is merciful and can work through people.

People also lie, I can't trust you on your word about it. You are making it about yourself.


I ... I ... I ...

 

[MatthewG]

Ive heard some bogus stories in my life...

People healing peoples sight.
People healing their backs.
People healing their guts.

Man, then afterwards, their guts still hurt, backs still hurt, sight still blind.

Fake healings, fake facades.... oh but they believe they did something....

It's all a con, sure Dopamine feels great, but at the same time it only last for a moment of time, and everything goes back to the way it was.

Your body is gonna die.

 

[MatthewG]

I couldnt thank God enough for the breathe of life he gives, despite the pains and aches people go through.

They think if they are healed they are blessed, oh look at me, look at me!

The real healing is the healing of an evil heart, which is transformed into an actual loving heart, which is by and through Yeshua, and allowing Yahavah work in and with you as you go about your life looking faithful towards him...

DESPITE the aches and pains, and the growing weary. Yeah go to a doctor if you need to but at the same time.


Jesus was beat, battered, and bruised, suffering along to the end of his life. So shall it be, for us all.

Our bodies are meant to break down, cause just as Jesus died, so are we to die.

While living we die to ourselves (oh i wanna stop hurting ya ya) yeah i get it...

We die our selfish ways, etc. and rise in Christ to live by the spirit which is a choice.

 

[ScottA]

I couldnt thank God enough for the breathe of life he gives, despite the pains and aches people go through.

They think if they are healed they are blessed, oh look at me, look at me!

The real healing is the healing of an evil heart, which is transformed into an actual loving heart, which is by and through Yeshua, and allowing Yahavah work in and with you as you go about your life looking faithful towards him...

DESPITE the aches and pains, and the growing weary. Yeah go to a doctor if you need to but at the same time.


Jesus was beat, battered, and bruised, suffering along to the end of his life. So shall it be, for us all.

Our bodies are meant to break down, cause just as Jesus died, so are we to die.

While living we die to ourselves (oh i wanna stop hurting ya ya) yeah i get it...

We die our selfish ways, etc. and rise in Christ to live by the spirit which is a choice.

Oh Matthew, I understand why you do not believe all that people say, but do not think that God does not still do miracles.

To your credit--these are indeed different times. These are not those times which God ministered to the flesh, performing many physical miracles in the natural world. These, however, are those times of "greater works than these."

"However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual."​

During these times the miracles are "as the wind", not seen, but moving ever powerful, just as it is written. Even so, in the world while there are still those to whom God is ministering first in the flesh--natural miracles will occur.

 

[MatthewG]

Oh Matthew, I understand why you do not believe all that people say, but do not think that God does not still do miracles.

To your credit--these are indeed different times. These are not those times which God ministered to the flesh, performing many physical miracles in the natural world. These, however, are those times of "greater works than these."

"However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual."​

During these times the miracles are "as the wind", not seen, but moving ever powerful, just as it is written. Even so, in the world while there are still those to whom God is ministering first in the flesh--natural miracles will occur.

Thank you for understanding where I am coming from. It was a miracle I didn't get hit on the side of the road by a car one day riding my on my e-bike, it was a near miss. But I can't make my life story on that. The only change that truly mattered was the one of the heart...

And today, while sure, miracles can still happen.

I hate it for all those who have been bamboozled with fake healings, and facades. I hate it all.

Cause those are misleading destructions which lead people to be like WHY GOD, WHY HAVENT YOU DONE ANYTHING in the middle of a field somewhere...

I don't place my hope in those things, but the hope to go and be with Yahavah after this life, that was what we are to seek first.

Another thing I don't get from people is "Why can't God save people from harm," Why does he let people choose to do evil and not stop it? God would have to then start stopping every single evil that is on earth... and Idk. that just seems implausible.


If we have free will, Yahavah also has free will, and we can not beacon him, to do our will.

 

[Triumph1300]

Why would people pray for sick people if they don't believe in healing?
I know many Pentecostals praying for the sick, and they believe in healing.
I know many Baptists praying for the sick, but they don't believe it's for today.

Why pray if you think it's not for today? Seems kind of strange.
(I guess it makes people feel good.)
Yet it's happening.

 

[MatthewG]

Why would people pray for sick people if they don't believe in healing?
I know many Pentecostals praying for the sick, and they believe in healing.
I know many Baptists praying for the sick, but they don't believe it's for today.

Why pray if you think it's not for today? Seems kind of strange.
Yet it's happening.

There is some type of prosperity Gospel, you will never be sick etc... bunch a lies.

Prayer is an important connection with Yahavah through Yeshua.

Praying for all matters of life and things. I don't pray for my body aches, as much as just asking Yahavah to help people by the spirit to be guided to him, and to watch over the ones I have ever seen in my life.

It helps me stay connected.


The true sickness is the one of the heart. Which is need of healing.

 

[Triumph1300]

It helps me stay connected.

Well....being connected, that's great.

 

[ScottA]

Thank you for understanding where I am coming from. It was a miracle I didn't get hit on the side of the road by a car one day riding my on my e-bike, it was a near miss. But I can't make my life story on that. The only change that truly mattered was the one of the heart...

And today, while sure, miracles can still happen.

I hate it for all those who have been bamboozled with fake healings, and facades. I hate it all.

Cause those are misleading destructions which lead people to be like WHY GOD, WHY HAVENT YOU DONE ANYTHING in the middle of a field somewhere...

I don't place my hope in those things, but the hope to go and be with Yahavah after this life, that was what we are to seek first.

Another thing I don't get from people is "Why can't God save people from harm," Why does he let people choose to do evil and not stop it? God would have to then start stopping every single evil that is on earth... and Idk. that just seems implausible.


If we have free will, Yahavah also has free will, and we can not beacon him, to do our will.

God hates those things also.

The reason God does not always save people from harm--is: This world of harms, of good and evil, is His "save"--this is His salvation plan, that given the opportunity, we can turn from all that is evil--to Him. As children of sinful parents and heritage, this is the opportunity and choice God has given us--it's a gift--that we should not otherwise surely die.