Who Are God’s Chosen People?

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Big Boy Johnson

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You have an awful style

That's just your opinion. Feel free to not read my posts and your problems will be solved!




I would be more concerned with your misrepresentation of Christ's Spirit.

In other words, the Lord would not correct false doctrine, got it.





Augustine was hardly a "nut job."

One has to be a nutjob themselves to follow satanic, gnostic teachings of Augustine.

No wonder you don't like my "style" - I don't agree with the Augustine heresy




The church denominations formed after his theology would be outraged at your characterization of them as "evil" or "satanic."

They are all heretics so their opinion doesn't matter as they follow a fake jesus, the one that twists God's Word which they learned from the devil.





I don't respect bad manners either.

Then quit espousing false doctrine!





No, Predestination was taught by Jesus and by Paul. That's where Augustine got it. Calvin added to it, after Luther copied it from Augustine.

Again, I was not passing on Calvinism, which is Double Predestination. I was passing on Predestination, which Jesus, Paul, Augustine, and Luther taught as well. So quit calling my statements in this thread "Calvinism." However, I do like Calvin.

That's that false doctrine again.

Jesus did not teach any of the false doctrines of calvinism

Now those following the fake jesus (devils) believe jesus was a calvinist




I was not advocating for Calvinism

And yet you keep speaking favorably of tenants of calvinism





Done with you...

Suit yourself bud.
 

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That's just your opinion. Feel free to not read my posts and your problems will be solved!






In other words, the Lord would not correct false doctrine, got it.







One has to be a nutjob themselves to follow satanic, gnostic teachings of Augustine.

No wonder you don't like my "style" - I don't agree with the Augustine heresy






They are all heretics so their opinion doesn't matter as they follow a fake jesus, the one that twists God's Word which they learned from the devil.







Then quit espousing false doctrine!







That's that false doctrine again.

Jesus did not teach any of the false doctrines of calvinism

Now those following the fake jesus (devils) believe jesus was a calvinist






And yet you keep speaking favorably of tenants of calvinism







Suit yourself bud.
Something tells me.. You have been this way all your life....

Too bad the Holy Spirit was not able to transform you....
Because you want to do things under your own power.
Apparently...
You’ve been pushing your weight around to get your way in the world.
Not His way.

Look. It's dumb. You just do not get what is needed.
We are not talking Calvinism.
It's your straw man.

If you got rid of it?
You would not be able to push your weight around.
For you have nothing to say to build others up.


Only tear down your make believe straw doll..
 

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Something tells me.. You have been this way all your life....

Too bad the Holy Spirit was not able to transform you....
Because you want to do things under your own power.
Apparently...
You’ve been pushing your weight around to get your way in the world.
Not His way.

Look. It's dumb. You just do not get what is needed.
We are not talking Calvinism.
It's your straw man.

If you got rid of it?
You would not be able to push your weight around.
For you have nothing to say to build others up.


Only tear down your make believe straw doll..

You calvinists are a total clown show! :Laughingoutloud:
 

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We go by what the Lord says in His Word

If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away.
For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your
whole body be thrown into hell.
And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away.
For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole
body go into hell.



There you go, hot shot.
Now you go by what it says.

Problems happen when the Word will require that we must learn more to think with and to understand with insight.

Big babies need to learn to be quiet and first learn something they are missing.

We do not want Baby Huey's teaching us the Bible as the final word.

If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously
to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you." James 1:5​
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If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.


There you go, hot shot.
Now you go by what it says.

IF I'm ever unable to stop sinning, this would be the next step.

It's a good thing I can actually stop sin in my life because I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me. (Philippians 4:13)




Big babies need to learn to be quiet and first learn something they are missing.

Sounds like you need to shut up then! :funlaugh2
 

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IF I'm ever unable to stop sinning, this would be the next step.

It's a good thing I can actually stop sin in my life because I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me. (Philippians 4:13)

There are a lot of "all things" you have yet to learn about.
Hard to understand when you believe you already know all you need to know.

For now.?...
The only way to relate to you, would be to allow you to drag me down to the level you operate on.

Solution... Ignore.
 

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Once again, it is so... easy... to fall into the world's trap of creating one's own theology by not covering all the written Biblical details of a matter.

Matt 22:14
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
KJV


When Lord Jesus said the above, He was pointing to those of Israel that were supposed to become a chosen kingdom of priests (Ex.19:6). But when He said the following Scripture...

Matt 20:16
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
KJV


... He was speaking of those who would believe on Him after The Gospel had been rejected by the majority of Israel at His 1st coming.

In Acts 9 we are shown the example of Saul having been a "chosen vessel" by Lord Jesus. Saul originally was a Pharisee hunting down Christians to bring them back to Jerusalem for trial, so he was persecuting the Church. Then Jesus converted Saul on the road to Damascus when Saul was in the very act of hunting Christians. Jesus called him "My chosen vessel" in Acts 9, and Paul (i.e., Saul) would write the majority of the Books of The New Testament. Because Lord Jesus divinely intervened with Paul, it means Paul did not choose to believe, Christ forced Paul's belief, took all doubt away from Paul. That is the sign of a 'chosen' sent one, an apostle. The word apostle means 'to be sent'.

In John 17, in Lord Jesus' prayer, He showed that The Father originally owned Christ's apostles, and gave them to Lord Jesus. Thus ownership... is the key to one being a 'chosen' sent one, apostle. And those... are who Paul's usage of idea like Romans 8 predestinate and sanctified, is about. Those are the 'chosen', and they can NEVER fall away from Christ, for they are already owned by Him. That is why His apostles got up and followed Jesus when He commanded them, their asking no questions.

There are still apostles chosen to this day, but not like Christ's Apostles that were with Him. There are still some chosen leaders of Christ's body today that can never fall away, because they are already owned by Christ Jesus, and He influences their lives in His service for the benefit of the whole body, the Church.

Yet we are not all... chosen sent ones, but most are 'called' only. And if called only, that means one CAN still fall away from Christ IF... they allow it. Those called only MUST themselves choose.

I will show why... this is so Biblically... and apologize to @LoveYeshua if it seems I'm trying to takeover this thread.

(Continued...)
 

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The following 2 Thessalonians 2 Chapter was a Warning by Apostle Paul to the 'chosen' elect who would... understand... it. The fact that today many churches show they do NOT understand its simplicity that Apostle Paul used, but instead add outside un-Biblical interpretations to it, reveals those are not 'chosen.'

2 Thess 2:1-15
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,


Paul's subject is the timing of Christ's future coming and gathering of the Church.

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

That "day of Christ" phrase is actually about the "day of the Lord" of the Old Testament prophets. In some Greek manuscripts the Greek word kurios for 'lord' is used instead of Greek christos. Per other Scripture, like 1 Thess.5 by Paul, and 2 Pet.3 by Peter, we know that "day of the Lord" is to come "as a thief in the night", and Lord Jesus gave that idea of the thief breaking in as a metaphor for the day of His future coming in Matt.24 and Mark 13. In Revelation 16:15, Lord Jesus said He comes "as a thief".

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

That "day of the Lord", i.e., the day of Christ's future coming to gather the Church, shall not come unless those 2 events happen first:

1. "a falling away",
AND...
2. "that man of sin be revealed"

Verse 4 above gives HOW that "man of sin" will be revealed, and that "falling away" is TIED to those acts by that "man of sin", who by the way, has NOT appeared in the world yet today.

Many churches today do not know what that "man of sin" is coming to do, nor what will cause that great "falling away", which is about many believers becoming apostates away from Christ Jesus.

Paul says that "man of sin" will exalt himself, sitting in the "temple of God", showing himself that he is God, and over ALL that is CALLED God, or that is worshiped. Deceived Churches that do not understand that have tried... to claim that "temple of God" there is about the Christian Church when it is definitely NOT! Those doing that are mostly those who support the false idea that a pope is that "man of sin", when it is not.

In Matthew 24:23-26, (which is actually in the singular tense by the way), Jesus warned of this coming "man of sin" where the deceived will say, "Lo, here is Christ, or there;" and Jesus said believe it not. Jesus warned that if they say, "Behold, He is in the desert", or "behold, He is in the secret chambers", believe it not. The phrase in Matt.24:24 "false Christs" is the Greek word pseudochristos. Dr. James Strong in his Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defined pseudochristos to mean 'a spurious Messiah', no doubt because of how the 23rd and 26th verses are in the singular tense about a false Christ.

So there's your actual "man of sin" Paul was pointing to that is to come to Jerusalem at the end of this world, and exalt himself in a new built 3rd stone temple. He will proclaim himself as The Messiah, Christ.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.


Daniel 10, which reveals a shadow of heavenly events that parallel events happening on earth, also reveals who it is that does that withholding. It is Archangel Michael in Heaven. This is why it will also be Archangel Michael and his angels that will boot Satan and his angels out of Heaven down to our earth at the END, as written about the war in Heaven per Revelation 12:7-17. That war has not happened yet today, but it is soon coming. And by this, Apostle Paul was actually revealing the identity of that "man of sin" will be the devil, Satan himself coming to earth, in person, not hidden, but in plain sight. And the whole world will 'wonder' at him, except Christ's elect will not.

7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

Once again, that is Archangel Michael who is withholding Satan in Heaven right now, until it is time for Satan to be booted out of Heaven down to this earth in our earthly dimension. Per Rev.12:7-14, when that happens, he will no longer be able to accuse us in Heaven before God's Throne.

8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of His mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:
9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with
all power and signs and lying wonders,

Paul reveals that it will be Christ's future coming that will destroy that "man of sin". Satan will play that false-Messiah ROLE that will be destroyed by Christ at His coming. This reveals that false-Messiah comes first to PLAY Jesus Christ to cause the "falling away".

In Matt.24:24, Jesus showed that coming false-Messiah will work great signs and wonders that IF IT WERE POSSIBLE, would deceive even His very elect. Those are the same signs and lying wonders Paul is mentioning here in 2 Thess.2:9, and thus Paul links this "man of sin" with that same spurious-Messiah that Jesus warned of in Matt.24.

10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them
strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

That "strong delusion" of course is this event by that coming false-Messiah-man-of-sin that will show up in Jerusalem at the END of this world, and exalt himself in a new stone temple there, and proclaim himself as God with miracles that will fool the whole world into believing it, except Christ's elect won't believe it (Rev.13:4-8).

And that means many brethren... in the Church will be subject to that "strong delusion", because they are NOT being shown what Paul was actually warning about here, and instead are fed lies that practically go against it; (like the falling away has already begun when it has not because that false-Messiah is not here yet. And their lies that a pope is that false-Messiah, or that the Antichrist is already born in the flesh and is in the world today, when that idea is false too, for Satan will never be born in the flesh to show up on earth with the image of man. They just do not know, so they have to make up stuff, showing they are already deceived in not knowing who that "man of sin" is going to be.)

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Took me a while to understand how those two 11 & 12 verses could apply to deceived brethren believers on Jesus Christ that will fall away when that false-Messiah comes. God's Word actually does... warn us about Satan coming to earth as that "man of sin". I've already covered quite a few of the pointers right here in this post. Christ's Revelation covers several more showing it will be Satan himself, like in Rev.13 & 17.

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14 Whereunto He called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15
Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
KJV

Do you see the CONDITION Paul gave in that 15th verse? Only IF... we do that, are we in that "chosen" category. And the mere fact that Paul gave that condition in verse 15 reveals that SOME brethren CAN, and WILL fall away at the END of the world by this future coming event of the false-Messiah.
 
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Once again, it is so... easy... to fall into the world's trap of creating one's own theology by not covering all the written Biblical details of a matter.

Matt 22:14
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
KJV


When Lord Jesus said the above, He was pointing to those of Israel that were supposed to become a chosen kingdom of priests (Ex.19:6). But when He said the following Scripture...

Matt 20:16
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
KJV


... He was speaking of those who would believe on Him after The Gospel had been rejected by the majority of Israel at His 1st coming.

In Acts 9 we are shown the example of Saul having been a "chosen vessel" by Lord Jesus. Saul originally was a Pharisee hunting down Christians to bring them back to Jerusalem for trial, so he was persecuting the Church. Then Jesus converted Saul on the road to Damascus when Saul was in the very act of hunting Christians. Jesus called him "My chosen vessel" in Acts 9, and Paul (i.e., Saul) would write the majority of the Books of The New Testament. Because Lord Jesus divinely intervened with Paul, it means Paul did not choose to believe, Christ forced Paul's belief, took all doubt away from Paul. That is the sign of a 'chosen' sent one, an apostle. The word apostle means 'to be sent'.

In John 17, in Lord Jesus' prayer, He showed that The Father originally owned Christ's apostles, and gave them to Lord Jesus. Thus ownership... is the key to one being a 'chosen' sent one, apostle. And those... are who Paul's usage of idea like Romans 8 predestinate and sanctified, is about. Those are the 'chosen', and they can NEVER fall away from Christ, for they are already owned by Him. That is why His apostles got up and followed Jesus when He commanded them, their asking no questions.

There are still apostles chosen to this day, but not like Christ's Apostles that were with Him. There are still some chosen leaders of Christ's body today that can never fall away, because they are already owned by Christ Jesus, and He influences their lives in His service for the benefit of the whole body, the Church.

Yet we are not all... chosen sent ones, but most are 'called' only. And if called only, that means one CAN still fall away from Christ IF... they allow it. Those called only MUST themselves choose.

I will show why... this is so Biblically... and apologize to @LoveYeshua if it seems I'm trying to takeover this thread.

(Continued...)
Thank you for sharing your insights But let’s go back to what Jesus Himself taught about being chosen and called, and who truly belongs to Him.

You quoted “Many are called, but few are chosen” (Matthew 22:14 and 20:16). But Jesus never said that the “chosen” are people forced to believe, or that they can never fall away. In fact, He warned that even those who believe for a while can fall away if they have no root or if they are choked by the cares of life (Luke 8:13-14). He also warned that some would say, “Lord, Lord,” but He would say, “I never knew you” because they practiced lawlessness (Matthew 7:21-23).

In the parable where Jesus says “many are called, but few are chosen” (Matthew 22), He is speaking about a wedding feast where someone came in without the proper garment and was cast out. This shows that even if someone is called and comes, they still need to be properly clothed—in righteousness—to remain (Matthew 22:11-14). It has nothing to do with being “owned” by God in a way that removes free will.

Jesus did not force anyone to follow Him. Even Judas was chosen to be an apostle, yet he fell away (John 6:70). Jesus gave people the choice: “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Me” (Matthew 16:24). He never taught that the chosen cannot fall.

As for the disciples being given to Jesus by the Father (John 17:6), it does not mean they were forced to believe. Jesus said clearly that they “have kept Your word” and “they have received [the words] and have known surely that I came forth from You” (John 17:6-8). They believed and obeyed of their own will. God gave them to Christ because they were willing to listen and follow. That’s what Jesus said in John 6:37: “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will by no means cast out.” Notice—the one who comes—that means a personal decision is involved.

There is no Scripture from Jesus that says some are “owned” and therefore cannot fall. Instead, He taught: “Abide in Me, and I in you… If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered” (John 15:4-6). Even those who were once in Him can be cut off if they stop abiding.

And nowhere did Jesus say Paul was His chosen apostle above all. Jesus already chose twelve (Matthew 10:1-4) and said to them: “You also will sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel” (Matthew 19:28). That means the twelve were complete, even after Judas was replaced by another (Acts 1:26), not by Paul. Jesus never mentioned Paul by name—not once—in the Gospels or Revelation. That silence should make us careful.

In truth, Jesus calls all people, but only those who hear His voice and follow will be among the chosen (John 10:27-28). The invitation is open, but it must be accepted with faith and obedience. That’s why Jesus said, “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven” (Matthew 7:21).

So yes, many are called. But the chosen are those who hear, believe, obey, and endure to the end (Matthew 24:13). That is what Jesus taught, and His words will judge us on the last day (John 12:48).

Let us keep following His voice, not a theology built from others.
 

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When reading the Bible it was the nation of Israel, the 12 tribes.

God also promised to destroy them as well for killing the only begotten Son.
 

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When reading the Bible it was the nation of Israel, the 12 tribes.

God also promised to destroy them as well for killing the only begotten Son.
God will destroy the people responsible yes but not all were partakers in the odious crime of putting God's son to death, the 12 tribes will survive as he promised as seen in the book of revelations;

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel:

and

Rev 21:12 The city had a great and high wall with twelve gates inscribed with the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, and twelve angels at the gates.

they will be forever.

I will add something that I know, that many here are from the LOST 12 tribes of Israel and do not know it yet.
 

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Once again, it is so... easy... to fall into the world's trap of creating one's own theology by not covering all the written Biblical details of a matter.

Matt 22:14
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
KJV


When Lord Jesus said the above, He was pointing to those of Israel that were supposed to become a chosen kingdom of priests (Ex.19:6). But when He said the following Scripture...

Matt 20:16
16 So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
KJV


... He was speaking of those who would believe on Him after The Gospel had been rejected by the majority of Israel at His 1st coming.

In Acts 9 we are shown the example of Saul having been a "chosen vessel" by Lord Jesus. Saul originally was a Pharisee hunting down Christians to bring them back to Jerusalem for trial, so he was persecuting the Church. Then Jesus converted Saul on the road to Damascus when Saul was in the very act of hunting Christians. Jesus called him "My chosen vessel" in Acts 9, and Paul (i.e., Saul) would write the majority of the Books of The New Testament. Because Lord Jesus divinely intervened with Paul, it means Paul did not choose to believe, Christ forced Paul's belief, took all doubt away from Paul. That is the sign of a 'chosen' sent one, an apostle. The word apostle means 'to be sent'.

In John 17, in Lord Jesus' prayer, He showed that The Father originally owned Christ's apostles, and gave them to Lord Jesus. Thus ownership... is the key to one being a 'chosen' sent one, apostle. And those... are who Paul's usage of idea like Romans 8 predestinate and sanctified, is about. Those are the 'chosen', and they can NEVER fall away from Christ, for they are already owned by Him. That is why His apostles got up and followed Jesus when He commanded them, their asking no questions.

There are still apostles chosen to this day, but not like Christ's Apostles that were with Him. There are still some chosen leaders of Christ's body today that can never fall away, because they are already owned by Christ Jesus, and He influences their lives in His service for the benefit of the whole body, the Church.

Yet we are not all... chosen sent ones, but most are 'called' only. And if called only, that means one CAN still fall away from Christ IF... they allow it. Those called only MUST themselves choose.

I will show why... this is so Biblically... and apologize to @LoveYeshua if it seems I'm trying to takeover this thread.

(Continued...)

I would like to add to that with some insight I was taught.

Many are called (saved) - but only a few will have been chosen to reign with Him!

Here!

The *called* are saved!

And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified;
those he justified, he also glorified.


Those he justified, he also glorified? How?

We all will be glorified in a twinkling of an eye!
By his giving us resurrection bodies A body just like His glorious body!


Philippians 3:21

Who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control,
will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.


We are in for surprises that will overwhelm us in our new state of Resurrection.
In a state of having a much greater, supernatural, capacity to know His love!

Many will be saved!
But a few of the saved will find themselves to be Chosen by God to Reign with Him!

Revelation 3:21

To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne,
just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.


Not every saved person will be given the right to reign with Him!


grace and peace!


 

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Thank you for sharing your insights But let’s go back to what Jesus Himself taught about being chosen and called, and who truly belongs to Him.

Nah, let's not go back to what YOU only care to address, which is only a specific group of Scripture, and not really The Bible as a Whole.

Address the 2 Thess.2 subject by Paul, if you want to address something about those 'chosen', and WHY... many brethren fail to understand Paul was warning about the coming of the SAME false one that Lord Jesus warned of in Matthew 24:23-26 for the END of this world. Whether or not one understands that subject reveals whether or not they are chosen, or just called and can still fall away.
 
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I would like to add to that with some insight I was taught.

Many are called (saved) - but only a few will have been chosen to reign with Him!

Here!

The *called* are saved!

And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified;
those he justified, he also glorified.


Those he justified, he also glorified? How?

We all will be glorified in a twinkling of an eye!
By his giving us resurrection bodies A body just like His glorious body!


Philippians 3:21

Who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control,
will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.


We are in for surprises that will overwhelm us in our new state of Resurrection.
In a state of having a much greater, supernatural, capacity to know His love!

Many will be saved!
But a few of the saved will find themselves to be Chosen by God to Reign with Him!

Revelation 3:21

To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne,
just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne.


Not every saved person will be given the right to reign with Him!


grace and peace!

Oh, I agree that even deceived brethren at the end of this world may... be saved during Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect. Christ's Millennial reign is going to be like a correctional facility camp for many brethren who will be deceived at the end of this world. But once again, those brethren that will be deceived confirms the idea of their 'called' only status.
 
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God will destroy the people responsible yes but not all were partakers in the odious crime of putting God's son to death, the 12 tribes will survive as he promised as seen in the book of revelations;

Rev 7:4 And I heard the number of those who were sealed, 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel:

and

Rev 21:12 The city had a great and high wall with twelve gates inscribed with the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, and twelve angels at the gates.

they will be forever.

I will add something that I know, that many here are from the LOST 12 tribes of Israel and do not know it yet.
Hello @LoveYeshua,

It is not possible for anyone today to definitively claim membership in one of the twelve tribes of Israel. This is due to the loss of genealogical records, which were destroyed when Jerusalem fell and was consumed by fire as part of divine judgment. Without those records, tribal affiliation cannot be verified. Furthermore, I believe that the economy of the believer is rooted in the heavenly realm, not in Abrahamic lineage.

I'm also a person who believes that Revelation came to fruition as promised shortly within that context, and content.
 

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When reading the Bible it was the nation of Israel, the 12 tribes.

God also promised to destroy them as well for killing the only begotten Son.
If God killed all Jews?

You would have no Bible to read.

Now, did you mean God was going to kill off all Jews?
 

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If God killed all Jews?

You would have no Bible to read.

Now, did you mean God was going to kill off all Jews?

God did what he promised to do. I am not an antisemite.

Jewish people do Jewish things because it's part of their culture. I respect people whom claim they are Jewish, but no one can claim they are part of any 12 tribes, because as I posted in #58.