Who Are God’s Chosen People?

[Big Boy Johnson]

Nope. All who are saved are members of the Body of Christ.

One cannot obtain salvation except thru Jesus which is why when Jesus was in hell He was preaching to the old testament saints in Abraham's bosom, a temporary place the Lord made for them to wait after death until Jesus came along making the new birth available and they all believed on Jesus and got born again.

Got to end the fuzzy thinking if one is to understand this!

Fuzzy thinking is the belief that the Jews have a separate way unto salvation that does not include Jesus

All Jews who don't get born again go to hell just like anybody else.

 

[GeneZ]

Nope. All who are saved are members of the Body of Christ.

One cannot obtain salvation except thru Jesus which is why when Jesus was in hell He was preaching to the old testament saints in Abraham's bosom, a temporary place the Lord made for them to wait after death until Jesus came along making the new birth available and they all believed on Jesus and got born again.

You are looking at everything as it is for this moment in time.

Did Abraham believe in Jesus?
Jesus was not born yet...

How did he become saved?

 

[Randy Kluth]

Hey, that's what that heretic John Calvin claims!

You know, that dude that had people murdered for not agreeing with his cult teachings.

Totally whacko, nutjob John Calvin was. He was definitely one of satan's best undercover operatives fooling many in to thinking he was a Christian teacher when all along he was an agent of the forces of darkness sent to infiltrate the church and bring forth much false doctrine

A flippant approach is not helpful in this discussion. I do not support Double Predestination. But the Bible says that God has a number for His elect--not just John Calvin.

Psalm 147.4 He determines the number of the stars
and calls them each by name.

Gen 15.5 He took him outside and said, “Look up at the sky and count the stars—if indeed you can count them.” Then he said to him, “So shall your offspring be.”

Wow! More ungodly lies of satan that directly opposes what God says in His Word!

Amazing how otherwise seeming intelligent are so easily deceived by the devil to believe calvinist garbage.

The calvinists God causes people to make all the decisions they make, like when a rapist violates a little child, they claim God causes the rapist to make that decision because it was God's will for the little child to get raped!

They believe this because they confuse God and the devil.

They think he['s the same guy!

How was I promoting Calvinism? How are you saying that God counts the number of His elect is unbiblical, ungodly, and necessarily "Calvinist Teaching?" You're jumping to conclusions, as well as acting pretty insensitive, in my opinion.

 

[LoveYeshua]

God has two different chosen people.

The Church and the Jews (who believe outside the Church age).

The Church will have its home in Heaven.

The Jews, theirs will be on the New Earth.

Both Chosen.

What you wrote;

""The Church will have its home in Heaven.

The Jews, theirs will be on the New Earth.""

this is new to me, would you have scripture?,

What would be the difference between Heaven and new earth with the new holy city where God will reside?

Thank you in advance

 

[GeneZ]

A flippant approach is not helpful in this discussion. I do not support Double Predestination. But the Bible says that God has a number for His elect--not just John Calvin.

Psalm 147.4 He determines the number of the stars
and calls them each by name.

Gen 15.5 He took him outside and said, “Look up at the sky and count the stars—if indeed you can count them.” Then he said to him, “So shall your offspring be.”

How was I promoting Calvinism? How are you saying that God counts the number of His elect is unbiblical, ungodly, and necessarily "Calvinist Teaching?" You're jumping to conclusions, as well as acting pretty insensitive, in my opinion.

Big Boy has had baby Christian level teachings, and is pretty good with academic data.
But he can not put it together. He only knows what confuses baby Christians.

He's another one.

The Bigger they are... the further they splat when they fall.

 

[LoveYeshua]

Jesus taught the Apostle Paul everything Paul knows, by revelation, as Paul said. Ephesians 3:2-4. So, Paul's words came from Jesus.

only Paul's word on this, NO witnesses, Jesus said clearly that if He spoke of himself his testimony would not be valid, how can you validate Paul's words with no witnesses? You cannot, My advice is this; compare with the words of Christ, if they are the same fine if they are different, Christ has full and absolute priority. witnessing is an import element throughout the bible to establish credibility, essential in fact.