Is it possible to lose salvation?

[Eternally Grateful]

EG
I won't be posting to you anymore.
Hearing from you that I do not reply to your posts is MOST TIRING.

Whats most tiring is you claim you respond to my posts. Yet you have not

Your responses are always the same. Post the same old verses over and over expecting to get a different response from me

Well the problem is those verses do not refute the verses I gave.

I spent almost an hour replying to a post of yours on here that I had already replied to at least two other times but which you deny.

So, since my time is precious...

etc.

I told you once I will tell you again. When you rspond to a verse. You post the verse. then you explain it. You know. like myself and so many others have done to EVERY verse you have posted.

But no. its ok. You want to run I get it. You can't respond to my posts.

Again, you not only make the word contradict you contradict yourself

You screamed I believe we can sin and still be saved

Yet you do not teach sinless perfection. so in effect. You teach YOU can sin and still be saved.

so don't come crying.. because you will not get any sympathy from me

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Only God knows why those who insist on corrupting Gods words think it will upset Christians when they decide to ignore us.

they ignore us when they know they can no longer fight us. because they have been exposed..

well it will not stop us from exposing them

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Here we have it K.
No need for me to post anything further to you.
You have corrupted the NT and are teaching demonic doctrine to new Christians.


Here is what you've stated just above:

"In sinning, born-again believers never risk their salvation since it is rests entirely in Jesus, not themselves. "


According to you a born again believer can be SINNING and NEVER RISK their salvation.

Then can we say that we should sin more so that grace may abound?
MAY IT NEVER BE!

That was Paul...
your hero.
Romans 6:1- 2
1 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase?
2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?


Whom you apparently do not trust.


Good night.
May God have mercy on those that make such statements.

and here we have it

once again @godgrace shows who her faith in, It is Not God, who keeps her. it is her who keeps herself.

She wants to water down the law. and make it appear she keeps it

she will not be happy when she finds out she has not kept it.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

The assumption being you have the authoritative understanding of God's word. You need to show your credentials. Please dont say you went to a "bible" college

no one had more credemtials that the pharisees in pauls day.

Yet they crucified their messiah

a college degree does not mean squat.

God sent a bunch of fishermen out to spread his word. Paul being the only scholar.

 

[GodsGrace]

Kay. I ain't worry about anything. Jesus told us not to worry.

Good for you Matthew.
Got a wife?
Children?
Friends?

You don't worry about where they'll spend eternity?
Great.
I envy you.
I tend to worry about EVERYONE since I believe in an afterlife.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

LOL
YOU don't save persons.
God does.

But you could reflect what Jesus taught.

Your right God does

You can;t save yourself. so why do you keep insisting you must (we must?)

 

[MatthewG]

Good for you Matthew.
Got a wife?
Children?
Friends?

You don't worry about where they'll spend eternity?
Great.
I envy you.
I tend to worry about EVERYONE since I believe in an afterlife.

People make their own choices. I can't die for them.


Well I thought one listened to Jesus?


Jesus said not to worry.

 

[GodsGrace]

no one had more credemtials that the pharisees in pauls day.

Yet they crucified their messiah

a college degree does not mean squat.

God sent a bunch of fishermen out to spread his word. Paul being the only scholar.

Too bad YOU are not spreading God's word
but YOUR OWN version of it.

Not replying to you but retain the right to make comments as we go along.

 

[GodsGrace]

Your right God does

You can;t save yourself. so why do you keep insisting you must (we must?)

Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

 

[MatthewG]

Too bad YOU are not spreading God's word
but YOUR OWN version of it.

Not replying to you but retain the right to make comments as we go along.

Kay. Whatever you wanna do.

Jesus said not to worry so I trust in him not to have to worry.


Cause you'll end up causing yourself a stroke or a heart attakc if you worrying to much.


God has no favorites.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Too bad YOU are not spreading God's word
but YOUR OWN version of it.

Not replying to you but retain the right to make comments as we go along.

Yet you are totally UNABLE to refute the verses I gavce and show where ANY works are required.

Even the ones which specifically say NOT OF WORKS. or NOT BY WORKS. or NOT BY EVEN RIGHTEOUS WORKS

You do not have to respond.. Just open your mouth. to show where your faith lies. In self

 

[MatthewG]

@GodsGrace,

Fighting people on here is just stupid.

I ignore people who just wanna fight makes my life a lot easier especially on websites like this.

Just cause "christianity" is in the title one has to remember it just a forum site with all kinds of different people and some that wish to be malicious.

 

[GodsGrace]

People make their own choices. I can't die for them.


Well I thought one listened to Jesus?


Jesus said not to worry.

Yes. We do tend to pick out ONLY the verses we like, don't we?

Jesus said not to worry about our fleshly life...
about our material life.

Jesus spend all His time WORRYING about our spiritual life
and taught the disciples to do the same.

Jesus spent His entire ministry of over 3 years teaching His disciples HOW to live so as to get to heaven when persons die.
He taught the Apostles to teach others also.

So, here, you do NOT post what Jesus taught,
but what you THINK He taught

or

The part of what He taught that YOU personally like.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.

Yep.

And the first thing he wills is for you to become bankrupt. fall on your knees and cry out to him, acknowledging you are lost and can not save yourself.

Receive him, and he will give you eternal life.

He will change your life

He will make you into a new creation.

You keep posting this verse over and over.

I keep showing you it is descriptive, not prescriptive

They do not obey TO ENTER the kingdom

they Obey because they have been ADOPTED into the kingdom.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yet you are totally UNABLE to refute the verses I gavce and show where ANY works are required.

Even the ones which specifically say NOT OF WORKS. or NOT BY WORKS. or NOT BY EVEN RIGHTEOUS WORKS

You do not have to respond.. Just open your mouth. to show where your faith lies. In self

Too funny.
No comment.

 

[GodsGrace]

Yep.

And the first thing he wills is for you to become bankrupt. fall on your knees and cry out to him, acknowledging you are lost and can not save yourself.

Receive him, and he will give you eternal life.

He will change your life

He will make you into a new creation.

You keep posting this verse over and over.

I keep showing you it is descriptive, not prescriptive

They do not obey TO ENTER the kingdom

they Obey because they have been ADOPTED into the kingdom.

Matthew 7:21
21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.


No comment necessary.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

@GodsGrace,

Fighting people on here is just stupid.

I ignore people who just wanna fight makes my life a lot easier especially on websites like this.

Just cause "christianity" is in the title one has to remember it just a forum site with all kinds of different people and some that wish to be malicious.

dude please stop.

The gospel is the message of salvation. It is not the same as how old is the earth. people will get sent to hell if they do not get this right.

the osas argument concerns the gospel.

and if your going to attack one. you better attack the other.

it takes two to tango

 

[MatthewG]

Yes. We do tend to pick out ONLY the verses we like, don't we?

Jesus said not to worry about our fleshly life...
about our material life.

Jesus spend all His time WORRYING about our spiritual life
and taught the disciples to do the same.

Jesus spent His entire ministry of over 3 years teaching His disciples HOW to live so as to get to heaven when persons die.
He taught the Apostles to teach others also.

So, here, you do NOT post what Jesus taught,
but what you THINK He taught

or

The part of what He taught that YOU personally like.

Are you just gonna judge me and criticise me?

What good does that do for you personally?

No I don't have a wife, or children. I do like pray for all of my family.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Too funny.
No comment.

interpretation

Your right, I just do not want people to know it.

for example

You post

2 Tim 1: 9 who HAS SAVED US (A COMPLETED ACTION) and called us with a holy calling, NOT ACCORDING TO OUR WORKS , but ACCORDING TO HIS OWN PURPOSE AND GRACE which was GIVEN TO US in Christ Jesus BEFORE TIME BEGAN

But you do not understand, there are works required. don;t read the words no works. you are misrepresenting what Paul said, because you do not knopw what the word belief means

or you post.

Rom 11: 6 And IF BY GRACE, THAN IT IS NO LONGER OF WORKS, ; otherwise GRACE IS NO LONGER GRACE.But IF IT IS OF WORKS, THEN IT IS NO LONGER OF GRACE. OTHERWISE WORK IS NO LONGER WORK

Again, your reading this wrong. there are works involved. You can not (whatever excuse you would use to deny your belief that works are required)

or going further

Titus 3: 4 But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, 5 NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS (GOOD DEEDS) WHICH WE HAVE DONE , but ACCORDING TO HIS MERCY HE SAVED USthrough the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit, 6 whom He poured out on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 that HAVING BEEN JUSTIFIED BY HIS GRACE we should become HEIRS ACCORDING TO THE HOPE OF ETERNAL LIFE

Whats your response?? I can assume you would say something like, well yes, it appears he is saying not even our good deeds can save us, but thats not true. Because you do not know what the word believe means. works are not only essential, they are required. your reading this wrong.

I mean come on @GodsGrace you make it to easy

 

[MatthewG]

I hate to be in that state of mind, where everything I do is dependent on me having to defend myself, but I don't really have to defend myself.

I am not here to judge others, nor condemn them, but there are people out there who love to judge and condemn people just to feel good about themselves, or have power over others.

That stuff isn't even of the spirit, it's of the flesh...

It's like children in the playground in the sandbox. I am not saying I am not guilty of fighting but the Spirit doesn't lead us to fighting, but to self-control.