Actually, I don't want to read something put together by AI - especially not concerning the faith (not constructed enough?)

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Hi there,

So look, I know that AI is a tool - I get that - but there is a big difference between reading verbal porridge (nutritious but slush) and reading the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is dynamic and charged, its not a style you just put on. Maybe people who have no other interest in scripture will get something from it, but how do we trust that AI will do anything with Salvation in mind? I don't think we can!

This isn't paranoia, I understand that AI is just making the best guess, from a wide range of alternatives, but "broad is the way that leads to destruction" (Jesus, Gospels, from memory). I see AI as taking the broad way as its foundation. Am I mistaken?

Anything can be evolved, but not anything can be believed.

What are your thoughts?
 

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Hi there,

So look, I know that AI is a tool - I get that - but there is a big difference between reading verbal porridge (nutritious but slush) and reading the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is dynamic and charged, its not a style you just put on. Maybe people who have no other interest in scripture will get something from it, but how do we trust that AI will do anything with Salvation in mind? I don't think we can!

This isn't paranoia, I understand that AI is just making the best guess, from a wide range of alternatives, but "broad is the way that leads to destruction" (Jesus, Gospels, from memory). I see AI as taking the broad way as its foundation. Am I mistaken?

Anything can be evolved, but not anything can be believed.

What are your thoughts?
IMO, AI is a very dangerous technology. As I've seen people use AI to write spiritually based text, I think it is insidiously false. AI has been shown to lie. I don't touch the stuff myself.

Much love!
 

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Hi there,

So look, I know that AI is a tool - I get that - but there is a big difference between reading verbal porridge (nutritious but slush) and reading the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is dynamic and charged, its not a style you just put on. Maybe people who have no other interest in scripture will get something from it, but how do we trust that AI will do anything with Salvation in mind? I don't think we can!

This isn't paranoia, I understand that AI is just making the best guess, from a wide range of alternatives, but "broad is the way that leads to destruction" (Jesus, Gospels, from memory). I see AI as taking the broad way as its foundation. Am I mistaken?

Anything can be evolved, but not anything can be believed.

What are your thoughts?
AI is always going to give the tech giants approved version any topic. If you want to use AI for bible questions, write a prompt like this - “Explain John 3:16 based on grammar only, do not consider any common beliefs or biblical commentary.”
 

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I don't know if anyone else gets this, but some AI generated images make me feel sick? Like they are of people, but there is something wrong with their emotional expression?
 
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I don't know if anyone else gets this, but some AI generated images make me feel sick? Like they are of people, but there is something wrong with their emotional expression?
What you're referring to sounds a lot like the Turing Test (except with images rather than verbal prompts).

It's pretty normal to feel unease at computer-generated responses. Alan Turing (who invented the computer) proposed that overcoming this hurdle was a measuring stick for computer development. Well... you can read the link as well as I can.
 

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Hi there,

So look, I know that AI is a tool - I get that - but there is a big difference between reading verbal porridge (nutritious but slush) and reading the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is dynamic and charged, its not a style you just put on. Maybe people who have no other interest in scripture will get something from it, but how do we trust that AI will do anything with Salvation in mind? I don't think we can!

This isn't paranoia, I understand that AI is just making the best guess, from a wide range of alternatives, but "broad is the way that leads to destruction" (Jesus, Gospels, from memory). I see AI as taking the broad way as its foundation. Am I mistaken?

Anything can be evolved, but not anything can be believed.

What are your thoughts?
Yes!

AI is simply the current (but quicker) version of "Survey Says!"

The problem is...it is all based on what so-called "experts" say, from papers and reports floating around in cyberspace--it's hearsay, based on mob-belief. Might as well pick a church and start worshiping the pastor. :IDK:Heaven forbid!

But you are correct--it's a tool--and a useful one. I have used it to consider colors to paint a room, remodel our fireplace...and I think I will see what image it can create for what our outdoor living space would be like if screened in. I would even say it might be good for examining the wording of a passage of scripture poorly translated and thus hard to understand. But--I wouldn't trust "it"--nor would I rely on "it" for things like the meaning of life, or the mind of God. As "it" is just as likely to point one in the wrong direction, as the right direction. If a "Hmmm" was not the response, I would strike "it's" word from consideration; and the best that is possible, might be "Hmmm, I never thought of it that way." But it still might not be correct.
 

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Hi there,

So look, I know that AI is a tool - I get that - but there is a big difference between reading verbal porridge (nutritious but slush) and reading the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is dynamic and charged, its not a style you just put on. Maybe people who have no other interest in scripture will get something from it, but how do we trust that AI will do anything with Salvation in mind? I don't think we can!

This isn't paranoia, I understand that AI is just making the best guess, from a wide range of alternatives, but "broad is the way that leads to destruction" (Jesus, Gospels, from memory). I see AI as taking the broad way as its foundation. Am I mistaken?

Anything can be evolved, but not anything can be believed.

What are your thoughts?
Amen. HATE IT!
 
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Amen. HATE IT!

I think it can sometimes be comparable to using a filter on your face on social media, but instead of it just cleaning up spelling and grammar it transforms their way of speaking, making them appear more intelligent than they actually are. People were getting addicted to the filters that made them look outwardly beautiful and it seems others are getting addicted to how AI makes them appear much more intelligent than what they are. Not necessarily a bad thing mind you, who wants to look less intelligent than they are but its like talking to two different people when those filters are not in use.

You can often tell its AI with the layout of the posts, or those long dashes, unless they are removed. And people who are highly emotional and you can sense that in their normal posts along with their biases are hidden, but remove the filter and let them speak themselves its not hidden anymore.

But it was like wow, "overnight there was a bunch of smart people" clfh
 
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I think it can sometimes be comparable to using a filter on your face on social media, but instead of it just cleaning up spelling and grammar it transforms their way of speaking, making them appear more intelligent than they actually are. People were getting addicted to the filters that made them look outwardly beautiful and it seems others are getting addicted to how AI makes them appear much more intelligent than what they are. Not necessarily a bad thing mind you, who wants to look less intelligent than they are but its like talking to two different people when those filters are not in use.

You can often tell its AI with the layout of the posts, or those long dashes, unless they are removed. And people who are highly emotional and you can sense that in their normal posts along with their biases are hidden, but remove the filter and let them speak themselves its not hidden anymore.

But it was like wow, "overnight there was a bunch of smart people"
Lol yes... It's a really bad way to go- not smart at all. ..Stupidity at it's highest level. Replacing the Holy Spirit of God with big tech? what on earth is wrong with that thinking?!! Asking google to teach you the scriptures? People, google is not your friend!!
I want nothing to do with it, and I will not reply to anyone who posts using it to me.
UGH.
I want to go backwards..
 
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Lol yes... It's a really bad way to go- not smart at all. ..Stupidity at it's highest level. Replacing the Holy Spirit of God with big tech? what on earth is wrong with that thinking?!! Asking google to teach you the scriptures? People, google is not your friend!!
I want nothing to do with it, and I will not reply to anyone who posts using it to me.
UGH.
I want to go backwards..

A decent time to use it (if at all) is on some of these over the top political threads, because you just plug in the topic and it will pull up most of the current facts surrounding the situation (links included). So when you decide to post on one of those, you enter saying, " I asked AI, and this is what it said". I tried that, and no one responded trying to fight with me over the things said (as they typically might) because you did not (admittedly) post from your own self. So really, what is anyone going to say to you? AI just laid it all out, which pretty much shields you from all conflict and outrage clfh

Well, unless I posted AI to you (for example) because you might express your outrage at me for using AI with you haha

I hear ya though
 

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A decent time to use it (if at all) is on some of these over the top political threads, because you just plug in the topic and it will pull up most of the current facts surrounding the situation (links included). So when you decide to post on one of those, you enter saying, " I asked AI, and this is what it said". I tried that, and no one responded trying to fight with me over the things said (as they typically might) because you did not (admittedly) post from your own self. So really, what is anyone going to say to you? AI just laid it all out, which pretty much shields you from all conflict and outrage clfh

Well, unless I posted AI to you (for example) because you might express your outrage at me for using AI with you haha

I hear ya though
Well, you get called an antichrist on here just for voting, so politics and AI hahaha what a pair! Their hair probably started fire when you posted that, so maybe their heads were in their sinks which was the reason for no replies. :10ooten
 
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Well, you get called an antichrist on here just for voting, so politics and AI hahaha what a pair! Their hair probably started fire when you posted that, so maybe their heads were in their sinks which was the reason for no replies. :10ooten

And its not just there, You can quote Jesus own words be called a demonic round here, just don't take it to heart. Jesus understands
 
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And its not just there, You can quote Jesus own words be called a demonic round here, just don't take it to heart. Jesus understands
oh that's too easy-- just say- we should "obey" Him. :eek:
 

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In the flesh, people make up their own minds about everything in this life.
AI is not alive, has no spirit.
Maybe AI people tend to view it like man creating a machine in his image, but it can never be that.
It is more like an intelligent web search tool in the ways the average person interacts with AI today.
 

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I know someone who developed an image in their mind, the way AI develops images - but the difference for them, was that it didn't make them sick?