That is not true in Australia. Australia's "First People nations" still hold to the Serpent Dream time stories from long ago.
Contending with the devil
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That is not true in Australia. Australia's "First People nations" still hold to the Serpent Dream time stories from long ago.
Hiddenthings
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It’s about stripping away the mythology that has been layered onto Christianity. After over 2,000 years of human imagination reshaping the true Gospel, the original message has become unrecognizable.
So what do the ”devil and the demons aren’t real“ crowd have?
They have an unhealthy interest in them.
The Bible isn’t obsessed with them. Those who have made it their dogma are.
Christadelphians, as I’ve documented, aren’t the only group that does. Neither they nor any of the other groups / individuals who are obsessed with them can cease talking about them, even while denying their existence.
Hiddenthings
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These personal attacks only reveal that you're unable to refute the truth that has already been presented. You started this Matthias and God has finished it through me. His truth is too strong for you and your imaginations.
The devil will accuse you of being what he really is - a rebellious spirit.
The devil and the demons have been defeated by Messiah but they aren’t yet a spent force. Defend yourself against them by using the armor of God.
The devil and the demons have been defeated by Messiah but they aren’t yet a spent force. Defend yourself against them by using the armor of God.
Hiddenthings
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It isn’t God, it isn’t the Messiah, and it isn’t the apostles who are telling us that the devil and the demons aren’t real. None of them give the devil and the demons the time and attention that the deniers of their reality do.
Hiddenthings
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Hiddenthings
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It depends on how we understand the nature of the Adversary. If, as Paul does, we liken Satan to the Pharisees, then yes, they possessed a sound and detailed knowledge of theology. However, Christ’s ministry consistently exposed their spiritual blindness. Though they knew the letter of the Law, they failed to grasp its deeper, weightier matters, justice, mercy, and faithfulness. Ultimately, as Jesus taught, people would recognize them by their fruits.
In fact, nowhere in the Gospels do we see Christ encountering a fallen angel, nor does he offer any direct teaching or insight about such a being. However, he is continually engaged in conflict with the dark spiritual forces operating in high places, constantly confronting and overcoming their schemes.
Hiddenthings
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I suppose it works for some, just like getting their theology from bumper stickers.
soberxp
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Reminds me of the story of Warhammer 40k, where human evil thoughts create demonic presence in subspace.
Hiddenthings
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Hiddenthings
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Support for Mr. Wilde and those who insist “the devil and the demons aren’t real”.
When the ”devil and the demons aren’t real” advocates own that they are their own devils and have driven themselves out of their Edens, accept it. When they try to drag you down with them, reject it.
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