If Satan is the devil, is God responsible for all evil?

[Hiddenthings]

No that is the bible.

REad Gen. 3, Isaiah 1412-14, Ez. 28:12-18 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Can you explain the connection between an speaking animal, the King of Tyre and the King of Babylon?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Can you explain the connection between an speaking animal, the King of Tyre and the King of Babylon?

Demons often inhabited animals. At the time

When Ezekiel write tha tpassage there was not a king of Tyre, only a prince. And the desciption shows it was Satan.

As for Babylon yo uneed to specify which reference you are speaking of.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Demons often inhabited animals. At the time

Righteo Ronald
I guess, 1st Century they changed to throwing people in prison and they don't do that anymore?

 

[Hiddenthings]

The deception is so serious right minded people can't even perceive how illogical they are.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Righteo Ronald
I guess, 1st Century they changed to throwing people in prison and they don't do that anymore?

Well there is specific requirements for widespread demonic activity based on the study of Scripture. But I knoe of missionaries in countries where animism and voodoo et. al. hold sway in large populations and animals being possessed is not uncommon.

 

[Hiddenthings]

Well there is specific requirements for widespread demonic activity based on the study of Scripture. But I knoe of missionaries in countries where animism and voodoo et. al. hold sway in large populations and animals being possessed is not uncommon.

The mind is a powerful member!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The mind is a powerful member!

And when yielded to demons- it becomes a destructive force.

 

[Hiddenthings]

And when yielded to demons- it becomes a destructive force.

By itself is sufficient Ronald

Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart (mind) is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"

Only God knows it full potential!

 

[Jack]

"If Satan is the devil, is God responsible for all evil?"

Be careful what you say about God. He answers to NOBODY!

 

[Hiddenthings]

"If Satan is the devil, is God responsible for all evil?"

Be careful what you say about God. He answers to NOBODY!

Jack, you unknowingly highlight a major issue with the whole fallen angel story!

 

[Jack]

Jack, you unknowingly highlight a major issue with the whole fallen angel story!

What does that have to do with speaking against God?

 

[Hiddenthings]

What does that have to do with speaking against God?

Evil comes from human nature
If someone believes an Angel with God's Nature can sin...

Well you're a smart guy work it out!

 

[Jack]

Evil comes from human nature
If someone believes an Angel with God's Nature can sin...

What angel would that be????

Well you're a smart guy work it out!

Please elaborate!

 

[Hiddenthings]

What angel would that be????

Precisely

Please elaborate!

If a person believes in a fallen angel whose nature is that angel?

 

[Jack]

Precisely

If a person believes in a fallen angel whose nature is that angel?

I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about!

 

[Hiddenthings]

I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about!

You must be right

 

[Jack]

You must be right

I know what Jesus said. He's always right.

Jesus is God and Hell Fire is FOREVER!

 

[Hiddenthings]

I know what Jesus said. He's always right.

Jesus is God and Hell Fire is FOREVER!

You must be right

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Many Christians equate Satan with the Devil – and insist they are one and the same. But let’s assume for the sake of argument that this identification is correct:
That Satan, the Accuser, is also the Devil – the personification of evil.

Then the question becomes unavoidable:
If Satan is the Devil – and God is sovereign over Satan – isn’t God ultimately responsible for all the evil Satan causes?

You can’t have it both ways. Either:

God permits Satan’s actions and uses him as a tool (as seen in Job 1),
or

God is opposed to Satan but somehow powerless to stop him, which undermines divine sovereignty.


Most orthodox positions choose the first: God is in control, and Satan operates only with divine permission. But that leads to an unsettling conclusion:

> All suffering, deception, war, and religious strife are part of a divine script – a cosmic drama where Satan plays his role under God’s direction.



If that’s the case, then:

Human suffering becomes a prewritten element of God’s plan.

Religious wars, mass delusion, genocide, and even the “end times” become part of a divine performance.

Human dignity, free will, and the meaning of moral choice are reduced to scripted reactions in a play authored by God.


Is this really consistent with the God revealed by Jesus?

A God who:

Weeps with the brokenhearted (John 11:35)

Wishes that none should perish (2 Peter 3:9)

Warns against religious pride (Matthew 23)

Calls us to love even our enemies (Matthew 5:44)


How can such a God deliberately authorize a supernatural evil force to mislead, destroy, and cause misery?

This theological trap stems largely from a medieval synthesis of biblical and extra-biblical tradition. In the Hebrew Bible, haSatan is not the devil – he is God’s prosecutor, not his opponent. The devil, as a figure of ultimate rebellion and chaos, developed later and was merged with Satan.

If we don’t distinguish between Satan (God’s tester) and the Devil (false god, deceiver), we end up with a theology where:

Evil is part of God’s plan.

People are judged for roles they were assigned.

And the Gospel becomes a rescue from God himself – not from sin or injustice.


The dignity of human life suffers under this view.
It becomes a divine chess game, where our pain serves some “higher purpose” we can never challenge – because Satan is doing God’s will.

So I ask:
If Satan is the Devil, and God is his master, how do we avoid making God the author of all evil?

And if we can’t… isn’t it time to revisit the assumptions?

It's like gravity bro !
Reality is !
and this world is full of deceptions and delusions in fact ! that's the Key issue !
Man has been inflicted with the Stain of original Sin ! now you have to truly become born again, or one is Lost to this world !

I one makes something like a Car say, look at all of the good that came from such, but one could say on the other hand that is seen as could be bad or is bad. So their is good and bad within everything maybe ? The Computa era, you name it.

Blaming God is total BS !
All issues are Man being a dipstick. because such has not matured !

One can learn from your own mistakes and others, so mistakes can build you up as a person if one is responcible and such a one takes charge of the facts ? Like one working for me on the job and if one comes to me and explaines the problem why they messed up, I am all fine with that ! but if such a one tryes to hide from their idiot mistakes, well then I am not impressed at all, with them !

 

[Ronald Nolette]

By itself is sufficient Ronald

Jeremiah 17:9 "The heart (mind) is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"

Only God knows it full potential!

Yes the natural man is wicked, but when controlled and occupied by a demon, becomes a supernatural destructive force.