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What do you mean by "works"?

Things you do, actions, obedience etc

The greek word ergon means:

Work, deed, action, task, labor

2041 érgon (from ergō, "to work, accomplish") – a work or worker who accomplishes something. 2041 /érgon ("work") is a deed (action) that carries out (completes) an inner desire (intension, purpose).
 

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Things you do, actions, obedience etc

The greek word ergon means:

Work, deed, action, task, labor

2041 érgon (from ergō, "to work, accomplish") – a work or worker who accomplishes something. 2041 /érgon ("work") is a deed (action) that carries out (completes) an inner desire (intension, purpose).
Yep, I understand which is what I tried to made clear to the one I responded to. Basically, anything and everything we do is a "work" due to our physical nature.
 

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Yep, I understand which is what I tried to made clear to the one I responded to. Basically, anything and everything we do is a "work" due to our physical nature.
Spiritual nature as well
 

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Yep, I understand which is what I tried to made clear to the one I responded to. Basically, anything and everything we do is a "work" due to our physical nature.
[Rom 9:11 KJV] 11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

Works is doing good or evil as seen in the verse above

[Eph 2:9 KJV] 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Faith is not a work

You cant boast by just believing something that you have not done
 

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Spiritual nature as well
[Rom 9:11 KJV] 11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

Works is doing good or evil as seen in the verse above

[Eph 2:9 KJV] 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Faith is not a work

You cant boast by just believing something that you have not done
 

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[Rom 9:11 KJV] 11 (For [the children] being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

Works is doing good or evil as seen in the verse above

[Eph 2:9 KJV] 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Faith is not a work

You cant boast by just believing something that you have not done
Faith/Believing is a work, for believing is something you do, which springs from faith. Now the question is whether you do that work as a natural man from the flesh, or a saved spiritual man by the power of grace and the spirit.
 

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This is the gospel by which we are saved.

1 Corinthians 15 contains Paul's gospel:

[1Co 15:1, 3-4 KJV] 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; ... 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

We are all sinners who cannot save ourselves.

See Romans 3:23 Titus 3:5 Romans 5:6

[Rom 3:23 KJV] 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

[Tit 3:5 KJV] 5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

[Rom 5:6 KJV] 6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

Christ died for our sins; He was our substitute; He paid the full penalty and debt for our sin by his blood sacrifice.

See 2 Corinthians 5:21 Romans 3:24 Romans 3:25 Romans 3:26

[2Co 5:21 KJV] 21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

[Rom 3:24-26 KJV] 24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

He was buried.

He rose again for our justification (to declare us righteous) and forgiveness of all our sin. He gives us His righteousness and eternal life.

See Romans 4:25 Ephesians 1:7 Romans 4:22 Romans 4:23 Romans 4:24 1 Corinthians 1:30

[Rom 4:22-25 KJV] 22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. 23 Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; 24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; 25 Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.

[Eph 1:7 KJV] 7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

[1Co 1:30 KJV] 30 But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

All we have to do is believe the gospel.

See Romans 4:5 1 Corinthians 1:21 Ephesians 1:13

[Rom 4:5 KJV] 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

[1Co 1:21 KJV] 21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.

[Eph 1:13 KJV] 13 In whom ye also [trusted], after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Believing is being persuaded that something is true.

See Romans 4:20-22

[Rom 4:20-22 KJV] 20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; 21 And being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. 22 And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.

The moment you believe you have eternal life.

Titus 1:1 Titus 1:2 Titus 3:7

[Tit 1:1-2 KJV] 1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness; 2 In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

[Tit 3:7 KJV] 7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Trust the gospel of your salvation. Place your faith in Jesus Christ, in his blood, in his death and his resurrection.
not only was it pauls gospel , IT WAS JESUS GOSPEL and every other apostels gospel .
THEY ALL PREACHED IT . EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM . YES , EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM .
thanks for the lovely reminder , however , of what the gospel is .
SO on that note , WHY THE HECK are so many sitting at the table of inclusivism
and of interfaith , WHICH I DANG SURE KNOW IS OF ANTI CHRST .
as it DARN sure seems to overlook the fact that all them other religoins ARE FALSE
and THAT THEY MUST REPENT TO BELEIVE ON , TO CONFESS JESUS .
SO , who is sitting at that table . cause if one is and or supports any who is
GUESS WHO THEY IN LINE and in league with , SATAN AND ANTI CHRIST . Thanks for the reminder .
HOPE YA HEED MINE TOO .
 

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Faith/Believing is a work, for believing is something you do, which springs from faith. Now the question is whether you do that work as a natural man from the flesh, or a saved spiritual man by the power of grace and the spirit.
Look at this verse..................[Rom 4:5 KJV] 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.....................God makes a distinction between works and faith............faith is not considered to be a work to God

[1Co 2:14-15 KJV] 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.......this verse is talking about a saved believer being a natural man..........the natural man cant know spiritual things..................this is not talking about being saved by believing the gospel
 

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Trust the gospel of your salvation. Place your faith in Jesus Christ, in his blood, in his death and his resurrection.

‘Here is the way a person is saved according to the scriptures.


that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9


Confessing Jesus as LORD and believing God raised Him from the dead is how we obey the Gospel command to repent.
 

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not only was it pauls gospel , IT WAS JESUS GOSPEL and every other apostels gospel .
THEY ALL PREACHED IT . EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM . YES , EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM .
thanks for the lovely reminder , however , of what the gospel is .
SO on that note , WHY THE HECK are so many sitting at the table of inclusivism
and of interfaith , WHICH I DANG SURE KNOW IS OF ANTI CHRST .
as it DARN sure seems to overlook the fact that all them other religoins ARE FALSE
and THAT THEY MUST REPENT TO BELEIVE ON , TO CONFESS JESUS .
SO , who is sitting at that table . cause if one is and or supports any who is
GUESS WHO THEY IN LINE and in league with , SATAN AND ANTI CHRIST . Thanks for the reminder .
HOPE YA HEED MINE TOO .

‘Here is the Gospel that Jesus and the Apostles preached.


“Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38
 

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Things you do, actions, obedience etc

The greek word ergon means:

Work, deed, action, task, labor

2041 érgon (from ergō, "to work, accomplish") – a work or worker who accomplishes something. 2041 /érgon ("work") is a deed (action) that carries out (completes) an inner desire (intension, purpose).


only those who obey the Gospel are saved.
 

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‘Here is the way a person is saved according to the scriptures.


that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. Romans 10:9


Confessing Jesus as LORD and believing God raised Him from the dead is how we obey the Gospel command to repent.
[Mat 10:32 KJV] 32 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

Israel had to confess Jesus was Christ the Son of God

Jesus also died for our sins
 

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Look at this verse..................[Rom 4:5 KJV] 5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.....................God makes a distinction between works and faith............faith is not considered to be a work to God

[1Co 2:14-15 KJV] 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.......this verse is talking about a saved believer being a natural man..........the natural man cant know spiritual things..................this is not talking about being saved by believing the gospel
Yet believing is a work, its something you do. The distinction is only valid when you dont turn believing into a condition for salvation, the contrast is valid when believing is by grace and is a evidence of salvation.
 

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Only those God saves obeys the Gospel.

‘Only those who obey the Gospel will be saved.

Your backwards false Gospel is unbiblical.

Eternal salvation is only for those who obey Him.


And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.
Hebrews 5:9
 
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‘Here is the Gospel that Jesus and the Apostles preached.


“Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38
Which means they darn sure would have confessed him by mouth and beleived He was ressurected
just like paul taught .
In fact i challenge you to see what peter tells them . THEY all preached ALSO HIS ressurection .
We cant take one line from one area and try and make it seem like somehow they preached different gospels .
Read the BIBLE FOR YOU . i have long seen they preached the same gospel .
Men are full of dung and doo doo with their doctrines .
LET us bible up for our own selves .
 
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Yet believing is a work, its something you do. The distinction is only valid when you dont turn believing into a condition for salvation, the contrast is valid when believing is by grace and is a evidence of salvation.
I have nothing to say
thanks
 

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‘Only those who obey the Gospel will be saved.

Your backwards false Gospel is unbiblical.

Eternal salvation is only for those who obey Him.


And having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obey Him.
Hebrews 5:9
Who OBEY HIM . your correct
but let us not forget It means OBEY HIM .
He had lots of words He spoke .
IF we claim to BELIEVE ON HIM , WE WOULD HAVE BELEIVED HIM AND OBEYED HIM .
We cant just use the name of JESUS and yet walk contrary to THE THINGS HE TAUGHT . that AINT OBEDIANCE
ITS LIP service .
One would have thought this could have been so simple. IT IS . ITS MEN that complicated everything .
WILL PEOPLE JUST PLEASE READ and ENJOY the BIBLE for themselves . Men are full of dung doctrines
and have done major and much damage WITH their doctrines . THE BIBLE aint hard to read .
OPEN it , i promise its pages are not too heavy for us to turn . WE can read it JUST FINE for ourselves .
 
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‘Here is the Gospel that Jesus and the Apostles preached.


“Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38
Thats not the Gospel. See 1 Cor 15:1-4 to see what they preached as the Gospel, the Gospel tells of what Christ has done and accomplished to save His People from their sins.