Does Daniel 7:21–22 Support Amillennialism or Premillennialism?

[grafted branch]

Therefore, the saints that refuse to worship it have no say so in the matter in regards to their fates---being made war against, and being overcome by the beast, the fact verse 7 says these things were given him.

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

In this verse we see the dragon can be overcome by believers who rely on the blood of the Lamb and their testimony.

Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Here we are clearly told the dragon gives the beast his power, seat, and authority.



How is it possible that the beast can overcome a believer whose testimony is the blood of the Lamb? The dragon can’t give the beast more power than it had in the first place, and since the dragon could be overcome by the blood of the Lamb it stands to reason the beast can be overcome by the blood of the Lamb also.

 

[Davidpt]

It’s impossible that Daniel 7:21 happened after the cross because the horn was Herod. Herod tried to kill Jesus, killed John the Baptist and persecuted the rest of God’s people.

• Herod the Great persecuted the righteous — e.g., the Massacre of the Innocents (Matthew 2:16), targeting potential rivals to his throne, including the infant Jesus.
• He was a blasphemous and politically manipulative ruler, known for building pagan temples and cooperating with Rome.
• He ruled during a crucial transitional time — from the Old Covenant to the New, just before Jesus’ ministry.

The kingdom has been taken from that wicked system and will never go back under the dominion of that system.

How am I wrong on this?

Here's one way you are clearly, undeniably, no doubt about it, wrong about this. What you brought up couldn't possibly explain the following which all takes place after the time of the cross during the 42 month reign of the beast, thus Daniel 7:21, thus great tribulation.


Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

For one thing there was no blood of the Lamb prior to the cross. We at least know from that clue that this 'great tribulation' in question is involving an era of time post that of the time of the cross. For another thing, only something on a global scale could possibly explain 'a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people'.

You need to quit thinking 'local only' all the time. Those days are gone a long long long time ago. Things have switched to global. Global is what matters now, not just local only.

It is ludicrous, IMO, in the event you or someone else argues that Daniel 7:21 does not involve 'great tribulation'. Of course it does. Anyone not interpreting Scripture in a vacuum like you and others like you are, know good and well Daniel 7:21 involves prevailing against the saints on a global scale. After all, something has to explain a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, where verse 14 then tells us these came out of great tribulation.

Believe what you will, I can't stop you. If you want to be on the wrong side of truth in this case then be on the wrong side of truth. That is your choice. Mainly meaning in regards to when and what all Daniel 7:21 is involving. Once again 'local only' does not explain Daniel 7:21, but 'global' does.

 

[Davidpt]

Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

In this verse we see the dragon can be overcome by believers who rely on the blood of the Lamb and their testimony.

Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Here we are clearly told the dragon gives the beast his power, seat, and authority.



How is it possible that the beast can overcome a believer whose testimony is the blood of the Lamb? The dragon can’t give the beast more power than it had in the first place, and since the dragon could be overcome by the blood of the Lamb it stands to reason the beast can be overcome by the blood of the Lamb also.

You are not looking at some of these things correctly. Being overcome by the beast and then overcoming it by the blood of the Lamb go hand in hand, rather than it's either one or the other, not both. Except it is both in this case. You're failing to factor in perspective here. Per the beast's perspective it has gotten the victory each time it silences anyone opposed to it. From the perspective of the ones being silenced, they are the ones that get the ultimate victory, since they are not silenced forever and will one day rise from the dead again and live in unspeakable joy for forever and ever, because they have overcome it by the blood of the Lamb.

 

[grafted branch]

You are not looking at some of these things correctly. Being overcome by the beast and then overcoming it by the blood of the Lamb go hand in hand, rather than it's either one or the other, not both. Except it is both in this case. You're failing to factor in perspective here. Per the beast's perspective it has gotten the victory each time it silences anyone opposed to it. From the perspective of the ones being silenced, they are the ones that get the ultimate victory, since they are not silenced forever and will one day rise from the dead again and live in unspeakable joy for forever and ever, because they have overcome it by the blood of the Lamb.

It appears you’re putting forth the idea that from the beasts perspective he overcomes the saints and at the same time from the saints perspective they overcome the beast. If that is your position, then can you show me other examples where we are not to read the Bible exclusively from a believers perspective but we should include an unbelievers perspective?

For example the parable of the ten virgins in Matthew 25:1-13, should we look at this and interpret it as the wise virgins were wise from an unbelievers perspective? And the foolish virgins were foolish from an unbelievers perspective? Vice versa from a believers perspective?

I can’t find where anyone interprets scripture this way anywhere else, that would make Revelation 13 the only place this method of interpretation is use, unless you can show other examples.

 

[Marty fox]

The Op Continued...

So the only real question left is: Where in Revelation 20 does Daniel 7:21–22 belong?

The 3 Options for Daniel 7:21 (Only One Works)

Here are the only three possible placements of Daniel 7:21 (the war with the saints):

1) Daniel 7:21 → Revelation 20:4 (persecution before the reign)

2) Daniel 7:21 + Revelation 20:4 (persecution and reign happening at the same time)

3) Revelation 20:4 → Daniel 7:21 (reign happens before the persecution — during Satan’s little season)


Let’s test them.

Option 2: Parallel During the Thousand Years

This doesn’t work for either Amils or Premils.

Amil view: Satan and the beast are bound during the thousand years. How can the beast be waging war on the saints during that time?

Premil view: The beast is in the lake of fire during the thousand years. Again, he can’t be making war if he’s already judged.

So Option 2 fails for both camps.

Option 3: Persecution Happens After the Reign

This would place Daniel 7:21 after Daniel 7:22 — but Daniel 7:22 clearly ends the persecution:

“...the same horn made war with the saints and prevailed against them; until the Ancient of Days came...”​

You can’t place 7:21 after 7:22. That would violate the plain sequence of the text.

Option 1: War Before the Reign

This is the only view that works:

• 
  Daniel 7:21 — persecution of saints
  Daniel 7:22 — judgment given to saints, kingdom possessed
• Revelation 20:4 — saints reign with Christ for 1000 years

This view:

Honors the sequence in Daniel 7

Fits perfectly with Revelation 20:4

Doesn’t require contradictions about Satan or the beast’s location/status

The Bottom Line

If Daniel 7:22 = Revelation 20:4 (and the evidence strongly points that way), then Daniel 7:21 must come before Revelation 20:4.

That creates a serious problem for Amillennialism.

Because Amils claim Revelation 20:4 refers to the beginning of the church age, around 2,000 years ago.

So they must now explain:

What “coming of the Ancient of Days” happened 2,000 years ago to fulfill Daniel 7:22?

When did the persecution of Daniel 7:21 happen before that?

How is this consistent with Satan and the beast being bound during the 1,000 years?

Conclusion

Once you link Daniel 7:22 with Revelation 20:4 — which is the most natural reading — you’re forced to place Daniel 7:21 before it.

That timeline fits cleanly in Premillennialism.

But for Amillennialism, it breaks everything.

And unless someone can convincingly disconnect Daniel 7:22 from Revelation 20:4 (and explain why the same rare phrase shows up in both), the Premil view stands on stronger textual and chronological ground.

How about Revelation 20:4 is the faithful after the cross who prevailed over the beast, Daniel 7:21-22 is the faithful before the cross the ones who prevailed during the time of the Maccabees.

 

[Davidpt]

How about Revelation 20:4 is the faithful after the cross who prevailed over the beast, Daniel 7:21-22 is the faithful before the cross the ones who prevailed during the time of the Maccabees.

One problem right off the bat with that proposal is that it ignores verse 13 and 14. Everything in Daniel 7, as far as I can tell, is involving an era of time post that of the fulfillment of verse 13 and 14 which was fulfilled during His ascension 2000 years ago.

It ignores that everything recorded in Daniel 7 is centered around verse 13 and 14. I can see you holding a view like you proposed. But @WPM as well? Surprisingly so, otherwise why did he like a post that doesn't even involve verse 13 and 14 directly or indirectly?

How can anything recorded in ch 7 involving the 4th beast and the little horn be meaning before verse 13 and 14 are fulfilled, rather than after? Clearly, everything recorded in ch 7 pertaining to the 4th beast and little horn is meaning post His ascension through His return and what happens after He returns. But let's make some or all of it about the days of A4E instead. How about this instead? Let's make none of it about the days that preceded the fulfilling of verse 13 and 14.

There is not even anything recorded in Daniel 7 involving the time of the cross, let alone prior to the time of the cross. Granted, His ascension was soon after the cross. Yet, that is beside the point. There is nothing recorded in ch 7 having to do with the time of the cross nor before that time. When verse 13 and 14 was initially fulfilled 2000 years ago, the time of the cross was already in the past at that point.

Therefore, I reject your proposal concerning verse 21 and 22. But at least you have someone that doesn't reject it, actually likes it, meaning @WPM in this case since he made it crystal clear to the readers he sees your proposal as likely rather than unlikely, otherwise why did he like it to begin with? Who cares that your proposal ignores verse 13 and 14, right? Apparently, you and @WPM don't care.

 

[Douggg]

Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

For one thing there was no blood of the Lamb prior to the cross. We at least know from that clue that this 'great tribulation' in question is involving an era of time post that of the time of the cross. For another thing, only something on a global scale could possibly explain 'a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people'.

good rationale.

 

[WPM]

good rationale.

Hello. The cross happened 2000 years ago. The redeemed dead have been populating heaven during that time.

 

[WPM]

Therefore, I reject your proposal concerning verse 21 and 22.

And? Who cares?

 

[IndianaRob]

Your response has absolutely nothing to do with Daniel 7:21-22 that's the topic of the discussion

Ok. You’re not even going to explain why it has nothing to do with Daniel 7:21-22?

 

[Marty fox]

One problem right off the bat with that proposal is that it ignores verse 13 and 14. Everything in Daniel 7, as far as I can tell, is involving an era of time post that of the fulfillment of verse 13 and 14 which was fulfilled during His ascension 2000 years ago.

It ignores that everything recorded in Daniel 7 is centered around verse 13 and 14. I can see you holding a view like you proposed. But @WPM as well? Surprisingly so, otherwise why did he like a post that doesn't even involve verse 13 and 14 directly or indirectly?

How can anything recorded in ch 7 involving the 4th beast and the little horn be meaning before verse 13 and 14 are fulfilled, rather than after? Clearly, everything recorded in ch 7 pertaining to the 4th beast and little horn is meaning post His ascension through His return and what happens after He returns. But let's make some or all of it about the days of A4E instead. How about this instead? Let's make none of it about the days that preceded the fulfilling of verse 13 and 14.

There is not even anything recorded in Daniel 7 involving the time of the cross, let alone prior to the time of the cross. Granted, His ascension was soon after the cross. Yet, that is beside the point. There is nothing recorded in ch 7 having to do with the time of the cross nor before that time. When verse 13 and 14 was initially fulfilled 2000 years ago, the time of the cross was already in the past at that point.

Therefore, I reject your proposal concerning verse 21 and 22. But at least you have someone that doesn't reject it, actually likes it, meaning @WPM in this case since he made it crystal clear to the readers he sees your proposal as likely rather than unlikely, otherwise why did he like it to begin with? Who cares that your proposal ignores verse 13 and 14, right? Apparently, you and @WPM don't care.

My proposal didn't mention verses 13-14 because you didn't ask about verses 13-14.

Why not think about why verses 13-14 are slid into chapter 7 at that moment instead? It makes no sense if you're trying to read it in chronological order. The reason is because verses 13-14 are a message of hope to the readers who lived through those times knowing that they will prevail and that God would help them and the beast will be judged.

If you were a Jews living through the time of the Maccabees, who would you think it was about?

 

[IndianaRob]

Here's one way you are clearly, undeniably, no doubt about it, wrong about this. What you brought up couldn't possibly explain the following which all takes place after the time of the cross during the 42 month reign of the beast, thus Daniel 7:21, thus great tribulation.


Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Revelation 7:14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

For one thing there was no blood of the Lamb prior to the cross. We at least know from that clue that this 'great tribulation' in question is involving an era of time post that of the time of the cross. For another thing, only something on a global scale could possibly explain 'a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people'.

You need to quit thinking 'local only' all the time. Those days are gone a long long long time ago. Things have switched to global. Global is what matters now, not just local only.

It is ludicrous, IMO, in the event you or someone else argues that Daniel 7:21 does not involve 'great tribulation'. Of course it does. Anyone not interpreting Scripture in a vacuum like you and others like you are, know good and well Daniel 7:21 involves prevailing against the saints on a global scale. After all, something has to explain a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, where verse 14 then tells us these came out of great tribulation.

Believe what you will, I can't stop you. If you want to be on the wrong side of truth in this case then be on the wrong side of truth. That is your choice. Mainly meaning in regards to when and what all Daniel 7:21 is involving. Once again 'local only' does not explain Daniel 7:21, but 'global' does.

I’ll just say the common belief is that the ministry of Jesus was 3.5 years or time, times and half time or 42 months.

Maybe Herod the Great wasn’t the horn, it’s more likely his son Herod Antipas.

I honestly don’t understand how a Christian reads 3.5 years anywhere in the Bible and their mind doesn’t automatically go to Jesus.

Focus on Jesus friend. Almost everything in the Bible is centered on Him. “Lo I come, in the VOLUME OF THE BOOK, it’s written of ME.

 

[Davidpt]

And? Who cares?

Apparently, anyone on the wrong side of the truth in this case, they obviously don't care. But who cares if someone on the wrong side of the truth in this case doesn't care? I certainly don't care. Keeping in mind I'm meaning in regards to verse 21 and 22 in Daniel 7, that neither of those verses can precede the fulfillment of verse 13 and 14. Even if verses 21-22 can't support Premil like I have been insisting, it still doesn't change anything. It still doesn't mean verse 21 nor verse 22 can precede the fulfilling of verse 13 and 14. The same way verse 13 and 14 involve the NT church era, the same is true in regards to verse 21 and 22. Though, in my view verse 22 looks beyond the NT church age once the Ancient of days comes and puts an end to the persecution of the saints in verse 21. As in there will never be any saints persecuted and killed ever again once verse 22 has been fulfilled. The days of A4E did not involve the NT church era.

 

[Davidpt]

I’ll just say the common belief is that the ministry of Jesus was 3.5 years or time, times and half time or 42 months.

Maybe Herod the Great wasn’t the horn, it’s more likely his son Herod Antipas.

I honestly don’t understand how a Christian reads 3.5 years anywhere in the Bible and their mind doesn’t automatically go to Jesus.

Focus on Jesus friend. Almost everything in the Bible is centered on Him. “Lo I come, in the VOLUME OF THE BOOK, it’s written of ME.

Some of it does apply to Jesus, meaning the first half but not the 2nd half as well.

In Daniel 9:27, up unto the following involves the first half, involves Jesus---and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. But that's only half of the week. The remainder of the week is meaning the following and can't be applied to Christ since it would be blasphemy to do so--and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[IndianaRob]

Some of it does apply to Jesus, meaning the first half but not the 2nd half as well.

In Daniel 9:27, up unto the following involves the first half, involves Jesus---and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. But that's only half of the week. The remainder of the week is meaning the following and can't be applied to Christ since it would be blasphemy to do so--and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

In the midst of the week doesn’t mean the middle. If I’m in the midst of a fog that means I’m in the fog, it’s not saying I’m in the middle of the fog.

You’ll never understand the 70 weeks if you change the weeks into weeks of years. Why don’t you just take the Bible for what it says? Why do you have change what’s plainly written?

Look, Jesus entered Jerusalem on Palm Sunday and exactly 7 days later (1 literal week) he confirmed the covenant and ended the sacrificial system.

You have bought into a HUGE lie believing the 70 weeks of years stuff. You want to know the truth don’t you? You can’t arrive at the truth by CHANGING the meaning of words.

If God would’ve meant 70 weeks of years then he would’ve said that.

Exactly 7 literal weeks (49 days) later ended the old covenant and the 50th day, was Pentecost.

About 62 weeks before the cross was when the earthly ministry of Jesus started.

Are you going to tell me that’s a coincidence?

I just don’t understand how anyone who sees what I just told you can possibly hold on to the weeks of years heresy.

 

[Truth7t7]

In the midst of the week doesn’t mean the middle. If I’m in the midst of a fog that means I’m in the fog, it’s not saying I’m in the middle of the fog.

You’ll never understand the 70 weeks if you change the weeks into weeks of years. Why don’t you just take the Bible for what it says? Why do you have change what’s plainly written?

Look, Jesus entered Jerusalem on Palm Sunday and exactly 7 days later (1 literal week) he confirmed the covenant and ended the sacrificial system.

You have bought into a HUGE lie believing the 70 weeks of years stuff. You want to know the truth don’t you? You can’t arrive at the truth by CHANGING the meaning of words.

If God would’ve meant 70 weeks of years then he would’ve said that.

Exactly 7 literal weeks (49 days) later ended the old covenant and the 50th day, was Pentecost.

About 62 weeks before the cross was when the earthly ministry of Jesus started.

Are you going to tell me that’s a coincidence?

I just don’t understand how anyone who sees what I just told you can possibly hold on to the weeks of years heresy.

Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal "Future" Weeks Explained

Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.

Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;

Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.

Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days.

When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the future armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building. Luke 21:24, Rev 11:2

The 70th literal week will see (The Beast/The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

 

[covenantee]

Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days.

When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the future armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building. Luke 21:24, Rev 11:2

The 70th literal week will see (The Beast/The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

You missed verse 24. When and by whom are what it describes carried out?

And who in orthodox Christian doctrine has taught or teaches such?

 

[Truth7t7]

You missed verse 24. When and by whom are what it describes carried out?

And who in orthodox Christian doctrine has taught or teaches such?

Daniel's 70 weeks are future literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing Exact Numerology"

 

[Truth7t7]

How about Revelation 20:4 is the faithful after the cross who prevailed over the beast, Daniel 7:21-22 is the faithful before the cross the ones who prevailed during the time of the Maccabees.

Daniel 7:22 below is showing the second coming and the righteous Saints possessing the "Eternal Kingdom" a future event unfulfilled

Where in the world does the text even suggest a group of faithful before the cross of Calvary "It Doesn't"

Perhaps you should read the context of the chapter, it clearly interprets Daniel 7:22

Daniel 7:22KJV
22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

Does Daniel 7:10 below clearly show the ancient of days in the second coming and final judgment? "100% Yes"!

Does Daniel 7:18 below clearly show the saints possessing the Eternal Kingdom, the forever, even forever and ever kingdom? "100% Yes"!

Marty I'm baffled at how you apply these "Future" events of the second coming, eternal kingdom into a preterist historical account before the cross of Calvary?

A Real Big Head Shake To That One!

Daniel 7:9-18KJV
9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
12 As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
15 I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.
16 I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.
17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
18 But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

 

[IndianaRob]

Daniel 9:24-27, Seventy Literal "Future" Weeks Explained

Daniel's 70 weeks are literal 7 day periods, or 490 literal days.

If Daniel meant 490 years he would have written

(Four Hundred Ninety Years)

Daniel had no restrictions in "Writing" exact numerology as seen below.

Daniel 6:1KJV
It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;

Daniel 8:14KJV
And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

Daniel 12:11KJV
And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Below in Daniel 10:2-3 we see just another example of Daniel's literal weeks, as Daniel mourned and fasted for 3 literal weeks or 21 days.

Daniel 10:2-3KJV
2 In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.

Below in Daniel 9:24-27 we see 70 literal "Future" weeks or 490 days.

When the "Future" call/commandment goes out in Jerusalem to build unto the Jewish Meshiach/Messiah that they wait for (They Denied Jesus Christ) this will start the 7 week period in preparing to build.

62 literal weeks will be in building, and Meshiach/Messiah will be cut off by the future armies surrounding Jerusalem, this stops the building. Luke 21:24, Rev 11:2

The 70th literal week will see (The Beast/The Antichrist) revealed in making a covenant, and in the middle of this literal week he proclaims to be Meshiach/Messiah God to the Jews, and Jesus returned to the apostate church, to start a Millennium on earth.

The 3.5 year tribulation starts at this time.

Daniel 9:24-27KJV
24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Are you saying that even though Jesus literally fulfilled everything in Daniel’s 70 Weeks, including verse 27 in a single week, He still didn’t fulfill the prophecy?

Is this a “dual fulfillment” prophecy or something?