You are making stuff up here. The ten toes does not become something they are not. That is your opinion, not Scripture.
"And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken."
This verse does not say 10 kings will make the nation strong one day and weak the next day. The ten toes are a divided kingdom at the same time, not just over time. The feet are the 5th Kingdom, that is not covered in subsequent dreams. You try to break up what you call pagan Rome, and papal Rome, as one continues kingdom. Then cannot explain the 5 are fallen in Revelation 17. You may as well say Greece and Rome are the same kingdom as they cover the same territory and their beast like appearance overlaps into 1 kingdom. Why not just say the image is a single image and only one kingdom with overlap?
The little horns are dead and gone. Does it really matter who they were?
Jesus was already walking in the fire with the 3 Hebrew children, and the plan of Salvation already at work in Daniel's day. But that church did not grind the image up until the 15th century, and the image is no more.
"And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."
That was fulfilled over 500 years ago. We are in the 6th world kingdom time frame, with the mortal wound. All of Daniel's dream's beasts and horns are in the past and have nothing to do with the future that John saw. In type, Satan may act the same way, as the little horn in the future, as his nature never changes. Humans who listen to Satan have the same nature as Satan. All the horns in Daniel are come and gone. The ten horns in Revelation may not even be born yet. They certainly were not born a hundred years ago, nor 500 years ago, in the 15th century.
I am not ignoring the little horn, that is not found in Revelation once. Antiochus Epiphanes was one little horn, a literal person: Daniel 8:8-10
"Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them."
This little horn was in the third kingdom: Greece. Not even the same little horn found in Daniel 7, of the 4th kingdom, Rome. Daniel is not in chronological order. Rome is found in chapter 7. Greece is found in chapter 8. In chapter 9 we see the birth of Jesus, and then back to Persia in chapter 10 and 11, with the change between Persia and Greece.
Daniel gives us ten horns of Rome, which is probably the 12 Ceasars of the first century, even while Jesus was on the earth, but which Ceasar was the little horn is guess work, no? I don't see them as the ten toes. The nations of the ten toes came hundreds of years later.
This 4th kingdom would split into two halves, which it did, and the two legs have merit. But it was certainly not the same conglomerate that ruled for a thousand years from the 5th century to the 15th. Even if you continue to demand that it was and even giving it two names, pagan and papal; I still say pagan was the 4th, and papal was the 5th, although it did have a Title. The Holy Roman Empire has been said to have been neither Holy nor Roman, but you tend to disagree with that, and call it all Rome.
You are making stuff up here. The ten toes does not become something they are not. That is your opinion, not Scripture.
"And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken."
This verse does not say 10 kings will make the nation strong one day and weak the next day. The ten toes are a divided kingdom at the same time, not just over time. The feet are the 5th Kingdom, that is not covered in subsequent dreams. You try to break up what you call pagan Rome, and papal Rome, as one continues kingdom. Then cannot explain the 5 are fallen in Revelation 17. You may as well say Greece and Rome are the same kingdom as they cover the same territory and their beast like appearance overlaps into 1 kingdom. Why not just say the image is a single image and only one kingdom with overlap?
The little horns are dead and gone. Does it really matter who they were?
Jesus was already walking in the fire with the 3 Hebrew children, and the plan of Salvation already at work in Daniel's day. But that church did not grind the image up until the 15th century, and the image is no more.
"And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever."
That was fulfilled over 500 years ago. We are in the 6th world kingdom time frame, with the mortal wound. All of Daniel's dream's beasts and horns are in the past and have nothing to do with the future that John saw. In type, Satan may act the same way, as the little horn in the future, as his nature never changes. Humans who listen to Satan have the same nature as Satan. All the horns in Daniel are come and gone. The ten horns in Revelation may not even be born yet. They certainly were not born a hundred years ago, nor 500 years ago, in the 15th century.
I am not ignoring the little horn, that is not found in Revelation once. Antiochus Epiphanes was one little horn, a literal person: Daniel 8:8-10
"Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them."
This little horn was in the third kingdom: Greece. Not even the same little horn found in Daniel 7, of the 4th kingdom, Rome. Daniel is not in chronological order. Rome is found in chapter 7. Greece is found in chapter 8. In chapter 9 we see the birth of Jesus, and then back to Persia in chapter 10 and 11, with the change between Persia and Greece.
Daniel gives us ten horns of Rome, which is probably the 12 Ceasars of the first century, even while Jesus was on the earth, but which Ceasar was the little horn is guess work, no? I don't see them as the ten toes. The nations of the ten toes came hundreds of years later.
This 4th kingdom would split into two halves, which it did, and the two legs have merit. But it was certainly not the same conglomerate that ruled for a thousand years from the 5th century to the 15th. Even if you continue to demand that it was and even giving it two names, pagan and papal; I still say pagan was the 4th, and papal was the 5th, although it did have a Title. The Holy Roman Empire has been said to have been neither Holy nor Roman, but you tend to disagree with that, and call it all Rome.
