Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

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Episkopos

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The crows are back feeding on carrion and whatever is dead. Shoo away you vultures.

No one is being honest and taking on anything truthful or even staying on topic. No...revilers have a carnal axe to grind and brethren to attack...and you can't help it...it's in the uncrucified nature.
 

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Amen! Those who believe they live a sinless, without fault or defect, flawless, absolute perfect life 100% of the time (exactly as Jesus lived) are suffering from a terminal case of self-righteousness.
However, when you walk in the Spirit you do not do the works of the flesh. Are we able to walk in the Spirit for extended times? A day? A week? A month? A year? If not, what exactly is it that prevents us?

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Abide in Him, pray without ceasing[1 Thessalonians 5:17 and Ephesians 6:18], capture every thought [2 Cor 10:3-6] is how we protect ourselves from sin and when do sin after all it is not willingly [3:9] and we don't fall from grace as you believe, however when it is willingly (I can not imagine that) then I will agree with you, that is falling from grace and needs repentance.
If you've not had a 'fallen from grace / broken faith" experience I daresay you won't know what it's like. I've been deceived into that myself, and was quite devastated for the better part of a year before being restored. Falling from grace is coming to rely on yourself to do what is needed to be or remain saved, and is a broken faith (my wording).

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All people got time to do is judge. Lol... Idk what he doing or what he believes or what he shares on his video.

But you guys make sure you point your finger in his eye, or make sure you put a cigarette in the back of his neck....

Yall weirdos.
 

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How?

I know what generally prevents me, it's thinking that the battle is already lost before it's even begun. Lack of faith. But when I keep in my heart that I'm forever reconciled to God, there is no lack.

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when your focus moves off the love of others. and points to self.
that is when you stop and you get in trouble.

how often do we do this every day?
 

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If you've not had a 'fallen from grace / broken faith" experience I daresay you won't know what it's like. I've been deceived into that myself, and was quite devastated for the better part of a year before being restored. Falling from grace is coming to rely on yourself to do what is needed to be or remain saved, and is a broken faith (my wording).

Much love!

Same here, I needed 20+ years to recover.
 

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However, when you walk in the Spirit you do not do the works of the flesh. Are we able to walk in the Spirit for extended times? A day? A week? A month? A year? If not, what exactly is it that prevents us?

Much love!

Following 1 John 3:6 the answer is - Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. [KJV]

It's the key verse of the holiness movement, Epi included.

It gives a whole new meaning of what abiding in Christ is, that you can not sin as long as you abide in Christ.

It's what Epi believes.
 

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All people got time to do is judge. Lol... Idk what he doing or what he believes or what he shares on his video.

But you guys make sure you point your finger in his eye, or make sure you put a cigarette in the back of his neck....

Yall weirdos.

Then you haven't understood the seriousness of the thread and the claim that is made.
 

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Following 1 John 3:6 the answer is - Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. [KJV]

It's the key verse of the holiness movement, Epi included.

It gives a whole new meaning of what abiding in Christ is, that you can not sin as long as you abide in Christ.

It's what Epi believes.
But what is your answer, what prevents us from walking in the Spirit at all times?

Much love!
 

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Those who sin have never known Him. What sin? The sin of limiting God and the power of His grace. Whoever abides in Him doesn't sin....in Him is no sin. Whoever abides in Him will walk as Jesus walked...in His perfection. If I say that last statement you will react to it in the flesh because you don't understand the bible and it's impossible sounding (to unbelievers) ramifications.

So this verse...
Whosoever abideth in Him sinneth not; whosoever sinneth hath not seen Him, neither known Him.

or..

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Are these 2 verses saying the same thing? You will not be able to fathom the depth of the meaning so you won't understand what the author John is getting at. You will have your own opinion of what it means to abide in Christ and you will walk away unchanged unaffected by the truth.

You are wrong to say that I don't understand what you have chosen to believe, you think that abiding in Christ equals living sinless.

So, let's discuss what abiding in Christ means.

You first, it's your claim.

And context matters.
 

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But what is your answer, what prevents us from walking in the Spirit at all times?

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The flesh . and its why we need to get far more serious again about sin and about error .
Because the flesh is contrary . that is why .
But that is no excuse . WE do have all we need to overcome .
The problem is , most now preach a rainbow jesus .
No one is corrected of their sin and error , WELL unless its the MOST deadly sin of all .
Any guesses on what more more see as the upmost deadly sin of all .
THE SIN of what they see as hate , as what they view as sowing discord .
ITS CORRECTION of sin mark . TO them that is the SIN OF ALL SINS and only a demon like man would dare
to correct them . OH its okay for them to
attack scriptures , to downplay the importance of the bible
To spread their lies and now even the ULTIMATE REAL SIN of all , UNBELEIF .
but how dare a man stand and correct and expose
And how dare a man actually BELIEVE THE BIBLE . we got problems mark . Big ones
and this is why the churches keep on tanking and tanking an d t tanking . But do not worry yourself mark .
I will expose them all . any time i see a sin it will be corrected
any time i see a false doctrine it will be corrected . And anytime one says anything
about following a leader , or sitting under a leader, and I KNOW its a wolf , OH YEAH its exposed too .
Naming wolves is not an election , and its not hate , ITS DARN NECESSARY . TO hades with this victim card
junk , this judge not correct not card . DONT we realize ITS HOW EVIL TOOK OVER YET .
 
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Then you haven't understood the seriousness of the thread and the claim that is made.
That's false. He hasn't been deceived enough to join the crows and disparage a servant of God. The seriousness of carnal rebellion and unbelief is what I'm addressing...and the carnal nature is being provoked in the uncrucified flesh...same as always.
 
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You are wrong to say that I don't understand what you have chosen to believe, you think that abiding in Christ equals living sinless.

So, let's discuss what abiding in Christ means.

You first, it's your claim.

And context matters.
You can make up your reasons, and human opinions...but the bible will suffice. You don't believe the bible..but others that are afraid to post to the crows may believe.

I have written down the verses that speak of abiding in Christ and you blindly claim to not be able to see your screen. The crows can't hear truth.

There may be others who are reading and are not yet gone too far down the rabbit hole of lies...

He that saith that he abideth in Him, ought himself also so to walk, even as He walked. 1 John 2:6

4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. 1 John 3


“But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.” Gal. 2:17

NOW, ignore the word of God and invent your own opinion thinking the carnal mind has anything worthwhile to say...

Proceed
 
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Following 1 John 3:6 the answer is - Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. [KJV]

It's the key verse of the holiness movement, Epi included.

It gives a whole new meaning of what abiding in Christ is, that you can not sin as long as you abide in Christ.

It's what Epi believes.
he also believes you are not saved unless you do that..
 

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That's false. He hasn't been deceived enough to join the crows and disparage a servant of God. The seriousness of carnal rebellion and unbelief is what I'm addressing...and the carnal nature is being provoked in the uncrucified flesh...same as always.

It's not false at all. We are discussing YOUR CLAIM we can live as Jesus, sinless.