Proof there is only a single Day of Judgment at the end of the world on the Day appointed and that Judge is Christ

[ewq1938]

Phil 3
20 But [we are different, because] our citizenship is in heaven.
And from there we eagerly await [the coming of] the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; 21 who, by exerting that power which enables Him even to subject everything to Himself, will [not only] transform [but completely refashion] our earthly bodies so that they will be like His glorious resurrected body.

That is not 2Th_1:10. In 2Th_1:10 Christ is glorified not the saints. It is not the second coming timeframe because the GWTJ and LOF do not occur at the second coming.

 

[jeffweeder]

That is not 2Th_1:10. In 2Th_1:10 Christ is glorified not the saints.

How is Jesus glorified at his second coming? Is not the Lord already glorified as he sits at the right hand of his Father.
At the second coming Jesus appears in the glory of the Father lol.
The saints are clearly glorified as we will be like him when we see him as he. We will have a glorious body like his already glorious body.

It is not the second coming timeframe because the GWTJ and LOF do not occur at the second coming.

What timeframe is it then?
2thess 1 still has the saints being persecuted and awaiting the relief that the Lord will provide when he appears.


3 We ought always and indeed are morally obligated [as those in debt] to give thanks to God for you, brothers and sisters, as is fitting, because your faith is growing ever greater, and the [unselfish] love of each one of you toward one another is continually increasing. 4 Therefore, we speak of you with pride among the churches of God for your steadfastness [your unflinching endurance, and patience] and your firm faith in the midst of all the persecution and [crushing] distress which you endure.
5 This is a positive proof of the righteous judgment of God [a sign of His fair verdict], so that you will be considered worthy of His kingdom, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with distress those who distress you, 7 and to give relief to you who are so distressed and to us as well when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in a flame of fire, 8 dealing out [full and complete] vengeance to those who do not [seek to] know God and to those who ignore and refuse to obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus [by choosing not to respond to Him].

We clearly are not glorified before the 2Thess 1 event are we EWQ.

 

[ewq1938]

How is Jesus glorified at his second coming?

The passage does not speak of the second coming. I already told you that.

 

[jeffweeder]

The passage does not speak of the second coming. I already told you that.

What passage/s speak about the second coming?..........and what does that do for the saints who witness it?

 

[ewq1938]

What passage/s speak about the second coming?..........and what does that do for the saints who witness it?

No red herrings please. We are discussing what 2Th_1:10 says VS what you claim it says but in fact does not say. You keep trying to bring in other verses to hide the fact that 2Th_1:10 does not say the saints are glorified. You think 2Th_1:10 is about the second coming when the saints are glorified but it does not speak of the saints being glorified which means you have no evidence to support that it is about the second coming timeframe.

 

[jeffweeder]

No red herrings please. We are discussing what 2Th_1:10 says VS what you claim it says but in fact does not say. You keep trying to bring in other verses to hide the fact that 2Th_1:10 does not say the saints are glorified.

Stick to the facts please and try and answer questions put to you.

You think 2Th_1:10 is about the second coming when the saints are glorified but it does not speak of the saints being glorified which means you have no evidence to support that it is about the second coming timeframe.

Lol
God is not the author of confusion. When it speaks of the Lord coming with his Angels, it speaks of his one and only coming/appearing.


Matt 16
Jesus said...,
27 For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory and majesty of His Father with His angels, and then He will repay each one in accordance with what he has done.


Matt 25
31 “But when the Son of Man comes in His glory and majesty and all the angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him [for judgment]; and He will separate them from one another, as a shepherd separates his sheep from the goats; 33 and He will put the sheep on His right [the place of honor], and the goats on His left [the place of rejection].
34 “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you blessed of My Father [you favored of God, appointed to eternal salvation], inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.
41 “Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Leave Me, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels (demons);

Mark 8:38
For whoever is ashamed [here and now] of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”

Luke 9:26
For whoever is ashamed [here and now] of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory and the glory of the [heavenly] Father and of the holy angels.


2Thess 1
This is a plain indication of God’s righteous judgment so that you will be considered worthy of the kingdom of God, for which indeed you are suffering. 6 For after all it is only just for God to repay with affliction those who afflict you, 7 and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as well when the Lord Jesus will be revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in flaming fire, 8 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power, 10 when He comes to be glorified in His saints on that day, and to be marveled at among all who have believed—for our testimony to you was believed.

Jude
14 It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”


That should leave you in no doubt.... but I bet it won't.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The passage does not speak of the second coming. I already told you that.

To deny that 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 is about the second coming shows that no one should take you seriously at all. It shows an incredible lack of discernment on your part.

 

[ewq1938]

God is not the author of confusion. When it speaks of the Lord coming with his Angels, it speaks of his one and only coming/appearing.

He will have two comings total, from heaven to Earth but arriving anywhere else would be a different coming. The GWTJ is not held in heaven or Earth so Christ will have a coming to that location which is what the passage refers to.