Behold
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The bible reveals the past, the present, and also the future.
The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, so, to avoid the Bible is to avoid the Holy Spirit's words.
The Bible and the Holy Spirit work together as "ONE".
Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author
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The bible reveals the past, the present, and also the future.
The Holy Spirit wrote the Bible, so, to avoid the Bible is to avoid the Holy Spirit's words.
The Bible and the Holy Spirit work together as "ONE".
The body of Christ, the church is built on Christ. His continued revelation of God's thoughts given to its members is our Light, Spiritual Food, Truth, Instruction, and Doctrine.
Christ and His Father are not mute. They have never stopped communicating new truths but do so continuously through Their Spirit in us.
That's entirely up to the Spirit of Truth within me. I don't dictate to Him what He says or the means He uses. I just receive it and thank Him. It's pretty simple really.
As you may or may no realise by now, I will not go to God via the bible. I go directly to Him. Again if He speaks to me through the bible, an animal, a person, an angel or any other third party then that's His prerogative not mine.
As a child of God it's a present relationship lived out each new day.
His Spirit and my spirit communicating with eachother daily.
The teacher is God's Spirit Who He sent to live in us. He is our Resident Teacher. I am HIS student who get private one on one tuition.
As Jesus said and He is fulfilling His promise today, Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
'All things that the Father has' aren't all contained in one book. That's ridiculous. The bible contains but a drop in the ocean, a grain of sand on the beach. And definitely not every word of God that proceeds from His mouth. Let's stop pretending that it does. If only those who say this would realise how insane this claim is. And that it is far far far from the truth. In fact it is an outright lie. Some may say, from the pit of hell. Or it has proceeded from the mouth of Satan.
See, thats where the difficultly comes in with human comparisons, because the spirit of our earthly parents does not reside within us (whether they are away or at home) nor do they write to us things that require our thoughts be turned toward their instruction that would ever equip us or perfect the man of God. Neither are we really "blessed when we readeth and keep the things written within" kind of thing. Nor is it desirable to be meditating on their words all the day long (indeed, you might be an exception to that rule). So no, we typically read what they might have penned on a post it, and hit whats on that list of basic daily human "to do's", whether that be doing the dishes or laundry and the post it hits the can. Their words arent God breathed, so you cetainly do not want to spend too much time whereas God's words are not a distraction from His presense but a joy.
I do believe that some people idolize their own thoughts, and so in like manner their own words. Which I think could be a form of idolizing themselves, or of self worship. Glorifying themselves in otherwords. Who oftentimes seem to be a bit put off by those setting forth the words of God, and find it a little convenient to villify the use of the words of God, to make a little more room for their own. Well, if anyones words can be made into an idol (there you go).
I guess this could be possible and probably practiced.
How empty these people must feel in the end being self-centred and self-reliant.
As we continue to receive new words of life, God's ever new truth from His mouth we can't help but see more of our Divine God and love Him more.
His words brought to us directly from God in heaven as we are carrried along by His Spirit is life changing hey. I love receiving new fresh life producing words of God and applying them to my life. I'm thinking you do to.
No. They don't believe that at all.
They believe in a sealed canon. (whatever that means)
They believe the English translation of the Bible is God's final word for us.
That God has NOTHING more to say to us.
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The great truth is that what the Holy Spirit brings to us directly, not via a medium, Moses, David, Jeremiah etc is from the mouth of God in heaven in real time. Just as I speak directly to my Father in heaven from planet earth, He speaks directly to me from heaven to where I sit right now. The only medium I use is Jesus, the Mediator between me and our Father. The Medium He uses is His Holy Spirit Who communicates on His behalf to my spirit. No need for a human medium or teacher. In fact no need for me to use the bible directly, yet the Spirit may choose to use it. That's His choice of course.
Now I would suspect that's a doctrine of demons. I think I could guess who would be first in line to come up with this lie and help spread it.
It's a very cunning being I'm thinking of. He would appreciate it if people didn't have direct communication with their Creator. That could be detrimental to him and his dominion over humans. To have the light of God's ongoing new revelation of truth being known, believed and lived. Too many captives would be set free by all these new truths.
I hope that the Spirit of God opens more people's eyes and ears so that they can know God's words specifically for them and the whole body. That they will no longer be so dependant on humans but will live by the Spirit Who can never be silenced or muted. They who have ears to hear, let us hear what He has to personally say to us and walk in its light. This is obviously not in a 2000 year old book. We, on this forum weren't born back then for Him to live in us and to hear Him speak to us directly.
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Yes, all over the internet = new 'truths' coming daily = "Jesus told me this and that (new stuff)", "God showed me Himself Removed from Power", 9 mistakes in the Lord's prayer, NDE's died and saw Jesus, but where do they say "they fell face down on the ground" like all to he OT people (and Paul! [ our apostle!!] ) "God Appeared To", etc. etc. etc.?
Would it not be Far Better to go By "The Blessed Holy Spirit Teaching us Through
"God's Complete Word Of Truth"?:
"And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself
and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us
not to think above That Which Is Written,
that no one of you be puffed up for one against another." (1 Corinthians 4:6 AV)
How, exactly is it "worship and praising God" to "lower" His Pure And HOLY Word
Beneath Where He Himself Has Placed It?:
"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy Name for Thy Lovingkindness and for
Thy Truth: for Thou Hast Magnified Thy Word Above All Thy Name." (Psalm 138:2 AV)
Amen.
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I might not know what you mean by things, by I can agree that the Holy Spirit which spake by the prophets was to be poured out on all flesh and given to those who believe in Jesus Christ who has seated us in heavenly places in Him, and His Spirit bears witness with our own that we are the children of God.
His choice for me is to abide in both Him and His words
Behold
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Every time a Holy Bible is opened, God the creator is communicating through every word, on every page, via the Holy Spirit.
The Devil hopes you continue to never find this out. @One 2 question
If you are ok to throw the baby out with the bathwater then that's your choice. But for this sheep I will hear the Good Shepherd and be fed by Him.
Jesus said, man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God. No amount of written words could be even close to the tip of the iceberg. The growing iceberg being the words coming from God's mouth every moment of eternity without end.
Out of interest. Why did you add a capital letter to the word written 'Written'. Maybe it was a typo.
And written to who specifically? A group of people Paul had a personal relationship to in Corinth, who he said he was their father. And the specific groups in other specific places who he knew, 'churches'
They were not written to me or you as has never met us. We are not his children nor is he my father.
No one in my group is commiting fornication with his father's wife. Paul from a specific time (2000 years ago) from a specific location (prison) was writing to a specific group (residents of Corinth) about a specific person (his actual name is not mentioned) regarding a specific act (commiting fornication with his father's wife).
Where does God place His words? In our spirit where He lives. His Spirit communicates with my spirit every day.
Again, is there a particular reason you have gone out of your way to added capitals to these words? They don't appear to be in any of the English translations. I think you are trying to make a point that may or may not be there.
I'm not going to ague your point. Maybe He does or He doesn't.
The fantastic truth through experience is that the Holy Spirit communicates with our spirit way way way beyond what's recorded in the books of the bibles.
The scriptures still exist as you know and are available to me as with you. The difference is I don't go to it to hear God's word. I go directly to His Spirit. If He in turn refers to what He's revealed in the past then great. I won't refuse what He gives that's for sure.
Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author
A perfectly clear lie that Christians worship the Bible!
Who is the Author? Don't have a clue maybe?
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Still listening to spirits instead of the Bible?
1 Timothy 4:1-2
1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy,
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