WARNING: Many Who Now Speak SPEAK AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT.

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“Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven."

These are the times for which Jesus gave the above warning--because He was then going to the Father and would send the Holy Spirit. And what did He say to and of those He sends?

Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless[f] as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. 18 You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you" (Matthew 10:17-20).​
It is one thing to have a discussion, even disagreements, but it would be wise to avoid making accusations--against those you think you are talking to.
 

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“Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven."

These are the times for which Jesus gave the above warning--because He was then going to the Father and would send the Holy Spirit. And what did He say to and of those He sends?

Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless[f] as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. 18 You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you" (Matthew 10:17-20).​
It is one thing to have a discussion, even disagreements, but it would be wise to avoid making accusations--against those you think you are talking to.

I've had someone here accuse me of having the devil in my heart or similar quite a few times. I overlook what he says because I know it's not true, but that's a horrible thing to say to another born again Christian.
 

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“Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but to him who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven."

These are the times for which Jesus gave the above warning--because He was then going to the Father and would send the Holy Spirit. And what did He say to and of those He sends?

Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless[f] as doves. 17 But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils and scourge you in their synagogues. 18 You will be brought before governors and kings for My sake, as a testimony to them and to the Gentiles. 19 But when they deliver you up, do not worry about how or what you should speak. For it will be given to you in that hour what you should speak; 20 for it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you" (Matthew 10:17-20).​
It is one thing to have a discussion, even disagreements, but it would be wise to avoid making accusations--against those you think you are talking to.
If anyone questions you, they are of the devil? In your thinking, anyone who disagrees with you, and who rejects the Full Preterist lie, is damned to a lost eternity. Who do you think you are?

You are committing the very thing you are accusing others of.

That is projection. That is hypocrisy.

Readers:

This is where he got offended:

 

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If anyone questions you, they are of the devil? In your thinking, anyone who disagrees with you, and who rejects the Full Preterist lie, is damned to a lost eternity. Who do you think you are?

You are committing the very thing you are accusing others of.

That is projection. That is hypocrisy.

Readers:

This is where he got offended:

You tread on dangerous ground. But (talk about projection) I never said anything like that.

I guess you didn't get the message--again. Jesus said it first, and I just reminded you of the truth of what He said...and this is your reaction. Not good. Not good at all, but confirming.

The point is, if you only go by those passages that speak and warn of false prophets and teachers, and do not allow exception for those passages that speak of those who are true--the method of which is also given...then you "quench" if not "blaspheme the Holy Spirit."

But here you are believing and assuming only in part.
 
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Wouldn’t it make sense that the Holy Spirit—who is called the Spirit of Truth in John 16:13—would lead a person into truth, not deception? “When He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth.” That doesn’t leave room for the Spirit to mislead someone into falsehood.

So why is it that when someone follows what they believe the Spirit has revealed through scripture, they’re treated like the problem?

Take me, for example. I believe Jesus Christ returned as He promised, and that He overcame Satan, Sin, Death, and Hades—just as the Word declares:

• Hebrews 2:14 — “...that through death He might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil.”
• Revelation 1:18 — “I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.”
• Romans 6:9 — “Knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.”

I believe these things because they’re written. Yet somehow, that makes me the bad guy? The one who’s supposedly not following the Holy Spirit, and needs to be corrected by men and their traditions?

So where do we draw the line? Who gets to decide when someone is truly Spirit-led?

As far as I understand, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit isn’t just disagreement—it’s calling what is good, evil. Jesus said in Matthew 12:32, “Anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”

But even that, I believe, is about hardened denial—calling the Spirit’s work demonic, not simply misunderstanding.

If someone repents and turns from that perception, wouldn’t God restore them?

Acts 2:38 says, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.” That’s not a closed door—it’s an invitation.

So in my view, the unforgivable nature of blasphemy isn’t about God refusing to forgive—it’s about a person refusing to believe, refusing to see God as good. That’s the line. And if someone crosses it, not by accident but by hardened rebellion, they’ve shut themselves off from the very Spirit who could lead them back.
 

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Wouldn’t it make sense that the Holy Spirit—who is called the Spirit of Truth in John 16:13—would lead a person into truth, not deception? “When He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth.” That doesn’t leave room for the Spirit to mislead someone into falsehood.
I will read the rest later, but this (above) needs an answer.

Yes, it makes since...sort of...but not if you take into account the path that is described in scripture on which the Holy Spirit leads us. So, No, that is not necessarily the definitive meaning, but certainly that would be the end of the matter--for that is the promise of Christ. But remember, He promised both--both "all truth" and "a sword." A sword wherein is also listed "false teachers", the believing of "a lie", and "strong delusion."
 

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Is it crossing into schizophrenia territory when people claim to receive messages from God—especially when those messages predict something specific happening today, and the prophecy fails to come true?


Biblically, prophecy is a sacred responsibility. God does speak to His people, but He also warns against false prophecy:


  • Jeremiah 23:16 — “Do not listen to the words of the prophets who prophesy to you. They make you worthless; they speak a vision of their own heart, not from the mouth of the Lord.”
  • Deuteronomy 18:22 — “When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken.”

So when someone repeatedly predicts events that don’t happen, it’s not just a theological error—it’s a sign that they may be speaking from their own imagination, not from the Spirit of God.


Now, does that mean they’re schizophrenic? Not necessarily.


Schizophrenia is a clinical condition involving hallucinations, delusions, and disorganized thinking. It’s a medical diagnosis, not a spiritual label. But if someone insists they’re hearing from God while consistently making false predictions, and especially if they show signs of confusion, paranoia, or detachment from reality, it’s wise to consider both spiritual and psychological discernment.


Scripture calls us to test everything:


  • 1 John 4:1 — “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
  • 1 Thessalonians 5:20–21 — “Do not despise prophecies, but test everything; hold fast what is good.”

The Holy Spirit is not the author of confusion (1 Corinthians 14:33). He leads us into truth (John 16:13), not deception. So if someone’s “prophetic” experiences are chaotic, fear-driven, or consistently inaccurate, it’s not schizophrenia by default—but it may be a spiritual misalignment, and possibly a mental health concern.


Ultimately, false prophecy is dangerous—not just because it misleads others, but because it can isolate the person from correction, accountability, and healing. Whether the root is spiritual error, emotional trauma, or mental illness, the solution begins with humility, repentance, and wise counsel.
 

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I will read the rest later, but this (above) needs an answer.

Yes, it makes since...sort of...but not if you take into account the path that is described in scripture on which the Holy Spirit leads us. So, No, that is not necessarily the definitive meaning, but certainly that would be the end of the matter--for that is the promise of Christ. But remember, He promised both--both "all truth" and "a sword." A sword wherein is also listed "false teachers", the believing of "a lie", and "strong delusion."


I know you claim you are someone who is under direct authority from God and supposedly are a self-proclaimed prophet. You said those things yourself, to me openly before, idk if you have changed your position or not.

So if someone denies you are they denying the holy spirit?
 
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So how are the times more dangerous or different concerning the same?
The Holy Spirit is the power of God poured out upon all flesh--both on the good and on the evil. With which comes the terms regarding blasphemy. Add to that, Jesus saying, to and of those He sends "it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."

Dangerous times indeed.
 

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So why is it that when someone follows what they believe the Spirit has revealed through scripture, they’re treated like the problem?
You are asking some BIG questions. Great questions!

There would appear to be much confusion on what receiving the Holy Spirit means. It's not equal, or the same during these times--these times of "we who are alive and remain"--alive in the Spirit, but remaining in the flesh and in this world. This is rather a time of service--that is why we are left to "remain." All being equal and the same will only come when we have finished our service.

Meanwhile, as it is written there are "some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ"--which is to say, when we are "finished" as Christ "is finished."

That was Paul speaking about the Church age--indicating no end to prophecy, etc. until the end--which many deny against what is written, quenching the Spirit.
 

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Well I dont need you to tell me about the Holy Spirit, @ScottA.


If you really wanted to respond to me I would have to ask you to take it all and be able to do something with it....


Here is Post number 7 broken down,

The Spirit of Truth and the Logic of Guidance
John 16:13 calls the Holy Spirit “the Spirit of truth,” promising that “He will guide you into all the truth.”
This isn’t vague or partial—it’s a divine guarantee. If the Spirit’s role is to guide, then deception cannot be His fruit.
So logically, if someone sincerely follows what they believe the Spirit has revealed through scripture, why are they treated like the problem?
This tension exposes a deeper issue: the clash between Spirit-led conviction and man-made tradition.

✝️ The Return of Christ and His Victory
You believe Jesus fulfilled His promise to return and overcame the forces that enslaved humanity. Scripture supports this:
• Hebrews 2:14 — Christ destroyed “the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil.”
• Revelation 1:18 — He holds “the keys of Hades and of Death,” having conquered both.
• Romans 6:9 — “Death no longer has dominion over Him.”
These aren’t fringe ideas—they’re foundational truths. Yet believing them can make you the “bad guy” in some circles, as if trusting scripture over tradition is rebellion.

Who Decides What’s Spirit-Led?
This leads to a critical question:
Who gets to decide when someone is truly Spirit-led?
Is it the institutional voice, the popular opinion, or the fruit of the Spirit in a person’s life?
Paul reminds us in Galatians 5:22–23 that the Spirit’s fruit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
If someone walks in these, and their beliefs align with scripture, why are they condemned?

⚠️ Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit: Misunderstanding vs. Malice
Matthew 12:32 warns: “Anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.”
But context matters. Jesus was confronting Pharisees who called His Spirit-powered miracles demonic.
This wasn’t confusion—it was hardened denial.
Blasphemy here isn’t mere disagreement. It’s calling the Spirit’s work evil.
But what if someone repents? What if they once misunderstood, but now see clearly?

Restoration Is Possible
Acts 2:38 offers hope:
“Repent, and let every one of you be baptized… and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.”
This isn’t a closed door—it’s an open invitation.
God doesn’t bar forgiveness; people bar themselves by refusing to believe.
So the “unforgivable” sin isn’t about God’s unwillingness—it’s about human refusal.
The line is drawn not by error, but by rebellion.
Not by confusion, but by calling good evil and refusing to turn back.

Creative Angle for Spoken Word or Visual Art
You could frame this as a courtroom of the soul:
• The Spirit as the witness of truth
• Tradition as the prosecutor
• Scripture as the defense
• And the believer caught in the tension between revelation and rejection
 

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Breakdown of post number 11






Question at the Core


Is it schizophrenia when someone claims to hear from God, predicts something specific happening today, and it doesn’t come true?
This question isn’t just psychological—it’s theological, pastoral, and prophetic. It asks: Where do we draw the line between divine inspiration, human imagination, and mental instability?





Prophecy Is Sacred—but Also Dangerous


Scripture affirms that God speaks to His people. But it also warns against false prophecy:


  • Jeremiah 23:16 — “They speak a vision of their own heart, not from the mouth of the Lord.”
  • Deuteronomy 18:22 — “If the thing does not happen or come to pass… the Lord has not spoken.”

So when someone repeatedly makes predictions that fail, it’s not just a mistake—it’s a sign they may be speaking from their own thoughts, not the Spirit of God. That’s a theological error, not necessarily a mental illness.





What Is Schizophrenia, Really?


Schizophrenia is a clinical condition involving:


  • Hallucinations (seeing or hearing things that aren’t there)
  • Delusions (false beliefs, often paranoid or grandiose)
  • Disorganized thinking and speech
  • Emotional withdrawal or confusion

It’s a medical diagnosis—not a spiritual label. But if someone insists they’re hearing from God while consistently making false predictions, and they show signs of paranoia, confusion, or detachment from reality, it’s wise to consider both spiritual and psychological discernment.





Biblical Discernment Is Required


Scripture doesn’t tell us to blindly accept every spiritual claim. It tells us to test:


  • 1 John 4:1 — “Test the spirits to see whether they are from God.”
  • 1 Thessalonians 5:20–21 — “Do not despise prophecies, but test everything; hold fast what is good.”

And remember:


  • 1 Corinthians 14:33 — “God is not the author of confusion.”
  • John 16:13 — “The Spirit of truth… will guide you into all truth.”

If someone’s prophetic experiences are chaotic, fear-driven, or consistently wrong, it’s not schizophrenia by default—but it may be spiritual misalignment, emotional trauma, or a deeper mental health concern.





⚠️ Why False Prophecy Is Dangerous


False prophecy doesn’t just mislead others—it isolates the person from correction, accountability, and healing. It can:


  • Create spiritual pride or delusion
  • Break trust in genuine prophetic voices
  • Lead to emotional instability or spiritual burnout

Whether the root is theological error, emotional pain, or mental illness, the solution begins with:


  • Humility — admitting we might be wrong
  • Repentance — turning back to truth
  • Wise counsel — seeking help from trusted spiritual and mental health guides
 

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Take me, for example. I believe Jesus Christ returned as He promised, and that He overcame Satan, Sin, Death, and Hades—just as the Word declares:

• Hebrews 2:14 — “...that through death He might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil.”
• Revelation 1:18 — “I am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.”
• Romans 6:9 — “Knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him.”

I believe these things because they’re written. Yet somehow, that makes me the bad guy? The one who’s supposedly not following the Holy Spirit, and needs to be corrected by men and their traditions?

So where do we draw the line? Who gets to decide when someone is truly Spirit-led?
Believing holds no authority in and of itself. The authority is still Christ's...and He has laid out His builders, and singers, etc.--not equally, but stone by stone where and when each is called. That is a far cry from taking license to proclaim what interpretation is true. And understand--the plan of God--at His hand includes both light and darkness, hill and valley, foundation and Corner and Cap Stone.

Therefore, we are called to do what is edifying according to our specific gifts of the Spirit--not to demand equal rights to speak or make claims.
 

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Believing holds no authority in and of itself. The authority is still Christ's...and He has laid out His builders, and singers, etc.--not equally, but stone by stone where and when each is called. That is a far cry from taking license to proclaim what interpretation is true. And understand--the plan of God--at His hand includes both light and darkness, hill and valley, foundation and Corner and Cap Stone.

Therefore, we are called to do what is edifying according to our specific gifts of the Spirit--not to demand equal rights to speak or make claims.



Basically you are still claiming to be a prophet of God, and you need to be adhered to? Unanswered post number 12.

Im good scotta, I dont really want to attend these meetings anymore.

Im just gonna mute your posts.


God doesnt have favorites, so everyone is equal ... God has love for the unbeliever, and the believer.
 
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The Holy Spirit is the power of God poured out upon all flesh--both on the good and on the evil. With which comes the terms regarding blasphemy. Add to that, Jesus saying, to and of those He sends "it is not you who speak, but the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you."

Dangerous times indeed.
Jesus was a sign that would be spoken against, and Jesus is in agreement with the same, when he said, " whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him"

Here

Luke 2:34 And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel;
and for a sign which shall be spoken against

And here in contrast

Luke 12:10 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost it shall not be forgiven.

And here also

Acts 23:32 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.

He even says,

Mark 3:28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

Which means there are many ways the sons of men can blaspheme, but here when he said,

Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation

It follows, calling the Holy Ghost Beelzebub, or as it says in the next verse

Mark 3:30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

They were not speaking directly to Jesus but rather the very Spirit Jesus cast devils out of others

Mark 3:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

The works were of His Father

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that
were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

You quote from here,

Mat 10:17 But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

Mat 10:18 And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

Mat 10:19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

Mat 10:20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

And then we see here just this

Acts 4:8 Then Peter, filled with the Holy Ghost, said unto them, Ye rulers of the people, and elders of Israel,

As they would be delivered up here as a testimony against them as Jesus told them (speaking by the Holy Ghost) and doing a miracle in his name.

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Acts 4:13 Now when they saw the boldness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were unlearned and ignorant men, they marvelled; and they took knowledge of them, that they had been with Jesus.
Acts 4:14 And beholding the man which was healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it.

They could not say anything against it

Acts 4:15 But when they had commanded them to go aside out of the council, they conferred among themselves,
Acts 4:16 Saying, What shall we do to these men? for that indeed a notable miracle hath been done by them is manifest to all them that dwell in Jerusalem; and we cannot deny it.

And they could not deny it

Acts 4:21 So when they had further threatened them, they let them go, finding nothing how they might punish them, because of the people: for all men glorified God for that which was done.
Acts 4: 22 For the man was above forty years old, on whom this miracle of healing was shewed.

Here they are speaking of the Holy Ghost by which Jesus himself performed his works (His miracles)

Mark 3:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said,
He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.

Saying, "he HATH Beelzebub and BY the prince of devils" he (Jesus) does these things (which were the works of His Father) which if he
did not do, Jesus said, "believe him not"

Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Like calling what is Holy unclean.

Mark 3:30 Because they said, He HATH an unclean spirit.

Their aim was not at Jesus (the Son of man) but the Spirit in him (by whom) he did his works (with power)
 
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I dont think it matters to talk to this guy anymore, Imma just leave him to himself. I can't take it anymore... Personally. Don't know if he will ever change from his already made ideas and beliefs. But he says belief doesnt matter so it is not resourceful.

so what you believe doesnt matter.

Unless you believe him and accept his way.

thats what I have really gathered in my times talking to him, might be untrue though.


and I get no one beliving me and my absurd claims thats cool and fine.
 
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