WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

[David in NJ]

Are you saying Doug is not a Christian?

#1 - Christians can be under a spell when they give themselves over to it.

#2 - i do not know if Doug is a 'christian' = only God knows

#3 - i never accused Doug of not being a christian!!! = stuff that in your pipe

 

[David in NJ]

I was just looking at this last night myself, looking at the espousal thing between Mary and Joseph and before they came together and Paul's espousal of them to Christ in a similar comparitive manner.

Mary was espoused to Joseph

Matt 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together,
she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Paul said, here, "I have espoused you to one husband" (almost like the friend of the bridgroom, as was John)

2 Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

In Matt 1:18 it says,

It says, "before they came together, she was found with child (which is Jesus in Mary according to the flesh) of the Holy Ghost"

Whereas here in Paul says (before the same come together) he travailed with them this way

Gal 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you (according to the Spirit)

Because a Paul points out here,

Ephes 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

Ephes 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Ephes 5:32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

He espouses them as a virgin to Christ (2 Cr 11:2)

2 Cr 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

But wouldnt the birth of Christ somewhat mirror the same shown in Mary (but not according to the flesh) but the Spirit?

The birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise (insert Mat 12:49 in the place of Mary ) and so before they came together, she/they were found with child of the Holy Ghost (or Christ being formed in them) of whom Paul travailed.

In the one would have Christ in them according to the flesh (in Mary) whereas in the other would have Christ formed in them (insert Matt 12:49) according to the Spirit.

Then ofcourse we also have two sets of virgins presented to us (they which are called the wise and also the foolish). And while the foolish went out to buy, its then that they that were ready went into the marriage

Matt 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

And as the wise were ready and went into the marriage, it similarly says in Rev 19:7 that "his wife hath made herself ready"

Rev 19:7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

All that to show the one espoused in both pictures are still referred to as the wife before they even come together.

What might your thoughts be on this?

Edit: typo

The moment the Bride says 'Yes' to the Bridegroom, they are espoused to each other in Marriage.
When JESUS chose His Bride(HE is still choosing Her) the disciples said 'Yes' and followed Him in Marriage.

This Marriage becomes FINALIZED when the Groom takes His Bride into the Wedding Chamber and the clothes come off.
Face to Face
Skin to Skin
The Man in the Woman
God's Way for the Family

Likewise, when we go home to the LORD, we see Him "Face to Face" and "we know Him even as we are known"
This is in the SPIRIT where flesh is not permitted and no longer any type of procreation = Matthew 22:23-33

 

[David in NJ]

Oh, I answered that in post #57

OK, i'll take a look tomorrow = thank you

 

[David in NJ]

The seeking for truth, and trying "win" a debate are very different things, aren't they? It's always good to know what our own motivation are, I should say!

Much love!

Speaking of Truth

In 2023 i publicly prophesied that there would be no pre-trib rapture in the year 2023
In 2024 i publicly prophesied that there would be no pre-trib rapture in the year 2024

Everyone is here, and no pre-trib rapture in October 2025 and yet the pre-tribbers are believing for a pre-trib rapture this month!!!

Prophecy 2025 = The Holy Spirit of Truth Says:
There will be no pre-trib rapture in October 2025 and there will be no pre-trib rapture in the year 2025.

Believe the words of God and you will know the TRUTH and the TRUTH will set you FREE = Matt ch24 , 1st & 2nd Thess, OT Daniel

Speaking of motivation = John 4:14

 

[ProverbsInPink]

#1 - Christians can be under a spell when they give themselves over to it.

#2 - i do not know if Doug is a 'christian' = only God knows

#3 - i never accused Doug of not being a christian!!! = stuff that in your pipe

There's no call for hostility. I merely asked for clarification regarding your remarks to Doug.

 

[David in NJ]

There's no call for hostility. I merely asked for clarification regarding your remarks to Doug.

The only "hostility" came from you??? = falsely accusing thru unsubstantiated questioning???

Well, let's just say i have experienced this type of questioning before and it was from impure hearts.

So forgive me if i am guarded, as it is beneficial for us both.

 

[David in NJ]

There's no call for hostility. I merely asked for clarification regarding your remarks to Doug.

Post 86 UPdated for you

 

[Muna]

The moment the Bride says 'Yes' to the Bridegroom, they are espoused to each other in Marriage.
When JESUS chose His Bride(HE is still choosing Her) the disciples said 'Yes' and followed Him in Marriage.

This Marriage becomes FINALIZED when the Groom takes His Bride into the Wedding Chamber and the clothes come off.
Face to Face
Skin to Skin
The Man in the Woman
God's Way for the Family

Likewise, when we go home to the LORD, we see Him "Face to Face" and "we know Him even as we are known"
This is in the SPIRIT where flesh is not permitted and no longer any type of procreation = Matthew 22:23-33

This seems rather carnal

 

[David in NJ]

This seems rather carnal

Everything I said in that post is 100% TRUTH beginning in Genesis and ending in Revelation

God created Adam & Eve in the flesh to procreate and God said: "It is Good"
Do not call evil(carnal) what God calls Good = It is by this Goodness of God that you came into the world = dwell on that!!!

Also, did you miss this MOST important part???

Likewise, when we go home to the LORD, we see Him "Face to Face" and "we know Him even as we are known"
This is in the SPIRIT where flesh is not permitted and no longer any type of procreation = Matthew 22:23-33

SHALOM

 

[David in NJ]

This seems rather carnal

Post 89 UPdated

 

[Muna]

Everything I said in that post is 100% TRUTH beginning in Genesis and ending in Revelation

God created Adam & Eve in the flesh to procreate and God said: "It is Good"
Do not call evil(carnal) what God calls Good = It is by this Goodness of God that you came into the world = dwell on that!!!

Also, did you miss this MOST important part???

Likewise, when we go home to the LORD, we see Him "Face to Face" and "we know Him even as we are known"
This is in the SPIRIT where flesh is not permitted and no longer any type of procreation = Matthew 22:23-33

SHALOM

I thought we would examine the scripture, but the whole, "His Bride into the Wedding Chamber and the clothes come off" thing seems a little weird, I mean, where does God speak like that in his word?

 

[ProverbsInPink]

The only "hostility" came from you??? = falsely accusing thru unsubstantiated questioning???

There was no hostility in my former post.

My question was substantiated by what you said here:
Doug,
You are under the spell of 'dispensationalism'

Escape with your life now = run to the LORD Jesus Christ and pray for your heart, soul and mind to love Him and His Truth

Well, let's just say i have experienced this type of questioning before and it was from impure hearts.

I'm not them.

It isn't beneficial to the spirit to live with an overlay of bad experiences that then predispose new encounters to being
I don't find judged as a repeat of that history.

So forgive me if i am guarded, as it is beneficial for us both.

I forgive you.

I don't believe bad manners are beneficial to an open discussion.

 

[David in NJ]

I thought we would examine the scripture, but the whole, "His Bride into the Wedding Chamber and the clothes come off" thing seems a little weird, I mean, where does God speak like that in his word?

God spoke these things directly beginning in Genesis chapters 1 and 2 and then in more detail thru Moses and the Law.

Tomorrow i will find the scripture(s) for the "wedding chamber" which was a tent set aside for the newlyweds.

Apostle Paul knowingly used the term "face to face" which is a reference to husband and wife intimacy.

SHALOM and Good Night

 

[Muna]

God spoke these things directly beginning in Genesis chapters 1 and 2 and then in more detail thru Moses and the Law.

Tomorrow i will find the scripture(s) for the "wedding chamber" which was a tent set aside for the newlyweds.

Apostle Paul knowingly used the term "face to face" which is a reference to husband and wife intimacy.

SHALOM and Good Night

Same thing as bridechamber?

Luke 5:34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them?

 

[David in NJ]

There was no hostility in my former post.

My question was substantiated by what you said here:
Doug,
You are under the spell of 'dispensationalism'

Escape with your life now = run to the LORD Jesus Christ and pray for your heart, soul and mind to love Him and His Truth



I'm not them.

It isn't beneficial to the spirit to live with an overlay of bad experiences that then predispose new encounters to being
I don't find judged as a repeat of that history.

I forgive you.

I don't believe bad manners are beneficial to an open discussion.

Bad manners is to accuse = that you did

Respectful/Good Manners = "David, do you think Doug is a christian or maybe not?

bad manners are not beneficial to an open discussion

Remember that the pharisees used bad manners when they questioned JESUS

It isn't beneficial to the spirit to live with an overlay of bad experiences that then predispose new encounters to being

Again, you followed a specific pattern that i am aware of on these forums = accusatory in questioning

Your error was to judge me and my comment to Doug "Escape with your life = run to the Lord"

You placed your negative on my positive and Godly exhortation to Doug

Are we ever to stop running to the LORD???
i do everday

 

[Muna]

I don't believe bad manners are beneficial to an open discussion.

We didnt start off good, but we didnt tell one another to stuff our things in our pipes.
(Being a woman, I don't really have a pipe myself)
I would bet yours is pink if you have one

 

[David in NJ]

Same thing as bridechamber?

Luke 5:34 And he said unto them, Can ye make the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them?

That is one of them and a Beautiful One

 

[David in NJ]

We didnt start off good, but we didnt tell one another to stuff our things in our pipes.
(Being a woman, I don't really have a pipe myself)
I would bet yours is pink if you have one

that is how you tell someone they were not respectful

 

[Muna]

That is one of them and a Beautiful One

Notice how they arent tearing one anothers clothes off David!

 

[David in NJ]

Notice how they arent tearing one anothers clothes off David!

Why would you say that?