WHAT IS MEANT IN HEBREWS SAYING THERE IS NO MORE SACRIFICE FOR SINS?

[Charlie24]

It also speaks of in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,

As far as unbelief goes Hebrews warns

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

And in respects to unbelief here Paul says,

Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

David to Solomon about the LORD casting off forever those who forsake him.

1 Ch 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind:
for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee;
but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.

Again, he that searches the hearts, and so it says, "take heed" here in this instance concerning a heart of unbelief

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

Jesus does say these believe for awhile

Luke 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

And you can back up and bring in the root in Romans also, and see the unbelief there also

Romans 11;7 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Romans 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Romans 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

I've seen Atheists repent in tears and become the strongest believers I've ever seen.

I've never seen a OSAS believer change his mind.

I'm sure it's happened somewhere, but I have personally never seen it.

 

[Muna]

It also speaks of in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,

As far as unbelief goes Hebrews warns

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

And in respects to unbelief here Paul says,

Romans 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

David to Solomon about the LORD casting off forever those who forsake him.

1 Ch 28:9 And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind:
for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee;
but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.

Again, he that searches the hearts, and so it says, "take heed" here in this instance concerning a heart of unbelief

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

Jesus does say these believe for awhile

Luke 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

And you can back up and bring in the root in Romans also, and see the unbelief there also

Romans 11;7 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

Romans 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.

Romans 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

Romans 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

Romans 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.

Here is another picture of temptation and the hardening of ones hearts

Heb 3:8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:

Which is where we pull "the evil heart of unbelief" verse from

Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

Next verse, which is a heart hardened through the deceitfulness of sin

Heb 3:13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

Same thing, " which for a while believe (but the heart hardens through the deceitfulness of sin) and in time of temptation fall away:

Heb 3:17 But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?

Which is an example of unbelief which comes out of a time of temptation

Heb 3:18 And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?

Heb 3:19 So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.

Heb 4:11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.

And then if we bring this same example back to Luke 8:13 in the context belief, and a time of temptation it says likewise

Luke 8:13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root,
which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

I think they confirm, that these heard, they received it with joy (as we all did) as Paul speaks of here

1 Thes 1:6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost

Its the affliction part in Thes 1:6 that seems to be the part they are offended at here

Mark 4:16 And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;

Mark 4:17 And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

Appears to be a shallow faith, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

 

[Muna]

I think I am done, but I think @Charlie24 is correct this believe for awhile thing.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

let the Scripture do the arguing!

You mean for them!: "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge
of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins," (Hebrews 10:26 AV), means
Exactly What It Says, To whom God Addressed It? . . . ↑ . ↑ ✓

What does that have to do with us, In the Body Of Christ, where there "...is no Jew..."?:

To whom These Apply? Because Of God's ALL-Sufficient BLOOD!:

God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST
+ Update
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God's Eternal Assurance

+ { Correct = Never "argue With God" = NEVER changing my mind!! }

God's Eternal Life Insurance

Amen.

 

[Muna]

#1 - This was specifically addressed to male/female procreation = approved and Blessed by God = be fruitful and multiply
There is only one way, on earth, by which God created the multiplication of "man created in the image of God" = male/female

#2 - What do we shed when we leave this earth? = what comes off and what goes on?

I missed this, and then when I read it I am lost on what you are trying to say.

Scripture works best for me if ever you have one

 

[David in NJ]

I missed this, and then when I read it I am lost on what you are trying to say.

Scripture works best for me if ever you have one

Point #1 = Genesis chapters 1 and 2

Point #2 = 2 Peter 1:12-15 , 2 Corinthians 5:1-8

 

[ProverbsInPink]

@amigo de christo
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I like that verse. Its focus is on belief. While it doesn't say if we are not baptized we are also condemned.

 

[JLB]

A CHRISTIAN is "one with God".

This means they are born again into God., as this is what it means to possess the "NEW BIRTH".

So, a person does not cause this, and they cannot end it.

You can't stop being Born again., as this is an Eternal situation.




Your verse does not say that if you have a heart of unbelief, you lost your salvation.
It just warns you not to do it.
Because if you do it, you have "fallen from Grace" and that means your faith is ruined, and your walk of faith is ruined, but your Salvation is not effected.



Once again.........this person has no '""""" ROOT."""""""

And who is the ROOT ??

Isaiah, 11.....>"The ROOT of Jessie" is JESUS........so this person is not born again.....they have no JESUS IN THEM

‘Brother,

Do you believe a person must continue to believe if they expect to continue to be saved?


Yes ?

No?

 

[Muna]

Point #1 = Genesis chapters 1 and 2

Point #2 = 2 Peter 1:12-15 , 2 Corinthians 5:1-8

Why not lay it out, why would you make me fetch your stuff?

 

[JLB]

To "believe in Vain" means that you didn't truly believe, you just understood the concept.

‘Totally and completely false.

That isn’t scriptural. That comes from a false belief system programmed by Calvinism.


Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 1 Corinthians 15:1-2

• by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain.
  

The condition for a person to continue, present tense salvation, is to continue to believe.


If a person no longer believes they are no longer saved.

 

[marks]

Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 1 Corinthians 15:1-2

If you've believed in vain, that is, in a meaningless and empty way, then you won't hold fast to Paul's preaching.

Don't be deceived, an empty belief is not saving faith, and you fall away,

1 John 2:19 KJV
They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

Much love!

 

[shepherdsword]

Hebrews 10:26 is not speaking about us. The book of Hebrews is written about believing Israel facing persecution

That's no excuse not to answer the question

 

[marks]

Why not lay it out, why would you make me fetch your stuff?

I find a great deal of the time that when someone only posts a reference, and not the actual passage quotation, it's because the verse itself doesn't say what the person is asserting.

Much love!

 

[Doug]

Have you ever sinned when you knew you were sinning?

Why ask this?

 

[marks]

There was no sacrifice offered for one of the congregation, or a stranger among them, to atone for willful sin.

Exodus 22:1 KJV
If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.

There are a number of related conditions in this chapter.

Much love!

 

[Muna]

I find a great deal of the time that when someone only posts a reference, and not the actual passage quotation, it's because the verse itself doesn't say what the person is asserting.

Much love!

You nailed it! I find that is typical too.

I am over here cutting up my ginger harvest while making 6 quiches (burned 2 pie shells) because I stink at multitasking between throwing them into oven I am digging into the scriptures for my own posts and I get the two liners which basically tell me I need to fetch other folks verses (PinkProverbs knows what I am talking bout)

 

[Muna]

Exodus 22:1 KJV
If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.

There are a number of related conditions in this chapter.

Much love!

Luke 19:8 And Zacchaeus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.


2 Sam 12:2 And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.

 

[Doug]

Exodus 22:1 KJV
If a man shall steal an ox, or a sheep, and kill it, or sell it; he shall restore five oxen for an ox, and four sheep for a sheep.

There are a number of related conditions in this chapter.

Much love!

Ok
I am not sure this would be dealing with willful sin
God dealt with property rights as well

 

[Behold]

Do you believe a person must continue to believe if they expect to continue to be saved?

Once God has accepted a person's Faith, then its accepted for eternity.

Salvaiton is NOT......>"i have to keep giving God my Faith so that i keep myself saved.".

Salvation is......our "Faith is counted by God as Righteousness".

Notice...

"Abraham BELIEVED God, and IT I(His FAITH) , was Accpeted by God as (imputed) Righteousness".

He didnt wake up the next day and have to prove He still had Faith, as God had already accepted His Faith the day before when He Gave Abraham Righteousness.


Notice : We are saved by God, through faith on that DAY of our Salvation.
Its done.
Salvation happens INSTANTLY.......... we are born again INSTANTLY... we are forgiven all sin INSTANTLY.
We become a CHRISTian INSTANTLY because God has accepted our FAITH.

= Faith is not the Savior.
God is the Savior.........and He saves us through our Faith ONE TIME.and its DONE.....we received "The Gift of Salvation".
We are not saved over and over........We are saved once, as proven by being Born again ONCE, which proves that God has accpeted our Faith, already.

Now, if you are trying to hold unto your faith to try to stay saved, then you don't understand SALVATION.

So...Don't put your faith in faith to save you........Put your Faith in JESUS THE Savior.

Now, Reader, if you still can't get it.
Think of it like this..

Did Faith die on The Cross for your sin?
Did water baptism die on The Cross for your sin?

If they did, then trust in faith and water baptism.....but if JESUS died on The Cross to forgive your sin.. then put your Trust there, as HE is the Savior, not faith and not water baptism.

 

[David in NJ]

Why not lay it out, why would you make me fetch your stuff?

Because you will strengthen spiritual muscles in your heart and mind when "you seek TRUTH" = the Word that was God in the Beginning"