Can one know zero scripture and be saved?

[NotTheRock]

I believe so. How about you?

 

[Davy]

Maybe in Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect. But just being told that all one need do is believe on Jesus Christ and not then be aware of the coming "strong delusion" by Satan upon the whole world at the end... well, those believers not aware of that will be in terrible danger of being deceived.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Maybe in Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect. But just being told that all one need do is believe on Jesus Christ and not then be aware of the coming "strong delusion" by Satan upon the whole world at the end... well, those believers not aware of that will be in terrible danger of being deceived.

Why not.
There was no Bible in the time of the early church. The Apostles taught of Jesus verbally. They didn't hand out Bibles.

The Spirit calls us to Salvation.

I think that's what blocks a lot of people from knowing the full of Holy Spirit.

They're fixated on believing by the book. They lose the essence of God by thinking they have to obey the writings of men.

 

[Davy]

Why not.
There was no Bible in the time of the early church. The Apostles taught of Jesus verbally. They didn't hand out Bibles.

The Spirit calls us to Salvation.

I think that's what blocks a lot of people from knowing the full of Holy Spirit.

They're fixated on believing by the book. They lose the essence of God by thinking they have to obey the writings of men.

So you're just another who isn't aware of the coming false-Messiah per God's Word for the end of days.

Well, you stay with that denial, and remain Biblically ignorant of it, kind of like those outside Noah's ark when the flood waters came.

Or...

You can get down to study in God's Word more for yourself, and learn what is expected of you by Lord Jesus in case you find yourself in the "great tribulation" time at the end. And He did give His servants the SIGNS to be watching at the end, so you can't make excuses against that.

 

[Davy]

Why not.
There was no Bible in the time of the early church. The Apostles taught of Jesus verbally. They didn't hand out Bibles.

The Spirit calls us to Salvation.

I think that's what blocks a lot of people from knowing the full of Holy Spirit.

They're fixated on believing by the book. They lose the essence of God by thinking they have to obey the writings of men.

Oh, and by the way. Going around in circles with Salvation speech philosophy is fine for the non-believer who has yet to hear of The Gospel. But for those in Christ, we are supposed to be prepared per God's Word about the coming events for the end of this world leading up to Christ's future return. It's so we won't be deceived.

Now the majority here show they are able to open up their Bible and do real Bible study for themselves, since they are able to come here and type and write on a forum. So those have no excuse for just being a revolving door with men's doctrines while disregarding the end time warnings Lord Jesus and His Apostles gave us about the times were are now in.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Oh, and by the way. Going around in circles with Salvation speech philosophy is fine for the non-believer who has yet to hear of The Gospel. But for those in Christ, we are supposed to be prepared per God's Word about the coming events for the end of this world leading up to Christ's future return. It's so we won't be deceived.

Now the majority here show they are able to open up their Bible and do real Bible study for themselves, since they are able to come here and type and write on a forum. So those have no excuse for just being a revolving door with men's doctrines while disregarding the end time warnings Lord Jesus and His Apostles gave us about the times were are now in.

No worry there.

When someone insists they are not eternally irrevocably Saved and have Eternal Life in Christ, their future is whatever else they think they can choose to make it in and if themselves.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

So you're just another who isn't aware of the coming false-Messiah per God's Word for the end of days.

Well, you stay with that denial, and remain Biblically ignorant of it, kind of like those outside Noah's ark when the flood waters came.

Or...

You can get down to study in God's Word more for yourself, and learn what is expected of you by Lord Jesus in case you find yourself in the "great tribulation" time at the end. And He did give His servants the SIGNS to be watching at the end, so you can't make excuses against that.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Nothing I said could lead someone in the right frame of mind to arrive at your conclusion.

 

[Davy]

No worry there.

When someone insists they are not eternally irrevocably Saved and have Eternal Life in Christ, their future is whatever else they think they can choose to make it in and if themselves.

You mean like the "five foolish virgins" of Matthew 25 which Jesus showed He will shut the door on?

What about the believers on Him that had many wonderful works in His Name, but were guilty of "iniquity", and Jesus shut the door on them too? (Matt.7).

It appears more like some that 'think'... they are already saved, might be in for a huge surprise when Lord Jesus does appear in our near future.

 

[Davy]

You don't know what you're talking about.

Nothing I said could lead someone in the right frame of mind to arrive at your conclusion.

Oh but I DO... know exactly what I am talking about, or what God's Word is talking about regarding such things as how MANY WILL BE DECEIVED AT THE END BY THE COMING FALSE-MESSIAH.

2 Thess 2:1-4
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV

What event do you really... think man's FALSE PRE-TRIB RAPTURE is designed for?? Those deceived on that false doctrine from the devil have even been told of the two in the field, they will be the 1st ones TAKEN! when Lord Jesus showed at the end of Luke 17 and Matt.24:28 that those are taken to where the fowls will be that eat on a dead "carcase".

 

[ScottA]

I believe so. How about you?

Absolutely!

All who are born into this world hold within their makeup the image of God than to believe. It actually takes a greater effort to deny there is a God. Whoever is not against God is for Him, regardless of their place in this world--and that smallest of seeds germinates and grows by God unto salvation.

Which does beg the question: Is believing in the coming, death, and resurrection of Christ required for salvation? The answer is: Whoever believes in God, believes in Christ also, for they are One.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Oh but I DO... know exactly what I am talking about, or what God's Word is talking about regarding such things as how MANY WILL BE DECEIVED AT THE END BY THE COMING FALSE-MESSIAH.

2 Thess 2:1-4
2 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
KJV

What event do you really... think man's FALSE PRE-TRIB RAPTURE is designed for?? Those deceived on that false doctrine from the devil have even been told of the two in the field, they will be the 1st ones TAKEN! when Lord Jesus showed at the end of Luke 17 and Matt.24:28 that those are taken to where the fowls will be that eat on a dead "carcase".

You do know what you're talking about. The false Messiah teaching is that what has deceives you in thinking you can loose salvation. Jesus died to bring conditional salvation. And of course the irrevocable seal of the Holy Spirit isn't a factor or else the rest of the false doctrine wouldn't exist.

So yes,you and those who think eternal salvation,life,is man made are false.
You're so bold as to contradict what is written on the page when insisting that's all man made.

For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.


All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out.


I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.



Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.



And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life. I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.


I perceived that whatever God does endures forever; nothing can be added to it, nor anything taken from it. God has done it, so that people fear before him.


For by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.

What Does the Bible Say About Eternal Salvation?

Bible verses about Eternal Salvation

www.openbible.info

 

[Davy]

You do know what you're talking about. The false Messiah teaching is that what has deceives you in thinking you can loose salvation. Jesus died to bring conditional salvation. And of course the irrevocable seal of the Holy Spirit isn't a factor or else the rest of the false doctrine wouldn't exist.

So yes,you and those who think eternal salvation,life,is man made are false.
You're so bold as to contradict what is written on the page when insisting that's all man made.
....

Same old story by the 'deceived', your response is.

You don't know any more of what is coming in our near future than a man in the moon, simply because you show you don't even know about the coming false-Messiah to Jerusalem at the end of this world who will play The Christ to deceive the whole world, especially those not aware in Christ's Church.

 

[Angelina]

You don't need to know scripture to be saved but you certainly need the gospel message preached to you before you can make that choice.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Same old story by the 'deceived', your response is.

Yoda!

 

[Jay Ross]

You don't need to know scripture to be saved but you certainly need the gospel message preached to you before you can make that choice.

Simply put, the measure of the extent of the gospel that is needed is just, "Jesus is the Son of God."

Simply believing this truth is all that is needed to gain everlasting life.

The thief on the cross next to Christ, what was the extent of the gospel message that was preached to him? Was he baptised at all?

Was not his confession, just this: -

Luke 23:39-43: - 39 Then one of the criminals who were hanged blasphemed Him, saying, "If You are the Christ, save Yourself and us."​

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40 But the other, answering, rebuked him, saying, "Do you not even fear God, seeing you are under the same condemnation? 41 And we indeed justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds; but this Man has done nothing wrong." 42 Then he said to Jesus, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom."​

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43 And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."​

NKJV​