Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord.

[Marvelloustime]

Too many have tasted the wrong rainbow . very diverse , very strange indeed .
As korans and budda statues are now kissed
as abominatoins of men and of women now embraced .
EVIL called GOOD and GOOD called evil
as the very words of GOD are cast behind them in favor of the god of allowance of sins . OH yeah we got problems all right
But as usual the only doctrine they preach at me is , HEY HATER dont judge .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

So in levitcus God said man shall not lie with man .
So would you now say man can lie with man . SEE the point yet .
GOD is not going to change his mind about what is sin .
And while I DO NOT LOOK to the law to justify myself , HEAR THIS NEXT PART REAL CLEARLY ,
I DONT turn Christ into a minstir of sin . Love fullfills , it does not trangress .
SOMETHING i think , wait I KNOW , this generation clearly seems to miss .
GOD is not all of a sudden going to now give us license to do the very T HING
HE is against . and how i advise all to never heed men who allow such things to be done
using the name of grace , freedom or liberty , the NAME of JESUS to comitt such abominations .
The old me used to live in sin and I as many today , could even lip the name of JESUS
while doing so . But i was the spawn of satan who did nothing but cover my sins , justifying them
and using the NAME of A HOLY GOD and OF HIS CHRIST to do so . JUST LIKE a overwhemling majority
of even christendom does today . DO keep in mind i said I WAS the spawn of satan .
SO if i dont make excuses for the old me , I WONT be making excuses for the many in christendom
who are still as t he old me , the old man , USING the prescious name of JESUS to justify sins .
HOW DARE we do such a thing . How deadly for us if we do such a thing .
This is a reminder , dont get the hackles raised . Just a reminder .
and i know all about meats , drinks and days . BUT SIN , now that is STILL SIN .

@amigo de christo

 

[Lizbeth]

If you think you did not believe in your heart as a Roman Catholic, it does not mean that no other Roman Catholic does.

People can be just cultural Christians in all kinds of churches. And sincere, too.

You can't believe in your heart except the Lord GIVE you a new/renewed heart which believes....it is a work of His Spirit, not of rituals and ceremonies which are just lifeless outward performances....forms of Godliness but denying the power (from such we are to turn away). Being born of the Spirit is very real....it is a life changing miracle, not theoretical. Unfortunately Catholicism preaches/teaches those lifeless outward forms, not the power of God unto salvation. How could people accepting, believing and under the sway of those lies be born of the Spirit? That is not the gospel, no matter how many times they mix the name of Jesus into it. It is a facsimile invented by the carnal mind of men....aka a counterfeit of the true gospel.

 

[amigo de christo]

You can't believe in your heart except the Lord GIVE you a new/renewed heart which believes....it is a work of His Spirit, not of rituals and ceremonies which are just lifeless outward performances....forms of Godliness but denying the power (from such we are to turn away). Being born of the Spirit is very real....it is a life changing miracle, not theoretical. Unfortunately Catholicism preaches/teaches those lifeless outward forms, not the power of God unto salvation. How could people accepting, believing and under the sway of those lies be born of the Spirit? That is not the gospel, no matter how many times they mix the name of Jesus into it. It is a facsimile invented by the carnal mind of men....aka a counterfeit of the true gospel.

I tell us all that many have already bought into
this inclusivity dear sister . this ecumenical unity .
And its getting real easy to spot it because its grown so much in infleuence now .
It will not be long before the final solution is ENFORCED .
I said enforced because its already been sold , just not yet enforced .
what will soon be the only thing that matters to the many in christendom
and the false religoins and even athiests
IS not what religoin one was raised in
not what one beleives
BUT is one all inclusive . the war will be between what THEY cliam is extremists and dangerous .
And guess who gonna be included on that list . not just isis , not just the extreme dangerous ones
in other religoins
BUT THE ACTUAL TRUE SHEEP sister . we already being lumped into the same category and being seen
as potentially being just as dangerous .
THEY programmed all religoins they infiltrated To merge and to see anything fundamental as a potential threat .
THEY knew how to use the bad seeds too .
But the real goal was always of satan . AND we both k now WHO he hates above all . THOSE WHO KNOW THE TRUTH
and do all to preach that T RUTH to others so as others can be saved .

 

[amigo de christo]

You can't believe in your heart except the Lord GIVE you a new/renewed heart which believes....it is a work of His Spirit, not of rituals and ceremonies which are just lifeless outward performances....forms of Godliness but denying the power (from such we are to turn away). Being born of the Spirit is very real....it is a life changing miracle, not theoretical. Unfortunately Catholicism preaches/teaches those lifeless outward forms, not the power of God unto salvation. How could people accepting, believing and under the sway of those lies be born of the Spirit? That is not the gospel, no matter how many times they mix the name of Jesus into it. It is a facsimile invented by the carnal mind of men....aka a counterfeit of the true gospel.

Trench time dear sister . The LORD is our hope and our salvation .
This life is but a vapor dear sister . it comes and then is gone .
But unto all who do BELEIVE JESUS THE CHRIST they shall never die . To the LORD be the glory
to the LORD be the praise .

 

[Chrysostomos]

I know that most Catholics are not saved.....their belief is their own, not of God's spirit. I grew up Catholic and once the Lord got hold of me by His Spirit with faith not of my own, but was/is of His Spirit, my eyes were opened and I knew the difference. Even then I wasn't quite sure how to think of the Catholic church....whether to regard it as being in fact "Christian with error", I just didn't know how to think of it in a general sense, other than recognizing that there was no life there and much sin there, and to avoid it. Not long ago the Lord gave me a download from heaven, showing me unequivocably that the spirit ruling that institution is not His Spirit, but another. He immediately then went on to show me this wisdom, that mixture is unequivocably not of Him, but is the unclean thing that we need to "come out of" lest we be involved with her sins (held partially responsible for) and partake of her plagues/judgments. This unfortunately applies to large swaths of the protestant realm too these days....they are falling away. As Christosomos likes to quote that 2 Chron 19 scripture...that would apply to "loving and helping" such entities as the Catholic institution too, I'm afraid. "If ye have not the Spirit ye are none of His", the apostle Paul wrote. "Ye MUST be born again", Jesus said. That means to be begotten of His Spirit... a new spiritual birth.

Mere mental belief of the carnal mind and using His name and seeking to establish one's own righteousness, is not what saves one. It is the power of God that saves a soul....His Spirit taking up residence in the person. We need to understand what GOD means in different places in scripture by "loving" or "hating". People can quote scripture and call themselves Christian all the day long and say they love Jesus and try to follow rules, but they can still "hate" the true Christ and gospel by simply rejecting and not espousing it. Sometimes by "loving or hating" in scripture it is talking about hating the error and not choosing that person, or loving someone in the sense of choosing them. We need to reject (hate) what is of mixture and choose (love) what is pure, right and true, as the Lord does. So we must not love and support Catholicism or Talmudic Judaism.....or false fallen protestantism either......but we can and should love the individual souls who are captive of those things in the sense of doing good to them and try to reach them with the truth.

Your hypocrisy is undeniable, and your latest post proves it.

Regarding Talmudic Jews:
You’ve repeatedly urged “love and don’t judge” for Jews, despite their rejection of Christ (99.7%, CBS/Pew 2025) and the Talmud’s blasphemies (Sanhedrin 43a, 107b).
You’ve used:

- The Prodigal Son analogy to call them “lost souls” deserving love, not judgment.
- The Good Samaritan parable to justify aiding them.
- “Love your enemies” (Matthew 5:44) to excuse their Christ-rejecting Third Temple push .

Regarding Catholics:
You viciously attack them, saying:

- “Catholicism is NOT the Christianity that Jesus and the apostles brought us… a lying counterfeit… ruled by another spirit, not the Spirit of God”.
- “Most Catholics are not saved… their belief is not of God’s Spirit”.
- “No life there, much sin there… mixture is unequivocally not of Him”.
You liked Brakelite’s claim that the Pope is the Antichrist and the Catholic Church is “satanically deceptive”.

You condemn the Catholic Church based solely on your claim of a “download from heaven,” asserting it’s ruled by a demonic spirit.

In Orthodoxy, this is called "prelest"—a term with no exact English equivalent, as it carries a unique Orthodox theological context.
"Prelest" is spiritual delusion, where someone, often through pride or demonic deception, mistakes lies for truth, believing their “revelations” (like your “Holy Spirit told me”) are from God, despite contradicting Scripture and Church teaching. Those in "prelest" see themselves as specially spiritual but are deceived, losing humility and Christ’s true doctrine.

You excuse Talmudic Jews who blaspheme Christ while demonizing Catholics who confess Jesus, the Trinity, and the Resurrection.

You’ve chosen darkness with your prelest-driven, Satanic double standards.

P.S. Even the Orthodox Church doesn’t make such categorical statements about Catholics. Moreover, economia in Orthodoxy allows recognition of Catholic baptism (performed in the name of the Trinity) without re-baptism upon conversion (through chrismation).
Confession and communion by Orthodox in Catholic churches are generally not permitted, but in exceptional cases (e.g., no access to an Orthodox church), a bishop may allow communion in a Catholic church. Thus, despite dogmatic differences, the Orthodox Church acknowledges that grace and gifts of the Holy Spirit are present in Catholicism.

 

[Chrysostomos]

You just have no ears to hear what I've been saying. I certainly don't agree with believers having anything to do with that Temple....it's going to be very deceptive and spiritually seductive, as the Lord was gracious to show me. Maybe my previous post this morning will help to clarify some things....interesting that I posted it before reading any other comments here....yet it lines up with and touches on things that others are mentioning. Hopefully I wasn't too rambly though.

One advantage of a forum is that all moves are recorded, so we can see exactly what you’ve written.
Your hypocrisy is blatant: you claim “Holy Spirit revelation” to brand Catholics a “lying counterfeit” ruled by a “demonic spirit”, while preaching “love and don’t judge” for atheist Jews and Talmudic blasphemers, citing the same “Spirit”.

Due to historical, economic, and political reasons, I’ve spent much of my life working and living in Western countries dominated by Catholicism and Protestantism, where Orthodox churches are scarce. As I mentioned, Orthodox economia allows confession and communion in Catholic churches in exceptional cases (e.g., no Orthodox church nearby). I’ve attended Catholic services, openly stating I’m Orthodox and have no nearby church. Never once was I refused. No issues, no judgment—just welcome.

But because of people like you, I’d never step into a Protestant church, even if it’s the only one in town. I’d drive to another city, another state, or fly to an Orthodox country before setting foot in one. Every Protestant church is like Russian roulette—you never know what’s coming. One minute you’re a “pagan,” the next “unspiritual,” or accused of antisemitism.

You and your kind scream loudest about “love,” “mercy,” and “forgiveness,” but in reality, you’re viciously intolerant of anyone who doesn’t match your beliefs 100%.

Your only argument? “The Spirit told me your (Catholic or Orthodox) church is led by Satan.”
You claim ultimate truth—“the Spirit said so”—demanding agreement or branding us blind, deaf, and unspiritual.

You’re not just hypocritical—you’re maliciously intolerant.

 

[Lizbeth]

Oh yes, it was the Lord who revealed to me that the ruling spirit of the Catholic church is not His Spirit. Don't you know that His sheep know His voice?

2Co 11:1-4

Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Catholicism and Orthodox are deceptions and departures from the simplicity of Christ. But I am not expecting you to understand at all. You would need to first of all be born of Him and receive His Spirit, because God's truth must be spiritually discerned.

 

[HealthyShape]

Catholicism and Orthodox are deceptions and departures from the simplicity of Christ. But I am not expecting you to understand at all. You would need to first of all be born of Him and receive His Spirit, because God's truth must be spiritually discerned.

People do not need to be born of God or have His Spirit to understand that Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity have many historical traditions and practices not existent in the first church. All people can understand such statement.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Funny how a group of people (Catholics) who claim to be Christian will pull out all the stops to try and convince a non-Catholic who actually has met the Lord and been born again, that they are mistaken and they better drop their faith. LOL....except that it isn't funny where someone's eternal destiny is at stake. Enemies of the gospel and of the cross, I would call that regardless of how they might talk about the death and resurrection of Jesus. Under a spirit that is not God's. Nevertheless it is not for me to judge (in the sense of condemn) individual souls....but we sure do need to discern.

Your grotesque double standards: You claim “discernment” when you judge Catholics—who confess Jesus as Lord, the Trinity, and the Resurrection—as demonic enemies of the gospel, but you forbid judgment of Jews who curse Christ and deny His Messiahship. Your “discernment” is just a fancy word for condemnation of one group while excusing another’s blasphemy. You lean on a supposed “download from heaven” to demonize Catholics, yet cite the same “Holy Spirit” to coddle Talmudists pushing an anti-Christ agenda

By "balance" I am talking about reminding people not to be anti-semitic. Your posts sometimes sound rather harsh to my ears and I'm concerned about the potential for anti-semitism. I am just trying to balance the things you are saying with reminders that we as Christians should have love for the Jews and not sit in judgment over them.

Woe to you, hypocrites!

 

[Chrysostomos]

People do not need to be born of God or have His Spirit to understand that Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity have many historical traditions and practices not existent in the first church. All people can understand such statement.

Protestants often point out that Catholic and Orthodox traditions include practices absent in the early Church, and that’s true. But let’s be clear: Protestants rely on developments that didn’t exist in the first century either, just as much as anyone else.

The Bible canon wasn’t finalized until the late 4th century. The Council of Rome in 382 AD, under Pope Damasus I, drafted a list including the deuterocanonical books and the 27 New Testament books. The Councils of Hippo (393 AD) and Carthage (397 AD) confirmed this Catholic canon of 46 Old Testament and 27 New Testament books. Protestants accept the 27-book New Testament from these Catholic councils but reject the deuterocanonical books, selectively using the work of the very Church they critique.

Then there are the creeds. The Nicene Creed (325 AD, refined in 381 AD) and the Apostles’ Creed (formalized in the 4th–5th centuries) didn’t exist in the first three centuries. Yet, many Protestants—Lutherans, Anglicans, and others—recite them in worship or use them as doctrinal foundations. These are products of later Church councils, not the apostolic era.

Criticizing Catholics and Orthodox for post-early Church additions while standing on the same late foundations—canon and creeds—is inconsistent. It’s time to acknowledge that Protestantism, too, rests on traditions built long after the first century.

 

[Chrysostomos]

Oh yes, it was the Lord who revealed to me that the ruling spirit of the Catholic church is not His Spirit. Don't you know that His sheep know His voice?

2Co 11:1-4

Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Catholicism and Orthodox are deceptions and departures from the simplicity of Christ. But I am not expecting you to understand at all. You would need to first of all be born of Him and receive His Spirit, because God's truth must be spiritually discerned.

You quote 2 Corinthians 11:1–4 to slam Catholics as “deceptions” led by “another spirit,” but that letter was included in the Bible canon at the Council of Carthage in 397 AD—a Catholic council. Without it, you’d have no Scripture to fling at anyone. So what are you babbling about? You lean on a Catholic decision to demonize Catholics?

 

[amigo de christo]

Oh yes, it was the Lord who revealed to me that the ruling spirit of the Catholic church is not His Spirit. Don't you know that His sheep know His voice?

2Co 11:1-4

Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Catholicism and Orthodox are deceptions and departures from the simplicity of Christ. But I am not expecting you to understand at all. You would need to first of all be born of Him and receive His Spirit, because God's truth must be spiritually discerned.

When one touches the golden bull of another , the very apple of their eye
they will rage and make war with thee .
Stand firm in the LORD dear sister . The cry of the ecumenial harlot has grown massive .
SHE means to have her unity at all costs . And her children will do her bidding .
But we shall not sit under another spirit .

 

[Marvelloustime]

When one touches the golden bull of another , the very apple of their eye
they will rage and make war with thee .
Stand firm in the LORD dear sister . The cry of the ecumenial harlot has grown massive .
SHE means to have her unity at all costs . And her children will do her bidding .
But we shall not sit under another spirit .

@amigo de christo

 

[amigo de christo]

Oh yes, it was the Lord who revealed to me that the ruling spirit of the Catholic church is not His Spirit. Don't you know that His sheep know His voice?

2Co 11:1-4

Would to God ye could bear with me a little in my folly: and indeed bear with me.

For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.

But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.

Catholicism and Orthodox are deceptions and departures from the simplicity of Christ. But I am not expecting you to understand at all. You would need to first of all be born of Him and receive His Spirit, because God's truth must be spiritually discerned.

Remember when i said that those who accuse us are the ones actually guilty of the very thing they accuse us .
For example .
I seem to notice non stop his calling you a hyprocrite . Just cause you made and even dared to make mention
of the unholy harlot .
HOWEVER , HE non stop has been coming on
hollering all h e had to about the jews . AINT that something sister .
You , me and others , WE SHOULD THANK GOD daily for pulling us out of false systems of men .
I will not , and may i never , sit under such a place as that harlot or her prostestant daughters
who do her work and her bidding . WE expose places like that. WE DO so for the sakes of all trapped in them
We do as we do for the sake of the o thers . Deadly dangerous places will not help but rather lead to their destuction .

 

[Chrysostomos]

Incorrect my friend . She has warned against all as have i myself .
WE dont pick and choose which shade of darkness to sit under .
We sit under no darkness and expose the works of darkness and all places which lead this people
and have led thier people into even greater darkness .
No one gets coddled in their sin on t his watch .
We do not pick either side of politicans
we do not pick either the RCC or the protestant
WE choose JESUS CHRIST and shall do what we can by grace to help who we can . WHICH sure does
include warning and correction .

It seems you only like her posts without reading them.
I read them.
So I know exactly what she writes, without your explanations.

 

[Lizbeth]

People do not need to be born of God or have His Spirit to understand that Catholicism and Orthodox Christianity have many historical traditions and practices not existent in the first church. All people can understand such statement.

Unfortunately deception is a real thing and it blinds people to the truth. And then they will distort and twist all kinds of things to support their deception.

 

[amigo de christo]

It seems you only like her posts without reading them.
I read them.
So I know exactly what she writes, without your explanations.

Friend
what she wrote about what she recieved of the LORD , IS Correct .
I myself was shown these things .
Nobody here is condemning any one . We are trying to only help those
who are trapped in such places . many have come out by the grace of GOD .
Would you want a person to sit under those who , though they can lip some t ruths , YET decieved and decieve this people .
OF course you would not .
Look just because mormons , jw , sda , scores of even the protesetant realm and the RCC
can lip verbatum the gospel , It darn sure dont mean they follow HIM or sadly even know him .
Look at the prosperity realm .
In fact look at myself in times past . I TOO once could quoate the gospel and did cliam to beleive,
YET WALKED IN DARKNESS and loved my sin .
SO we need to stop with the unifying message to just sit with just anyone cause their church can quoate stuff .
THE DEVIL can quoate things .
The key is DO THEY ACTUALLY BOTH claim to beleive the gospel AND actually do follow HIM .
cause many DO NOT . and worse
NOW yalls beloved RCC , with more and more of her prostestant daughters
preach UNBELEIF claoked as BELEIF . they e ven preach anotehr gospel now
and all the while cliam to beleive the gospel . We cant preach BOTH . either WE BELEIVE the gospel
that one MUST BELEIVE to be saved , or we only beleive UNBELEIF as muslims and othe rreligoins
are accepted . Sorry but it cant be b oth . AND that is exactly what a large number are now trying to teach us .
A FAT LIE . SO COME OUT OF THE HARLOTS den and any place that works her ecumincal cup of whoredome.

 

[amigo de christo]

It seems you only like her posts without reading them.
I read them.
So I know exactly what she writes, without your explanations.

You make the mistake of thinking just because one warns of such places
means they condemn them .
NOPE . We are just by the grace of GOD doing all to help them , to warn them
and to remind them of the true faith and to be in the scriptures to learn .
The RCC is deadly dangerous as sadly are many in the protestant realm .
If only you knew from whence the lie came to merge the denomiatoins and even the false relgions with
Came from , YOU had never defended such a place .
The very lie of anti christ has come largely now from WITHIN to remold the churches and even the false religoins
from within . But not to CHRIST , NO sir , but to that which is the plan of many anti christs .
To the lost it sounds as love
it sounds as caring , it sounds as a means to attain world peace n safety .
but to the sheep THEY SEE THE LIE and they see its but death leading all to the second death .
Satan dont come in with big raging horns and a wicked set of teeth to decieve .
HE comes as one who desires ONLY SUCH GOOD for humanity . BUT TRULY HE DESIRES the death OF US ALL .
And he knows how to allure men through the flesh and to feed their lusts and pride . HE is a liar and a flesh feeder .

 

[amigo de christo]

Unfortunately deception is a real thing and it blinds people to the truth. And then they will distort and twist all kinds of things to support their deception.

and as peter once wrote
They twist the scips unto their OWN destruction .
For a man will always cling to what man loveth
and he will twist and mold and remold whatever is in the way of HIS true hearts desire
into what FITS WITH his own hearts desire .
For in the heart of man lies wickedness and evil thoughts
But the sheep will not heed them . FOR GOD has changed the heart of the sheep
and given us the desires that please HIM . TWISTING HIS WORDS to fit a lie and serve the flesh does NOT PLEASE HIM .
FAITH IN HIM , TRUST IN HIM , HIS WORDS and obediance unto HIM , DOES PLEASE HIM .
so i leave us with this reminder.
Men will do as men will do and love as men do love
BUT SHEEP will do as JESUS bids them DO and LOVE THE WORDS OF TRUTH .